lets try and make a coppers life easier over christmas

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i am sick of seeing and reading this carnage and death on our roads of late.

this time of year we should be thinking how we going to spend our christmas’s with loved ones and having a good time over christmas

I am certain every copper in australia would love to see a toll free year , no one getting booked for drink driving or attending a motor vechile accident and having to knock on a door to say a loved one has been killed

Please do ourselves a favour slow down give ya self plenty of time to stop and dont speed or drink drive or drive with drugs in ya system

I as a professional driver, i have to face a 0.00 reading all year round doesnt matter what time of year it is

how about we all make it 0.00 blood alcahol level and a 0.00 reading for drugs as well

lets show the rest of the world Australia has a zero tolerence for alcahol and drugs over the chrismas period

I dont mean dont stop drinking and having a good time.. just do the right thing and not take control of a motor vechile even if it means 100 buck taxi ride if it means you will wake up the next day

I am sure all the coppers in australia dont want to be giving us a hard time so lets not help them to give us a hard time

this time of year i really hate being on the road dodging careless idiots

We all make mistakes but lets not make them costly

lets give the coppers something to celebrate and lets aim for a zero road toll this year

please what ever you guys are doing over christmas please make it a safe and happy christmas and may the christmas golf be kind to ya

mery christmas and a safe and happy new year ladies and gents

 

All the education in the world isn’t going to stop idiots and the foolish from making mistakes. Meanwhile we have laws that say it’s ok to drink, just be under .05 and cars that can clock 200+kmph. So when a cop goes on telly pleading for people to do the right thing, I just shrug my shoulders.

 

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lets have the same good ethos 365 days of the year not just at xmas, trying to change ones habit be they good or bad for s short peroid of time over xmas doesnt work

I’m a drug and alcohol counselor and it’s impossible to try and changes ones habits because its xmas

I urge poeple to just be smarter – plan ahead if you plan ahead your way home then youre going to be ok

also one other tip – dont allowe others to drive if they are intoxictaed – even if it means making a bit of scene and challenging a mate – I copped a left hook from a mate years ago because I took his keys and wouldnt give them back!

we are still best mates!!

be pro-active instead of re-active

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They need to seriously punish offenders instead of letting everyone off with a slap on the wrist. I watch the police shows on tv and just shake my head after some lamp noodle goes on a high speed chase and walks away with a suspended sentence!!! They then plaster it all over the screen so all the hoons can clearly see that u can just about do anything and u wont go to jail.
I have no issues with 0.05 as America have 0.08 and there is no issue with people driving under 0.05 but the drunk drivers and repeat drunk drivers need to be dealt with.

Definition of insanity…thinking that u can be a good parent and decrease ur handicap at the same time!

 

....and the ambos, nurses, doctors and others that have to also deal with the aftermath. +1

 

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I’m gathering this post was to the OP Madam. Timing is everything :)

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They need to seriously punish offenders instead of letting everyone off with a slap on the wrist. I watch the police shows on tv and just shake my head after some lamp noodle goes on a high speed chase and walks away with a suspended sentence!!! They then plaster it all over the screen so all the hoons can clearly see that u can just about do anything and u wont go to jail.
I have no issues with 0.05 as America have 0.08 and there is no issue with people driving under 0.05 but the drunk drivers and repeat drunk drivers need to be dealt with.

Definition of insanity…thinking that u can be a good parent and decrease ur handicap at the same time!

please dont watch those shows – they are staged!!

alos losing your licence and potentially your job isnt a slap on the wrist

plus I think we look at it from the wrong angle – YOU COULD KILL SOMEONE!!

just plan ahead….make a simple plan before you go out and people need to stop being tight arse and pay for a cab!

people will pay 10 dolars for one beer yet wont pay $12 for taxi home

go figure….

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cant put brains in a monument

any one else heading home to get married??

 

nup!!

I have long thought the issue is our drinking age of 18 is too close to driving ageof 17 – they overlap too closely for mine.

they need to be sperated and I suggest move the drinking age up smidgen

In NZ they are trialing in some areas that you can drink inside pubs and bars based on 18 years of age

But you cant buy take away untill you are 20 – its being trialed

USA has 21 in many states – hmm

from physical point of view the brain really shouldnt be exsposed to alcohol – its actually a very toxic substance, the physical brain doesnt stop growing untill about 25

Cynics will say yep young people will drink anyways regardless of what age you set and this is true but you would certainly limit or decrease some developing brains to alcohol

the interesting thing to consider is that a bloke at 17 years 364 days cant drink but a person of 18 years 0 days can??? go figure

I suggest a moving of the goal posts is needed if we are too decrease the carnage…

or in radical move once you get your licence I think zero alcohol reading for the first 3 years – I think its 2 at the moment and its 0.2….lets make it 0.0 for the first 4 years of driving

also I think public transport is an issue – busses and trains should be free after 9pm….if we are fair dinkum about reducing the carnage

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Tip.

Get a photo of your family or partner

Put it in your car somewhere -sun visor a good spot

Every time you get in your you’re reminded that its not about you!

Trust me it works!

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the interesting thing to consider is that a bloke at 17 years 364 days cant drink but a person of 18 years 0 days can??? go figure

I’m not sure why that is interesting. Even if the drinking age is 25 – it would be illegal to drink at 24 & 364 days but legal at 25 & 0 days – Go figure.

or in radical move once you get your licence I think zero alcohol reading for the first 3 years – I think its 2 at the moment and its 0.2….lets make it 0.0 for the first 4 years of driving

Yes that is far too radical in my opinion. I think we just have to accept that the idiots will be idiots no matter what rules or regulations we put in place. The people driving under the influence aren’t going to stop breaking the law, just because you make the law they were already breaking stricter…

A few things that I like and would like to see for our young provisional drivers.

