Islam - what do you think?

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“Islam is not a religion, nor is it a cult. In its fullest form, it is a complete, total, 100% system of life.

Islam has religious, legal, political, economic, social, and military components. The religious component is a beard for all of the other components.

Islamization begins when there are sufficient Muslims in a country to agitate for their religious privileges.

When politically correct, tolerant, and culturally diverse societies agree to Muslim demands for their religious privileges, some of the other components tend to creep in as well.

Here’s how it works.

As long as the Muslim population remains around or under 2% in any given country, they will be for the most part be regarded as a peace-loving minority, and not as a threat to other citizens. This is the case in:

United States—Muslim 0.6%
Australia—Muslim 1.5%
Canada—Muslim 1.9%
China—Muslim 1.8%
Italy—Muslim 1.5%
Norway—Muslim 1.8%

At 2% to 5%, they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups, often with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs. This is happening in:

Denmark—Muslim 2%
Germany—Muslim 3.7%
United Kingdom—Muslim 2.7%
Spain—Muslim 4%
Thailand—Muslim 4.6%

From 5% on, they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. For example, they will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature halal on their shelves—along with threats for failure to comply. This is occurring in:

France—Muslim 8%
Philippines—Muslim 5%
Sweden—Muslim 5%
Switzerland—Muslim 4.3%
The Netherlands—Muslim 5.5%
Trinidad & Tobago—Muslim 5.8%

At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves (within their ghettos) under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islamists is to establish Sharia law over the entire world.

When Muslims approach 10% of the population, they tend to increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions. In Paris , we are already seeing car-burnings. Any non-Muslim action offends Islam, and results in uprisings and threats, such as in Amsterdam , with opposition to Mohammed cartoons and films about Islam. Such tensions are seen daily, particularly in Muslim sections, in:

Guyana—Muslim 10%
India—Muslim 13.4%
Israel—Muslim 16%
Kenya—Muslim 10%
Russia—Muslim 15%

After reaching 20%, nations can expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings, and the burnings of Christian churches and Jewish synagogues, such as in:

Ethiopia—Muslim 32.8%

At 40%, nations experience widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks, and ongoing militia warfare, such as in:

Bosnia—Muslim 40%
Chad—Muslim 53.1%
Lebanon—Muslim 59.7%

From 60%, nations experience unfettered persecution of non-believers of all other religions (including non-conforming Muslims), sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon, and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels, such as in:

Albania—Muslim 70%
Malaysia—Muslim 60.4%
Qatar—Muslim 77.5%
Sudan—Muslim 70%

After 80%, expect daily intimidation and violent jihad, some State-run ethnic cleansing, and even some genocide, as these nations drive out the infidels, and move toward 100% Muslim, such as has been experienced and in some ways is on-going in:

Bangladesh—Muslim 83%
Egypt—Muslim 90%
Gaza—Muslim 98.7%
Indonesia—Muslim 86.1%
Iran—Muslim 98%
Iraq—Muslim 97%
Jordan—Muslim 92%
Morocco—Muslim 98.7%
Pakistan—Muslim 97%
Palestine—Muslim 99%
Syria—Muslim 90%
Tajikistan—Muslim 90%
Turkey—Muslim 99.8%
United Arab Emirates—Muslim 96%

100% will usher in the peace of ‘Dar-es-Salaam’—the Islamic House of Peace. Here there’s supposed to be peace, because everybody is a Muslim, the Madrasses are the only schools, and the Koran is the only word, such as in:

Afghanistan—Muslim 100%
Saudi Arabia—Muslim 100%
Somalia—Muslim 100%
Yemen—Muslim 100%

Unfortunately, peace is never achieved, as in these 100% states the most radical Muslims intimidate and spew hatred, and satisfy their blood lust by killing less radical Muslims, for a variety of reasons.

‘Before I was nine I had learned the basic canon of Arab life. It was me against my brother; me and my brother against our father; my family against my cousins and the clan; the clan against the tribe; the tribe against the world, and all of us against the infidel. —Leon Uris, ‘The Haj’

It is important to understand that in some countries, with well under 100% Muslim populations, such as France, the minority Muslim populations live in ghettos, within which they are 100% Muslim, and within which they live by Sharia Law. The national police do not even enter these ghettos. There are no national courts, nor schools, nor non-Muslim religious facilities. In such situations, Muslims do not integrate into the community at large. The children attend madrasses. They learn only the Koran. To even associate with an infidel is a crime punishable with death. Therefore, in some areas of certain nations, Muslim Imams and extremists exercise more power than the national average would indicate.

