When I saw that 100 Plus people had rioted at Parramatta hospital after their suspected armed robber mate was shot , it was obvious who the culprits were. Just why the Muslims should feel the need to take it out on the hospital rather than Armaguard for example puzzled me for a moment until I realised that Armaguard staff may decide to actually defend themselves.
To what extent their shared knowledge of the deceased man’s actions makes them accomplices I can’t say but all those present were no doubt aware of what had transpired.
When they’re not plotting to blow us up they’re trying to rob us blind.

Having worked as an armed guard, I was surprised to hear these guys had actually shot a robber. It’s a last resort actually pulling your weapon, and we were taught that unless there was the risk of death to an innocent then it never happens…. of course if someone pointed a gun at me or one of my mates, then I’d shoot…

Just why the Muslims should feel the need to take it out on the hospital rather than Armaguard for example puzzled me

All ill-informed stereotypes asside, I doubt the guy’s religion has anything to do with this.

Was the Armaguard Catholic or Protestant? This is important information, otherwise I have no idea how I am supposed to judge him!

When I saw that 100 Plus people had rioted at Parramatta hospital after their suspected armed robber mate was shot , it was obvious who the culprits were. Just why the Muslims should feel the need to take it out on the hospital rather than Armaguard for example puzzled me for a moment until I realised that Armaguard staff may decide to actually defend themselves.
To what extent their shared knowledge of the deceased man’s actions makes them accomplices I can’t say but all those present were no doubt aware of what had transpired.
When they’re not plotting to blow us up they’re trying to rob us blind.

Mate that post wreaks of racial overtones… I feel sorry for the muslims when they are all chucked in together as “terrorists” because of a few bad eggs..

i’m not to sure there’s anything really wrong with generalising by race or religion. Its something that certain groups share as a common experience and therefore reason tells us a percentage are likely to be quite simialr for all intents and purposes.

How big is that though? I wonder the of muslims in Australia who are terrorists and bank robbers and how it is fair to brush the rest of the muslim population with that same brush.

When I saw that 100 Plus people had rioted at Parramatta hospital after their suspected armed robber mate was shot , it was obvious who the culprits were. Just why the Muslims should feel the need to take it out on the hospital rather than Armaguard for example puzzled me for a moment until I realised that Armaguard staff may decide to actually defend themselves.
To what extent their shared knowledge of the deceased man’s actions makes them accomplices I can’t say but all those present were no doubt aware of what had transpired.
When they’re not plotting to blow us up they’re trying to rob us blind.

Mate that post wreaks of racial overtones… I feel sorry for the muslims when they are all chucked in together as “terrorists” because of a few bad eggs..

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But people here are certainly quick to generalize Americans…

too quick

We do not generalise Americans….we generalise yanks ; )

Speaking of which we went out to dinner last night and there was one in the restaurant (and only one) and that is all we could hear.

too quick

i think i hear violins :P

you seppos are tough enough to take it, if we didn’t pay you out we would have to admit how similar we are to you

too quick

i think i hear violins :P

you seppos are tough enough to take it, if we didn’t pay you out we would have to admit how similar we are to you

what?

im an aussie

doesnt make it not racist just cos they are anglo

I only descriminate against yanks with hot missuses and dodge vipers in the garage.. but I think thats out of jealousy than bigotry.

No doubt Simonsez was looking to have his supporters jump on his bigotry bandwagon and he only got 2 passengers – glad to see that the majority of ISG members are not so small minded.
By the way, who says the guy was a muslim anyway? Was that reported or only an asssumption SS (an appropriate identifier) was so quick to draw to enable him to ventilate his prejudice against muslims.

I like to think we pick on Americans (and Kiwis for that matter) like one would pick on their own brother. It can get serious, but in the end it is lighthearted digs within a long-standing, solid relationship that can handle both giving it, and taking it. And for the ill-informed – being ‘american’ or a ‘kiwi’ is neither a race nor a religion.

Attacks aimed at muslims/blacks/asians (or any racial or religious group) is an entirely different issue if you ask me.

I like to think we pick on Americans (and Kiwis for that matter) like one would pick on their own brother. It can get serious, but in the end it is lighthearted digs within a long-standing, solid relationship that can handle both giving it, and taking it. And for the ill-informed – being ‘american’ or a ‘kiwi’ is neither a race nor a religion.