- Restrictions on power output of the car they are allowed to drive (already in place, but would like to see It even stricter)

- Both Learners, Red and Green provisional drivers speed restrictions removed – It’s doing more harm then good having them creep along at 80 kmph in 110 zones. Most motorway accidents are a result of poor merging and having these slow drivers is only adding to that.

- BAC limit of 0.00 for Red Provisional and 0.02 Green (how it used to be) – Like many things, speeding included, having visible deterrents is a better solution than simply tacking on more and more rules and regulations. Ideally I’d like to see a lot more RBT’s as a deterrent.

also I think public transport is an issue – busses and trains should be free after 9pm….if we are fair dinkum about reducing the carnage

You are on the right path with this one, although having them free of charge is a bit unrealistic.. Sydney public transport already runs at a loss so giving out freebies isn’t going to fix that. However….. We certainly need a LOT more available public transport at those times of night.

 

There is this thing called “Personal responsibility.” Moving age limits up/down, changing blood alcohol content numbers up or down, Licence provisions etc. they may have their place, but when it comes down to it, people just need to take responsibility for their own actions.

It wasn’t too long ago that I was 18 and thought I owned the joint, but my mates and I had one rule – you drive, you don’t touch a drop of grog. It’s not that hard. Driving is a privellige, not a right. If you go out and have a drink then are stupid enough to drive, be prepared to pay the consequences.

We could also organise a few tours of the morgue for those who think they are bulletproof – might make a few people think twice if they see some of the mangled wrecks that end up there.

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busses and trains should be free after 9pm….if we are fair dinkum about reducing the carnage

You could make it free 24×7. It’s still not going to cut the road toll. People have cars for the convenience and because they don’t have any PT near by.

If we are fair dinkum, something has to be done about the laws. Letting repeat offenders off with suspended sentences and/or back on the roads is asking for trouble.

 

Id like to see drinking moved out to 21.

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Can’t expect the government to make laws to protect ourselves from ourselves.
Do we really want the government having an even larger say in the way we run our own lives in this country? (nanny state?)
There’s always going to be idiots, never going to get road toll to zero. (Check out this tool http://news.ninemsn.com.au/... )
The road toll is way less than it was 20 years ago, I reckon to get it any lower we’d need to spend billions.
It’s the people who die because of other’s stupid actions I feel for. ( http://www.theage.com.au/vi... )
(driver on the wrong side of the freeway killed a car full of people doing the right thing)

 
busses and trains should be free after 9pm….if we are fair dinkum about reducing the carnage

You could make it free 24×7. It’s still not going to cut the road toll. People have cars for the convenience and because they don’t have any PT near by.

If we are fair dinkum, something has to be done about the laws. Letting repeat offenders off with suspended sentences and/or back on the roads is asking for trouble.

Its not just repeat offenders that kill people on the roads…

17-25 year olds who binge drink are statistically far more likely to.kill you than a heavy drinker in his late 30’s early 40’s

THE 17 year old will speed while intoxicated – the 40 year old will try take the back way home!

Its why 17-25 male bracket is highest rate of deaths on our roads

Golf is only a game…Yeah right who are you kidding?

 

Id like to see drinking moved out to 21.

PING NUT

Agree …Name a negative for that? Only positives

Golf is only a game…Yeah right who are you kidding?

 

Id like to see drinking moved out to 21.

PING NUT

Agree …Name a negative for that? Only positives

We make a living by what we get, we make a life by what we give. Winston Churchill

Why not 24…. why not 30…. old enough to vote but not drink alcohol?

There’ll always be idiots, young or old. Part of growing up and becoming an adult is the learning curve of “cause and effect”. An 18 year old is more than grown up enough to understand the effects and resulting damage of car accident.

Like the gun issue in the states, the law and “rules” will have no impact on the “lowest common denominator”, the people who care naught for them anyhow.

People need to understand more and make their own decisions and accept what happens if they get it wrong. I think more driver education is a key element. I’ve always thought a bit of a tour of a trauma ward is an excellent start. Understand the results of getting it wrong. Maybe a session given by a parent of a teenager/young adult who had been killed, or killed others by driving stupidity.

I’m with Coverdriver… it’s a privaledge, not a right.

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Id like to see drinking moved out to 21.

PING NUT

Agree …Name a negative for that? Only positives

We make a living by what we get, we make a life by what we give. Winston Churchill

Why not 24…. why not 30…. old enough to vote but not drink alcohol?

There’ll always be idiots, young or old. Part of growing up and becoming an adult is the learning curve of “cause and effect”. An 18 year old is more than grown up enough to understand the effects and resulting damage of car accident.

Like the gun issue in the states, the law and “rules” will have no impact on the “lowest common denominator”, the people who care naught for them anyhow.

People need to understand more and make their own decisions and accept what happens if they get it wrong. I think more driver education is a key element. I’ve always thought a bit of a tour of a trauma ward is an excellent start. Understand the results of getting it wrong. Maybe a session given by a parent of a teenager/young adult who had been killed, or killed others by driving stupidity.

I’m with Coverdriver… it’s a privaledge, not a right.

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Brain development from 18 to.21 is huge..

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Id like to see drinking moved out to 21.

PING NUT

With respect to this topic – In my experience, most DUI’s occur with the older generation.

The 17-25 year olds killing themselves are resultant more so from reckless driving and not so much DUI’s. Not saying there aren’t kids driving around drunk, but I don’t think increasing the drinking age is actually addressing the issue.

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