Today’s 1.5 billion Muslims make up 22% of the world’s population. But their birth rates dwarf the birth rates of Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, Jews, and all other believers. Muslims will exceed 50% of the world’s population by the end of this century.

Adapted from Dr. Peter Hammond’s book: Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat

Here is some serious reading for serious thinkers.
Now that you know, what will we do with this knowledge? “

Its better to stay silent and look a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt

- Mark Twain

No pessimist ever discovered the secrets of the stars, or sailed to an unchartered land,or opened a new heaven to the human spirit

- Helen Keller

 

Just to be clear, I received this in an email and decided to post it here to see what others thought.

The words above are a quote, not my thoughts.

Its better to stay silent and look a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt

- Mark Twain

No pessimist ever discovered the secrets of the stars, or sailed to an unchartered land,or opened a new heaven to the human spirit

- Helen Keller

 

If they don’t want to assimilate to my country, I don’t want them here. I would hope you people would feel the same and don’t turn out like England.

"A star that shines twice as bright burns twice as fast." - In memory of Greg Moore

Racinfarmer will be signing autographs at the mall from 3 to 5.

I'll put a bullet in your ass 'cuz its the American way!

 

If I had my way all religions would be outed for what they are, ridiculous anachronisms that have no place in a modern intelligent society….. but that’s just me…..

Cliff Manley

ahhh "consistency" the holy grail of golf....

 

Yeah, I sure am glad I’m Christian. Christians have a solid history of peace and kindness to everyone. (cough cough)

Oh what short memories we have. Christians have also had their fair share of holy wars, ethnic cleansing, discrimination of women, and all manner of attrocities throughout the ages.

The problem is not Islam, or Christianity. It is humans. We can’t seem to exist in a place where some people are different to others. Christians, Jews and Muslims all effectively worship the same God, and yet millions have died as a result of one brand of religion calling him “God”, while the other calls him “Allah”.

If there is a god, he is going to be furious at the amount of barbaric bullshit claimed to have been done in his name.

 

If there is a god and I doubt it, I’d have to agree that he’d be outraged at the death initiated in the name of christainity – hypocrits the lot!

In Australia Styles, there are towns/cities that do not put up xmas decorations or have dear old santa in the shops at xmas for fear of upsetting new settlers to our country. I’m 4th generation and glad that my grandies and father have passed so they don’t have to see what our country is becoming.

Political Correctness is doctrine fostered by a delusional minority and by the media, which holds forth the proposition it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.

'If you can read this, thank a teacher, and since it's in English,

 

If I had my way all religions would be outed for what they are, ridiculous anachronisms that have no place in a modern intelligent society….. but that’s just me…..

Cliff Manley

ahhh “consistency” the holy grail of golf….

And me!

Political Correctness is doctrine fostered by a delusional minority and by the media, which holds forth the proposition it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.

'If you can read this, thank a teacher, and since it's in English,

 

If they don’t want to assimilate to my country, I don’t want them here. I would hope you people would feel the same and don’t turn out like England.

“A star that shines twice as bright burns twice as fast.” – In memory of Greg Moore

Racinfarmer will be signing autographs at the mall from 3 to 5.

majority of us probably do feel the same but we have no say

Political Correctness is doctrine fostered by a delusional minority and by the media, which holds forth the proposition it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.

'If you can read this, thank a teacher, and since it's in English,

 

I won’t ever pre judge someone on their religious belief. But i have to say fanatics of any denomination are the real roblem. christian, muslim whatever. my biggest gripe with religion is that it seems to me the people who preach it (or force it upon you) the strongest are usually the most disgracefully hypocritical examples.

I’m not a religious person, but i do think i’m a decent human being, and i haven’t needed a representative of god to teach me how to do that.
My grandad used to say “it doesn’t cost you anything to be polite”. thats good enough for me.

Sorry if this got off track and didn’t relate to the initial post lads.