Attacks aimed at muslims/blacks/asians (or any racial or religious group) is an entirely different issue if you ask me.

those Poms on the other hand that is true hate ;)

i disagree that ‘american’ is not a distinct race

you are talking about phenotypes (or something), ie anglo, asian etc

race is both considering physical and social characteristics. americans on the whole look different to australians (you can pick them to some extent) and certainly have a totally different set of values based around the same broad principles

its like saying japanese and chinese are the same, because they are asian, which is obviously false

the only issue is the attacks aimed at ‘muslims/blacks/asians’ are aimed at minority groups, and they have to put up with a whole lot more of that shit so it is less cool

No doubt Simonsez was looking to have his supporters jump on his bigotry bandwagon and he only got 2 passengers – glad to see that the majority of ISG members are not so small minded.
By the way, who says the guy was a muslim anyway? Was that reported or only an asssumption SS (an appropriate identifier) was so quick to draw to enable him to ventilate his prejudice against muslims.

I frankly couldn’t give a damn about people “jumping on my bandwagon” and the fact that the dead person’s name was Khaled Dib and 100 people turned up to protest at the hospital is a 100% guarantee that they were (Wahhabi branch) Muslims. Not nearly a matter of being “small minded” , but if you are unaware of the plans that the radical Muslims would seem to have in place then you really need to be paying more attention .
That said,it’s not a matter of racism so much as being opposed to the behaviour of those who set themselves above the law of Australia relying instead on the law of the Koran to determine their beliefs and actions. To the extent that those beliefs and actions run counter to the best interests of Australia , then certainly I am prejudiced against these people.

i disagree that ‘american’ is not a distinct race

And you’d be wrong.

There is no way to ‘pick’ an American. There may very well be a way to pick Ango-Americans, or African-Americans, or Hispanic-Americans.. but that would be based on their race, not their continent. The the general term ‘american’ simply does not fit a racial classification.

name a racial group then henno. no group is ‘isolated’

japanese are made up of the native people and the immigrants from several thousand years ago

chinese range from arab to mongol to han

africans range between sudanese and african americans

i think you can pick an anglo american from an anglo australian part of the time

i think you can pick an african american from a south african part of the time

i think you can pick a korean from a japanese part of the time

and like i said, it is not only physical. race is a social construct

I frankly couldn’t give a damn about people “jumping on my bandwagon” and the fact that the dead person’s name was Khaled Dib and 100 people turned up to protest at the hospital is a 100% guarantee that they were (Wahhabi branch) Muslims.

By that logic, I must surely be a member of the IRA. I have pale sking, an Irish name, I have a flock of people who would support me who also have irish names, and I wear a crucifix around my neck. Surely I am a catholic rebel who wants nothing more than the blood of the innocent.

Not nearly a matter of being “small minded” , but if you are unaware of the plans that the radical Muslims would seem to have in place then you really need to be paying more attention .

You are the only ignorant fool talking about the plans of radical muslims. I doubt some guy called Khaled getting shot by a low-level security guard was part of the Muslim Grand Master Plan. This guy may very well be a criminal, and a muslim, but that does not mean they all are. He might also just be a dumb fool who got his arse shot.

Stop trying to draw conclusions based on unrelated events and unrelated issues.

then certainly I am prejudiced against these people.

Well at least there is something we can agree on.

No doubt Simonsez was looking to have his supporters jump on his bigotry bandwagon and he only got 2 passengers – glad to see that the majority of ISG members are not so small minded.
By the way, who says the guy was a muslim anyway? Was that reported or only an asssumption SS (an appropriate identifier) was so quick to draw to enable him to ventilate his prejudice against muslims.

I frankly couldn’t give a damn about people “jumping on my bandwagon” and the fact that the dead person’s name was Khaled Dib and 100 people turned up to protest at the hospital is a 100% guarantee that they were (Wahhabi branch) Muslims. Not nearly a matter of being “small minded” , but if you are unaware of the plans that the radical Muslims would seem to have in place then you really need to be paying more attention .
That said,it’s not a matter of racism so much as being opposed to the behaviour of those who set themselves above the law of Australia relying instead on the law of the Koran to determine their beliefs and actions. To the extent that those beliefs and actions run counter to the best interests of Australia , then certainly I am prejudiced against these people.

name a racial group then henno. no group is ‘isolated’

japanese are made up of the native people and the immigrants from several thousand years ago

chinese range from arab to mongol to han

africans range between sudanese and african americans

I think you and I are somewhat arguing the same thing here. Isolating a group based on race is flawed from the start.

Being American is very different to being a Jew, or a Muslim, or asian. Differences in social conditions can be quite large, I agree there. Pointing out differences based on religion or skin colour is a waste of time.

So I think we agree there.

haha i got called a bigot for no reason.

its quite funny the man is prepared to judge me on one comment, that wasn’t particularly bigotted, yet call me a bigot because he assumes i have judged without knowing.

I have read and re-read the thread. Who called you a bigot?

Clearly this has got you all worked up – you were stewing on it for 2 hours before posting again :)