The media makes me want to barf! Andrew Johns is a normal guy (with alot of dough in his pocket) and alot of people who want to be his friend. He’s going through a partying stage post footy. He’s exposed to alot of things out there with Joe public including the odd pill why hassle the poor guy so much and make him be drilled by morons. Leave the poor guy alone for god’s sake

he’s a druggo just like the rest of em! now crying depression too, as well as lying yesterday..what i want to know is all these so called injuries he copped in his career were they just smoke screens because the next immortal tested positive to illegal substances?

Leave him alone!!! You’ve gotta be kidding!! Johns is lying, cheating, arsehole! Even in the interview, anyone could see that he was either spaced out or drunk as a monkey! This guy has accepted the adulation of his hoards of fans, along with the medals, where he had no right to them. But what is worse, he has shown kids that you can become a superstar by cheating and lying.

Johns should be stripped of everything that he has ever been awarded. The Newcastle Club and the NRL should be ashamed of themselves and have a lot to answer for, as from what is now being made public, it has been common knowledge that he has been on the juice for 10 years! Drug testing in the NRL is a farce, if a player can get away with it for ten years! Or here is more proof that the NSW stars are protected!

Today’s biggest threat is supposed to be terrorism. Garbage!! The destruction of our youth by drug taking is a far bigger threat. The use of drugs is the cause of most of the crime committed in today’s world, either to get money to buy it or bash or murder someone because they thing they should!

I agree. A shameful example he is. These guys always have some excuse for their disgraceful behaviour.

Gees Bloke, that’s pretty fired up.

If the greatest league player I have seen is a pill popper, and the fittest and hardest runner in the AFL is an Ice addict, maybe the drugs aren’t that bad for the majority of people after all….

I’d heard rumours of Joeys drug taking for years – and I am sure he is not alone. I reckon you would struggle to find a young NRL player who hasn’t popped a pill on a night out at some point in their lives

And no bloke, I am not a disco bikkie muncher, no coke or ice addict. Carlton Draught is my drug of choice…

The_Bloke – Do you drink or smoke?

Well, I admit to taking coke and ice, but only with bourbon! (As you can see from my avatar!) I used to partake of ciggies, but have proudly given them up! I see what you are getting at, admin, as Badds.com would say “let him without sin, chuck the rocks”!! But hey, illegal, mind destroying, performance enhancing drugs have no place in sport!

And I’m not thinking Johns is the only one! There would be more than half, simply because that is the culture of the age group. Johns, just like any bad egg, is only saying “whoops” because he got caught!! Do you think he would admit to being a drug cheat otherwise? The same as all of the other sportspersons that haven’t been caught yet.

“If the greatest league player I have seen is a pill popper, and the fittest & hardest runner in the AFL is an ice addict, maybe the drugs aren’t that bad for the majority of people after all.”

Parents fear that their kids will adopt this sort of thought process. There is a clear consensus among medical authorities that Ice is highly addictive and will ultimately fark you up.

Illicit drugs will always be around. But if we value a society where only a minority are caught up in the perils of addiction, then we must advertise the dangers associated with any form of drugtaking.

I commend the initiative taken by the AFL & NRL in regard to their illicit drug testing policy. To the players, who are indeed elite athletes and rolemodels, I say well done. They have supported this policy through their respective Player Associations, and with consistency and persistence in the fight against illicit drugs, I am sure the message will no doubt filter through to those most vulnerable.

yeah the example he sets for younger players who idolise him is not the best.

I wonder if Andrew has popped a pill since he has come out? Who would believe the guy now?

“If the greatest league player I have seen is a pill popper, and the fittest & hardest runner in the AFL is an ice addict, maybe the drugs aren’t that bad for the majority of people after all.”

Parents fear that their kids will adopt this sort of thought process. There is a clear consensus among medical authorities that Ice is highly addictive and will ultimately fark you up.

Illicit drugs will always be around. But if we value a society where only a minority are caught up in the perils of addiction, then we must advertise the dangers associated with any form of drugtaking.

I commend the initiative taken by the AFL & NRL in regard to their illicit drug testing policy. To the players, who are indeed elite athletes and rolemodels, I say well done. They have supported this policy through their respective Player Associations, and with consistency and persistence in the fight against illicit drugs, I am sure the message will no doubt filter through to those most vulnerable.

Johns never admitted to taking performance enhancing drugs and from what i understand the drugs he took wouldve severley dented his physical fitness.

what he did was wrong, but he hasnt taken a drug to make him perform better and therefore win artificially, as someone like ben johnson did years back in the 100m olympic final.