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I’m not a religious person, but i do think i’m a decent human being, and i haven’t needed a representative of god to teach me how to do that.

Well said.

 

I won’t ever pre judge someone on their religious belief. But i have to say fanatics of any denomination are the real roblem. christian, muslim whatever. my biggest gripe with religion is that it seems to me the people who preach it (or force it upon you) the strongest are usually the most disgracefully hypocritical examples.

I’m not a religious person, but i do think i’m a decent human being, and i haven’t needed a representative of god to teach me how to do that.
My grandad used to say “it doesn’t cost you anything to be polite”. thats good enough for me.

Sorry if this got off track and didn’t relate to the initial post lads.

Those are my thoughts exactly.

As well as that, I know a lot of Muslim’s and (without wanting to sound patronsing) they are like you and I. I think it is probably a tiny percentage who are the extremists that the media portrays.

 

I like the cut of your Gib young Heno!

Being a practicing Catholic, I can understand why people who would bag religion, but as mentioned in this forum, its not the religion it’s the crzy people who do stuff in the name of their religion.

I’ve personally been involved and seen some pretty amazing charitable works done by both Catholic/ Budhist / Muslim volunteers who try and do the right thing. There are alot of really good people out there!

But there will always be nuts in any group [as I normally find out when I turn up for my regular 4bbb]

=)

 

Yeah, I sure am glad I’m Christian. Christians have a solid history of peace and kindness to everyone. (cough cough)

I think it’s been a few years since Christians have blown up trains; crashed planes into buildings; stoned women to death;beheaded people on Utube. Need I go on.
But of course not all Muslims do that. But not many seem to object.

 

boys, i’ve had experience with both muslim and christian (catholic) families who are very religious. I was with a catholic girl for 2 years (who’s mother was an overly religious person, almost to the point of being a fanatic), and was with the muslim girl for about 18 months. The irony of it was while the muslim family were very very religious and strong in their beliefs (and they didn’t really approve of their daughter dating someone who wasn’t of the same beliefs), i actually felt more comfortable in their company than the catholic girl, as they didn’t try to force their beliefs on me, whereas the catho girls mum did.

As a result I have learned to be tolerant of people who are different from me

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"We..Are..the navy blues...."

 

Well, this seems to have turned into a “all religions are stupid and bad”, “hey, I’m not religious and I’m still a good bloke” exercise.

Fair enough.

But a lot of people seem to take their values for granted without taking a moment to inspect where most of those values might have come from. No man is an island, we inherit most of our values from our family, from our community and the country in which we were born, and like it or not, for most Westerners those values were originally based on the teachings of that Jewish guy people talk about whenever they hit their thumb with a hammer. “Judge not, lest ye be judged”, “Do unto others as you would have them do to you” and so on. The people that founded our countries and wrote our constitutions and laws were Christian. yet still were careful to allow for religious freedom and diversity.

And just as an aside, there are plenty of Christians that are serious intellectuals and scientists, that understand the universe is millions of years old, and still find good reasons to trust in a personal God. (And who cringe when they see some of the ignorant stuff some churches / religious groups still spout…)

Reverse every natural instinct you have and do just the opposite of what you are inclined to do and you will probably come very close to having a perfect golf swing. - BEN HOGAN, POWER GOLF

 

I think it’s been a few years since Christians have blown up trains; crashed planes into buildings; stoned women to death;beheaded people on Utube. Need I go on.

I think the Catholics and Protestants of North Ireland may beg to differ.

I guess it depends on what you would consider “a while”. Of the two thousand years of Christianity, the last decade is barely what I would consider “a while”.

(Disclaimer: I am Catholic)

 

Muslims that cuase carnage are in the minority. There are fanatics in all religions but they dont always make the news. My Mother is an Irish Catholic and goes to church every week, but has never, ever made me go. I have met many Catholics who wouldnt dream of missing church for fear of what the neighbours would think rather than following their beliefs.

Styles original post is an interesting read but some of the facts are a little missleading ( I realise this was not Styles words or thoughts).

Having worked in the media for a number of years I know that any agressive act by a Muslim, individual or organisation, creates interest, and thats before 9/11. The fact is that the small percentage of Musilms have created much bad press about themsleves, but they want publicity and thats why they do it!

