The dj’s were 2 weeks into a new job!

They are young! What you’ve never made a mistake when young?

The nurse was experienced – radio management are experienced

So they broke some law thats probably broken by every radio station in the land

No one is to blame! Stop blaming! The world is becoming a blame one!

Sometimes its no ones fault. Its sad yes but blaming anyone isnt useful.

I couldn’t find a picture of a high horse, so here is one of a rocking horse instead….

As the djs have said they never thought they would get past first base

That was just an excuse to offset any blame. If they really felt that way, they should have hung up. And with all the tears, you’d think THEY were the victims.

Let’s see what the suicide note says. There’s more to this story to come out.

In a way they are

Career prospects is no very thin.

They will need trauma counseling and PST (post trauma) is likely

News this morning, the nurse left a note for her family, no details as yet.

They will need trauma counseling and PST (post trauma) is likely

the only people who need counseling are the relatives of the nurse. The 2 young dj’s will go onto other things and get over it very quickly.

Massive call that!

zenstb

there is more the the 2 dj’s in this

the 2djs was just carrying out what their employer wished them to do

if your boss tells you a directive to carry out as part of your job are you going to tell them go jump in the lake or would you carry out the job they have directed you 2 do?

these djs carried out a directive by their employer in which their producers gave it the all thumbs up

the djs did their job

yes the dj’s need some accountability but not the entire blame what about the ceo of Austereo? the producers?

the djs are coping the full blame for carrying out a directive by their employer

its not just the dj’s at fault here

The dj’s were 2 weeks into a new job!

They are young! What you’ve never made a mistake when young?

The nurse was experienced – radio management are experienced

So they broke some law thats probably broken by every radio station in the land

No one is to blame! Stop blaming! The world is becoming a blame one!

Sometimes its no ones fault. Its sad yes but blaming anyone isnt useful.

We make a living by what we get, we make a life by what we give. Winston Churchill

Well said Dave!

The whole thing is about a Royal and a morning sickness right? Not like someone was on their death bed seriously ill in the hospital FFS.

I can’t believe all this BS over a phone call, damn.

It’s not like that guy in Brissie that threw his club and removed half his mates brain! That’s a direct stupid action of an individual. This is a series of events by the media that is taken up by the media and used to sell us, we seem to have bought it two fold.

I blame,,,, oops, can’t say that.

The problem being what they did is a criminal offence in both UK and Australia, irrespective of the outcome.

The law is an ass. :)

There’s breaking the law, and then there’s being a criminal. Doing 60 in a 50 zone is against the law, (and about $280, pfft) but doing 120 is bloody dangerous.

Everyone will have an opinion on which one they did, but if it was ‘criminal’ then that’s why we have courts to decide.

The Royal Family, pop stars, movie stars etc get this sort of attention, it comes with the job, it’s us punters that support the whole idea by buying into it all. The media always wins out, part of their game.

The DJ’s made a prank call, no nude photos, drug scandals, stories of sexual perversion, just pretended to be Royals. They cop it, media wins out. Girl dies, media wins. The losers are the little people in the mix, individuals and families, the empires win out.

The Royals are fine too, get more publicity, which they need, so that empire wins out too.

I agree with zenstb
By law they are not going to suffer any serious consequences, so I would have preferred this was one of their own family members then they would be feeling as accountable as they should.

It’s going to be funny if the prank call had nothing to do with her death. Just think it’s suspicious that there might be other things at play here.

Wait and see…

It’s going to be funny if the prank call had nothing to do with her death. Just think it’s suspicious that there might be other things at play here.

Wait and see…

We probably wont hear, not interesting if no finger to be pointed.

The other thing is, if someone is at the point of suicide, why would you believe what they write in a letter is of sound mind?

Dave might know more about this, I’m just guessing.

Geez, I leave notes all over the house.

Pay this bill …..........
the latest batch of golf dates and tee times ….......
Remember to ring the old man …..
Add mangoes to the shopping list ….. etc, etc…

It’d probably take em a friggin week to sift through all the notes at my place …....

One of them will be groomed to be the next John Laws, Alan Jones.

The law is an ass. :)

There’s breaking the law, and then there’s being a criminal. Doing 60 in a 50 zone is against the law, (and about $280, pfft) but doing 120 is bloody dangerous.

Everyone will have an opinion on which one they did, but if it was ‘criminal’ then that’s why we have courts to decide.

The Royal Family, pop stars, movie stars etc get this sort of attention, it comes with the job, it’s us punters that support the whole idea by buying into it all. The media always wins out, part of their game.

The DJ’s made a prank call, no nude photos, drug scandals, stories of sexual perversion, just pretended to be Royals. They cop it, media wins out. Girl dies, media wins. The losers are the little people in the mix, individuals and families, the empires win out.

The Royals are fine too, get more publicity, which they need, so that empire wins out too.

What is this golf game you talk of?

Stink makes a fantastic point. Normally don’t agree with him but have o in this case.

what if it is all the work of rival corporate media, trying to out do the other, bringing all of this to the boil over and over to ensure that one has got it over the other….........

what if two weeks ago, there was a meeting of the Corporate Media executive in Great Britain, and it was discussed how are they going to top this royal gag now going global. What if someone suggested, “hey what if the nurse who took the call died, and it looked like a suicide?” Of course this would never happen…....

and the media in GB never tapped phones, are hacked into voicemails to build/enhance a story either…..........