I am of a similar age to johns and the use of recreational drugs is rampant throughout people from early teens and into late 30’s. Johns hasnt bashed anyone to obtain money to buy drugs nor has he bashed or done harm to someone while on them.

IMO alcohol is as lethal as recreational drugs, although it is regulated with things such as quality control. How many times to we hear of a drunk spouse bashing there partner or a drink driver hitting a pedestrian, all fuelled by a legal drug anyone over the age of 18 can purchase!?

Bradharro…... I agree, alcohol is a lethal weapon to some people, their family environment etc. Alcohol is legal and pills/narcotics are not however and I certainly hope they are never made legal. (drugs) If you take drugs you are an idiot no matter what your circumstances. Alcohol is abundant and unfortunately some people depend on it as a release. Depending on the personality of the person, it has different effects! I lost my entire family, Mum, Dad, Brother and Sister some 20 years ago to a drunk driver mate who was also on drugs. Head on car crash and their bodies burnt from the explosion.. I despise people as you may well imagine who drink and drive or do drugs. I love to have a beer thesedays but I do not drive a car when I have done so. In my younger years when I lost my entire family, I smoked a joint and hated it, I hit the piss to try and forget about things but it does not work mate. Andrew Johns has made his money but lied throughout his career in my opinion. Should he be given a 2nd chance? No way!!~

he is a drug cheat full stop strip him of everything and he shouldn’t be allowed to work in the sporting industry again

he is a drug cheat full stop strip him of everything and he shouldn’t be allowed to work in the sporting industry again

Agreed.

Not only that, taking drugs is illegal, he admitted to 10 years of using, there should be some ramifications.

I know there will be people out there that will say “everyone has the right to make their own errors in life” but that’s the whole problem!

If you say this you’re making excuses for these people and making this socially acceptable. You may ask have you taken drugs? Well I can categorically say (placing my hand over my heart) “no, I have never taken drugs other than medication”. I haven’t even taken a drag from a cigarette and I don’t drink alcohol, and when I tell people this they say I am stupid for not trying! WTF?!

So, I, my kids or your kids should be experimenting with drugs, because that is exactly what you are suggesting if you make any excuses for these people!!!

I say “No thanks, keep your filthy drugs out of mine and my kids life!”

Couldn’t agree more Brett

Anyone out there who thinks that Andrew Johns took ecstacy as a performance enhancing drug is a twit. The only performace enhancing qualities it has is that it helps you shag like a demon and dance all night. Unlike Ice, Heroin and Cocaine, I have never known of anybody to ever become addicted to Ecstacy. I probably shoudn’t say this, but besides Ice and Heroin(which are obviouslt terribly addictive)I’ve tried just about everything, and without a doubt the worst drug in an all round sense is alcohol. I can’t even be bothered to go into the social, health and economic issues related to this drug. I’m sure that most of the people who are now calling Johnsey a drug cheat/addict have never even tacken a ‘Recreational drug’(don’t you just love it when somone bags the game of golf, yet they’ve never played it) and that’s fine, but some drugs are different from others and do different things. Panadol can be bought off the shelf, Morphine can’t. As for the role model rubbish, who is bringing up your children, Andrew Johns or you? Surely it’s not that hard to tell your children that Shane Warne is an absolute champion on the field but a complete idiot off of it. Parents need to become more involved in their childrens lives and not keep hoping that someone else can give them the guidance to become good people. Now I’m not advocating perfomance enhancing drugs in sport, although it would be intersting to see how fast a human could run 100m, but drugs in society are here, humans love them, always have. Anyone who drinks coffee,alcohol or smokes cigarettes are drug takers. Do you know any drug addicts?

all of them take it look at all the stories coming out now!

all of them take it look at all the stories coming out now!

Agree. Agree.

OK csshugg, time for a reality check!

Laws are made to be adhered to whether YOU like it or not!! Cigerettes and alcohol are legal for persons over the legal age. End of story whether you like it or not! If you choose to smoke cigarettes or drink alcohol you are NOT breaking the law.

If you are driving under the influence of alcohol, you are breaking the law and suffer the concequences. If you cause injury or death by being under the influence of alcohol, the law of the land deals the penalty. I have spent 31 years as an emergency worker, so I have seen more than my share of trauma caused by alcohol and drugs. So don’t you little pill pushing upstarts try to tell me about the differences between drugs and alcohol. (And cigarettes and coffee)

If you cause domestic or any other violence you are breaking the law, whether you are influenced by alcohol or drugs.