But according to the original post it would seem that if enough are in the same room at the same time, then world domination is just a short hop skip and a jump away!

The difference between golf and the government is that in
golf you can't improve your lie!

 

Same as all the other religions…..
Pffft.

Home on The Range

 

If they don’t want to assimilate to my country, I don’t want them here. I would hope you people would feel the same and don’t turn out like England.

“A star that shines twice as bright burns twice as fast.” – In memory of Greg Moore

Racinfarmer will be signing autographs at the mall from 3 to 5.

majority of us probably do feel the same but we have no say

Political Correctness is doctrine fostered by a delusional minority and by the media, which holds forth the proposition it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.

Impossible – it’s only an opinion, not a fact!

SNIOP

See, one of the problems we have in America right now is people Muslims are leaning on religion to get by doing anything they want. My cousin’s husband work’s at a meat processing plant that processes pork and chicken. A bunch of Muslims one day, out of the blue, decided to quit handling pork products. Not like handling them by hand, but if there was a pallet of pork products that needed to be moved, they wouldn’t even move it with a fork lift. They signed an agreement to handle pork products too. So now a lawsuit has going through and guess what, the Mooslims go their way, and they have certains times of the day the whole plant shuts down so they can play. If they fire them, they get sued again.

At least the Mexicans work hard and don’t complain.

"A star that shines twice as bright burns twice as fast." - In memory of Greg Moore

Racinfarmer will be signing autographs at the mall from 3 to 5.

I'll put a bullet in your ass 'cuz its the American way!

 

The way the article is worded is inflammatory to say the least. I guess there is always some tension when a new wave of immigration takes place. In Australia we had phases of Southern European migration, then immigrants from SE Asia, now we are seeing greater numbers from Africa and the Middle East. Every time some groups have pointed the finger and called them “un-Australian”.

You can’t expect or demand all new citizens to abandon their values and culture on arrival. Even if they are supposed to cherish Don Bradman.

Is there any evidence that Muslim immigrants cause more issues than others?

Reverse every natural instinct you have and do just the opposite of what you are inclined to do and you will probably come very close to having a perfect golf swing. - BEN HOGAN, POWER GOLF

 

all i would say this is highly sensitive…and potential to be explosive

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Square is Good ? Sure is, if it's the right stick !
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Religion is a mind virus with many strains exhibiting many different symptoms. Some are quite benign and relatively harmless but beware of the more virulent kind. Serious infections of those strains can greatly effect the human mind resulting in grossly anti social behaviour. Infection is only known to occur through close contact with existing carriers. A good dose of cynicism has been found to be an effective barrier to infection.

As far as I'm concerned, too much golf is just barely enough!

 

Religion is a mind virus with many strains exhibiting many different symptoms. Some are quite benign and relatively harmless but beware of the more virulent kind. Serious infections of those strains can greatly effect the human mind resulting in grossly anti social behaviour. Infection is only known to occur through close contact with existing carriers. A good dose of cynicism has been found to be an effective barrier to infection.

As far as I’m concerned, too much golf is just barely enough!

Shove it…

"A star that shines twice as bright burns twice as fast." - In memory of Greg Moore

Racinfarmer will be signing autographs at the mall from 3 to 5.

I'll put a bullet in your ass 'cuz its the American way!

 

Nothing like some intelligent comment!

The difference between golf and the government is that in
golf you can't improve your lie!

 

I’m not a religious person and I hate it when labels are placed on any group – race, religion, political views, sexual preference, etc. I treat people the way I would like to be treated. If they treat me just as well, I respect them. If they think they are above me in any way or treat me with a lack of respect, then I tend not to think too highly of them.
We are all human beings and I believe we all should have the same rights as each other, no matter what choices we make in life. Saying that, I am not such a huge fan of people shoving their beliefs in my face and trying to force them upon me.
Going off track a little here, but I had to giggle to myself a few weeks ago when Elen Degeneres married Portia Derossi. It was in all the magazines as a “Gay Wedding.” Why? If a male and female get married, its just a wedding… It’s not called a “Straight Wedding” so why is it different with two women?
The media honestly turn things into such a big fuss sometimes when I don’t think it is needed.

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