Hi,

So many low markers I play with these days don’t tend to setup this way anymore, I find that their hands aren’t too forward from the ball…...what do you guys do?

Stefan

I know heaps that have forward shaft lean pros included.

I prefer it, gives me a feeling of where my hands need to be as a minimum at impact.

Check Edwins guys out.

I know heaps that have forward shaft lean pros included.

I prefer it, gives me a feeling of where my hands need to be as a minimum at impact.

Check Edwins guys out.

I love that Edwin stuff, its what I am currently working on, Love the reverse K set up, feels strange at first but you got to love it.

I know heaps that have forward shaft lean pros included.

I prefer it, gives me a feeling of where my hands need to be as a minimum at impact.

Check Edwins guys out.

A forward leaning shaft at set up has bugger all to do with shaft orientation at impact.

There are good reasons why a forward leaning shaft at set up, or a more centred, adjusted address, position might work better.

It all depends on the individual, what he is trying to achieve, and his particular stroke pattern.

Like Beezneeds and his grip, we all need to work out what suits us best.

I know heaps that have forward shaft lean pros included.

I prefer it, gives me a feeling of where my hands need to be as a minimum at impact.

Check Edwins guys out.

A forward leaning shaft at set up has bugger all to do with shaft orientation at impact.

There are good reasons why a forward leaning shaft at set up, or a more centred, adjusted address, position might work better.

It all depends on the individual, what he is trying to achieve, and his particular stroke pattern.

Like Beezneeds and his grip, we all need to work out what suits us best.

I disagree is does have alot to do with impact, otherwise we would not call it impact fix.

And if you read my post I said feeling of my hands at impact. I never mentioned it has anything to do with the actual orientation of the shaft at impact.

I know heaps that have forward shaft lean pros included.

I prefer it, gives me a feeling of where my hands need to be as a minimum at impact.

Check Edwins guys out.

A forward leaning shaft at set up has bugger all to do with shaft orientation at impact.

There are good reasons why a forward leaning shaft at set up, or a more centred, adjusted address, position might work better.

It all depends on the individual, what he is trying to achieve, and his particular stroke pattern.

Like Beezneeds and his grip, we all need to work out what suits us best.

I disagree is does have alot to do with impact, otherwise we would not call it impact fix.

And if you read my post I said feeling of my hands at impact. I never mentioned it has anything to do with the actual orientation of the shaft at impact.

” Iron setup – K position?” is the title of the thread, so I figure “set up” to be the point of focus – not Impact Fix which is something entirely different.

Impact Fix is a rehearsal of impact alignments and not a starting point from which to swing; though some “Hitters” have a tendency to start from an impact hand location as their preference.

Simply addressing the ball with a forward leaning shaft does not guarantee that the shaft will still be forward leaning at impact, no matter what it feels like.

That is my point – nothing more, nothing less.

You guys are on the same page. You both know that I make sure players know what a forward leaning shaft both looks like and how a semi impact fix initially reminds a player that Impact Fix position in the real swing is what we are shooting for, as opposed to a train wreck of a Bent Left Wrist.

Guru,

Bit of an odd question. Bumping the hips forward (not to Edwin proportions), as Tiger does for example…. With a turn right from that position, does the starting position at address help to negate a reverse pivot? Not something I do, but I just get curious when I consider why certain actions are taken at address….

Again, blokey I saw got me bumping my hips forward and it makes a massive difference to my ball striking (when I turn properly that is).

Anyway, as I said, just curious. I’m just thinking of the physical positions at the top of the backswing that it could lead to in a more conventional action.

Cheers

OC

By bumping the hips forward just a little bit helps a heap in many ways. As far as a RPivot goes even if you have one by bumping it stops the total torso going for a forward ride.

The trick is to isolate the upper and lower torso ala a hoola hoop action. It is a fun thing to learn and to do so is best tackled without a club in your hands to begin with. Once you have the feel and rhythm you could be in the running for Can you Dance once you start crushing a few balls with the power hoola:)

Cheers Guru,

I’m getting there, but still searching for ‘The HOOLA’!

OC

Put your hands on your head…......now do not move it…...now shake your butt to the left….and crush that ball.

Lets do the time warp:)

Guru,

I’ve been trying to work on bumping the left hip forward at address, but I only realised the other day in doing so I’ve been loading my weight onto my left side accidentally, which is leading to a good rotation, but putting me in a position which is not great for the swing pattern I’m working on. Ironically, my mate, who uses Edwin stuff is gutted, because where I am at the top would be a bit more ideal for him.

Is there an easy cue to build into a pre-shot routine to get the left hip bump (without putting my hands on my hips and physically moving them forward, so my right shoulder drops slightly?

Its the one thing I’m struggling to incorporate, because it feels like I’m aiming sideways when I try. I understand this position at address is not for all, but the guy I’m seeing for lessons works to a really clear swing pattern, so I want to implement this properly because it makes a massive difference to my ball striking and swing path through the ball.

Cheers

OC

Now where angels fear to tread is on another coaches development work with a player. Why, coz he has a plan that has parts that have to work together.

In a preshot routine from your top, try a downstroke waggle, ie practice just the transition until you find a means to get the position and feeling you are after.

The hip bump we talk about in here happens at that point in time as opposed to during the set up ala GE.

Hope that makes sense and gives you a clue.

All the parts have to work as one, so ask your coach for help.

Cheers guru, I watched Padraig Harrington at address in the USPGA and he sets his feet narrowly at first, aims, then opens his feet and bumps his hips slightly following this initial move. I suppose it’s just a matter of trial and error!

Cheers

Just like the set up in Fix Your Swing Part One really. He could be centering his head this way so there is more room to drop it down plane. Not really sure on that one as I did not pay that much attention at the time.

I just had a look at that article guru, cheers! The annoying thing is that when coach showed me, he drew a 100 degree line, which moved from the outside of my left leg, had my left hip just outside it and moved up just past my left ear. It replicated Tiger’s 6 iron address position. Interesting way of doing it! Just not easy to replicate initially. In fact the image of you holding the club is exactly what I’m looking for, it just feels horrendous!

what do if your left sided does edwin teach left handers, wouldn’t they be left sided? what is a right sided swing?

what do if your left sided does edwin teach left handers, wouldn’t they be left sided? what is a right sided swing?

He makes them right handed.

Optimal-

Try kinking your right knee in towards the left knee a bit at address…..that will drop the right side a bit and give you the k setup.

Lets step back a bit here and ask the “why” question. Set up is about posture for balance and working out alignments. So all these Special Ks and Tiger looks are for a purpose or two. Do you feel balanced and aligned properly and able to make a backswing and downswing back to Impact Alignments without the ship rocking too much?

Ponder the purpose as opposed to the cookie cutter looks.

Cheers guys….

Practiced last night again, as you rightly say guru, it’s question of being stable and comfortable at address while also putting yourself in a good position to start the swing. Cheers Finster, I’ll give that a whirl…..

Guru, are there any old threads on doing good practice? If not I’m starting one because I’m rubbish at practicing….

Guru,

The thing that’s annoying me is that when I was seeing coach in the UK, my set-up was where he wanted it and I was striping the ball. I’m just looking to return to that position…. Just trying to locate it now…

So go back and rethink what he taught via the ‘why’ route. When learning positions etc, always need to know the ‘why’ for your brain and your body to remember for future ref.

Fair point Guru…. Practice thread??? The good thing is that every lesson I had with him was burned onto DVD with him commentating. Back to the DVD’s again!

That is a bonus for the forgetful hehe.