Dave,
I think the suicide isn’t the issue at hand. Where I don’t show empathy towards DJ’s is on principles. If they have any Morals, respect or any ethics you would never call a hospital for a prank period. Then this would have never happened in the first place. It may not have prevented what happen long term with the person taking their own life. Although as I said this isn’t the point.
The point is they should never prank call any hospital period.

Now the Dj’s are played out as good samaritans because they are donating money to the family. What a joke that is.
They aren’t being held accountable for their actions. They still breached Australian laws and ethics. If they were any decent human been having morals and respect they would have never had made the prank call to the hospital.

I don’t hold them accountable for the suicide, They are accountable for breaching the Australian law and ethics in commercial media. They should be punished for action . They know the difference between what is right and wrong, they chose to ignore what is right, they knew it was morally ad ethically wrong. They ignored that and did it anyway. I have no empathy for them we all have a choice from right and wrong, they made their choice and with that there is consequences.

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Do the crime do the time?

This whole thing is a sad sad joke.

No winners except as Stink says the media and the moral crusaders venting on all things wrong with society.

This was a nothing story and a bit of fun until this troubled lady decided to kill herself. She decided, no one else.

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I agree with zenstb
By law they are not going to suffer any serious consequences, so I would have preferred this was one of their own family members then they would be feeling as accountable as they should.

What a horrible thing to say. Far worse then the actual call that was made.

I’ve seen a lot of hypocritical comments on this over the last few days. So many keyboard warriors demanding these DJ’s be strung up, whipped and suffer any form of horrific punishment that the masses see fit, despite zero evidence linking their actions to the suicide of the nurse.

As (I think it was Dave_1) said, there is only one person to blame here. And that is the nurse, who decided to take her own life. The only exception to that would be if there was some form of bullying involved, which there wasn’t.

What sort of world do we live in where we class “how are you going” as bullying.

It’s going to be funny if the prank call had nothing to do with her death. Just think it’s suspicious that there might be other things at play here.

Wait and see…

Likely that’s what the case will be. Problem is the damage has already been done to these DJ’s careers.

sucicides happen every day – we just never hear about them!

remember in the 15-25 bracket it kills as many people as road deaths..and I would argue many road deaths where olice find n skid marks are probabaly suicides (trust me it hapens with young males who drive at 170 knowing they will crash and kill themsleves)

They are rarely reported – and for family reason and greeving I understand that

But we dont hear hundred of other people balming the kid that bullied them at schools, or the priest that abused them – we know this ind of trauma over long peroids will add to the suicide toll

There is no way the DJ’s have done anything wrong bar break some boradcast law thats probabaly broken every day and no one bats an eyelid

Its sad (as every sucicide that happens everyday is sad) but they happen because most people cant cop with life – ending a life is an exit from the pain….)

and I could be wrong but I just cannot see how a one off phone call that she actually transfered could cause that amount of trauma

Look if it did (1% chance lets say) then I would be asking the hospital why staff would feel like that?

My wife is an ex Nurse (they see people die – they se menatally unwell people – they often see people come in from car accidents) all kinds of trauma – they are trained to do that…we dont see an influx of nurses suiciding over this real trauma

so once again I just dont buy it- ver one phone call she passed onto somene else

lets hope t never goes to court in a civil matter – if it did there is no way it wouldstand up in court based on the evidence at hand.

the positve to come from this sad story is that maybe the whole culture of prank calls will cease – even though it played no part IMO will end.

I work with people every day with all sorts of demons and mental battles they face – most of them come out ok…and trust me they have seen real trauma (often years of abuse) and they find a way- odd one doesnt – that I understand

but I can’t see how one cal she transfered could do this

Dave,
Do you understand the traits of a driver personality? As confident as they are they also have a darkside of false in security. When they are humiliated they can face society to crawl into a corner and hide just like Tiger did for 3 months.
I have seen people with driver personalities be publicly humiliated by a person which lead to their suicide.
How do we know that this nurse wasn’t a driver personality and the public embarrassment is what lead her to taking her own life. It over whelmed her she became emotional and irrational and acted on the moment.

My point of view of the DJ’s is management were accountable as well for miss guiding these guys and allowing them to do it. I’m not blaming them for this person suicide. Although saying they did nothing wrong is false.They broke common ethics, lacked morals and respect by calling a hospital as a prank.
Where I’m coming from is for their benefit. For them to move forward if they can accept accountability them knowing deep down it was moral and ethically wrong what they did and chose to ignore this, they can heal and move forward. What they don’t need is for people around them telling them it’s not their fault when they know deep down it was morally and ethically wrong.
If they don’t acknowledge and confront this is will destroy them it will eat at them inside for the rest of their life.

The term ‘far call’ comes to mind. This girl was not well known to the public before her suicide, she just passed on the call from what I know, correct me if I’m wrong.

Morally and ethically wrong? That’s very high ground indeed, it may have been stupid and a tad irresponsible, but to describe it thus is far fetched in my view.

The fact is that all these type of actions are interesting to the general public and used by the media IS because there is some element of disregard for some party involved. All those bloody stupid prank shows are like that, Jackass is a classic example.

I don’t watch or support them, but hardly judge them ethically or morally? To say that this will “destroy them it will eat at them inside for the rest of their life” is a huge assumption, they could be well over it already realising that they were just a small part in a large situation that MAY have resulted in pushing someone towards a tragic situation.

Boy, I hope that letter comes out soon,,,,,,,,

Scenario; if these 2 DJ’s commit suicide, who is to blame?