It is up to the judicial system to deal with offenders.

So to csshugg and all the other defenders of illegal drug use, whether recreational or performance enhancing or as in the NRL “monster making”, take a trip to Bali or Thailand and send us law abiding citizens a wave on the six o’clock news from your cell and then define twit!!

Whether you like it or not, coffee, tea, cigarettes and alcohol are LEGAL. Drugs are NOT!

SOME drugs are not.

csshugg,

If your trying to be taken seriously, I suggest not comparing illicit drugs to coffee, cigarettes, or moderate alcohol consumption.

I’m sure that most of the people who are now calling Johnsey a drug cheat/addict have never even tacken a ‘Recreational drug’ and that’s fine, but some drugs are different from others and do different things.

I’ve tried just about everything

but drugs in society are here, humans love them, always have

csshugg,

People like you who have views such as this sicken me, I buried my older brother 15 years ago because he had a ‘friend’ like you. His best mate encouraged him to take recreational drugs and told him that it wouldn’t harm him. He made the mistake and took one pill, went to bed that night and never woke up (at least he didn’t suffer).

I don’t care what you’ve take mate, what right do you have to say these things? Your an idiot for doing so and so is Johns. You can’t tell me that any of these recreational drugs are safe in any dosage, do you know what is in them and how they were made? Do you know where the proceeds go for selling these drugs? I reiterate, “You are an idiot and a fool” and the sooner you and your kind wake up to yourselves (or go to SE Asia) the better society will be.

Brett..Borat…100% with you mate. I say bring in Indonesian Drug reform to Australia although I am not in Australia at this time. Perhaps the punishment can be a stinger with a 1 iron using the hardest rock known to golf slammed into their forehead to persuade them to stop drugs or dealing them? I am up for that, would be good practice mate hitting punch shots eh! Locking them up or giving them a death sentence is too easy. A golf ball in the head will hurt more. Imagine that, any person could try out for the position? Even a beginner! So yep, no to drugs mate.

Well it’s good to see some responses, this is obviously an emotive issue. Firstly I would like to say that I’m not a “pill pushing upstart”, I play golf, cricket and work 9-5 like everybody else. I am also not a drug courier.

I’m not sure if the main topic here is a-the fact that people take drugs b-that peolpe can die from drugs or c- a mixture of both.

As I said before people will always take drugs, as we’ve seen with endless anti cigarette and drink driving campaigns. PEOPLE NEED TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THEIR OWN ACTIONS. It is a very litigious society that we live in and people are often to ready to blame some one else for their decisions. Children must be educated on the effect and consequences of taking drugs, both legal and illegal. It is my expierience that one drug begats another. After getting drunk and enjoying the feeling, people will often look for the next high, be it legal or not. Prohibition does not work in stopping the use of drugs, i think you will find that many of the attitudes expressed in this forum will mirror exactly the attitudes towards alcohol in America during their prohibition, and we all know how successful that was. By merely beating our chests and declaring “It’s against the law so you shouldn’t do it” we will achieve nothing in preventing unneccesary deaths. Now I’m not here to say how this can be done, although I do have my thoughts, but I firmly believe that the first step is to accept that people will take drugs, a head in the sand (prohibiton) style approach will not move us forward. If we stick with this method we will continue the debate forever, obviously with the same results. We need to get smarter, not tougher.

csshugg I really fear that you are digging yourself in deeper here. Perhaps you need to read the responses (even if they are emotive) and know when to shut up. You ain’t gonna win this one against Brett Tai Bloke and ScottL etc. Your poor argument simply would not hold up under any sort of examination. You contradict yourself by saying “As for the role model rubbish, who is bringing up your children, Andrew Johns or you?” and later you say “Children must be educated on the effect and consequences of taking drugs”. If you cannot see the substantial distance between these 2 statements, then it is time to stop posting on this thread. I do not consider that any of the people on this thread who have howled you down are taking a “head in the sand (prohibiton) style approach ”, if that’s what you are suggesting (and it is what you are suggesting – very unfairly). And by the way, “PEOPLE NEED TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THEIR OWN ACTIONS” is the same idiotic mantra that drug takers have bleated since the 60’s to justify their drug use. In other words, “this is my choice and you have no right to intervene”. csshugg you are wrong. The Government and the community MUST intervene because drug takers CANNOT take responsibility for their own actions. Statements such as this, in a society where kids look up to Andrew Johns and are also exposed to drugs which can lead to death, are completely unacceptable. You must say NO to drugs, and you must say NO to public figures taking drugs or making drug-taking attractive to kids in any way.