Okay, I may have gone a bit OTT with the video itself, but thats where the OTT ends.. I hope :-) Enjoy and critique please :) . Hopefully thats zoomed in enough for ya’ll to see the details. Also thats the first vid I’ve ever made, so be nice!

Pretty good action defintitely seen a lot worse actions claiming to be off a lot lower handicap then you . I will let the gurus critique my only observation from a quick look would be a slight steepening of the shaft in the transition

From the lefties in the family:

“Dad, he swings like me. Ball needs to go forward though” Matthew, aged 11:)

One day he will support me in my old age.

Nice work Mr C. You have come a long way since first chatting here in the forum.

From the lefties in the family:

“Dad, he swings like me. Ball needs to go forward though” Matthew, aged 11:)

One day he will support me in my old age.

Nice work Mr C. You have come a long way since first chatting here in the forum.

Mr Guru sorry to hijack the thread just want to ask how to get hold of the book thanks?

Mr. C-

Boy, when you set your mind to something, you go all out! Nice job on the video. Your swing looks much better than your handicap. Are you having problems 100 yards in?

Couple of observations that might be off because your camerman was a bit shaky :o)

1. It looks like you come up out of your golf posture a bit right before you get to the top, meaning you are standing up a bit (at least when I draw lines on your head it does, but it could be a shaky camera man).

2. Hard to tell from the video, but looks like you might need a bit more extensor action on your lead arm.

If you are hitting fat or thin, then those two items could be the reason. If you aren’t, then disregard them, it could just be the video.

3. From the view from behind, it looks like your hands are too low at address. It looks like you are setting up on a plane angle that is so low I don’t even think Homer classified it (I guess technically it is a “hands only plane”). From there, you take a very steep takeaway and jump up to the turned shoulder plane, then come back down on an alternate plane. I’ll leave it to some of the others to make a suggestion, but you might want to look into starting with the club more up right, like on the elbow plane. One of Homer Kelly’s biggest suggestions is to start with the clubshaft on plane with the right forearm (in this case left forearm for yo) at address.

All in all, it is easy to see you have worked hard on your swing. Keep up the good work!!!!

Thanks for the comments and kind words!

Guru- Tell Matthew that I am trying my best to get the pill to go forward 8)

Slinger- Can you elaborate a little on that for me – I figure I need to understand it before I can fix it :).

Finster- I was hitting them really well today, but yes fat and thin shots are still a problem. Actually my 100 yards in is usually my strength. I have struggled since I took a month off golf and am finally getting my full swing to a place I am happy with. Next lesson I get is sandplay and working on my chipping (which has become really inconsistent :[ ). I wonder finster if you could post up a picture of the lines so I can fully understand what you mean. The extensor action is a part of the swing that I have largely overlooked but will read up on it in the near future. Also my handicap is a result of practicing hard but not being able to play comps. Hopefully I will be firing on all cylinders soon and can attempt to take another chunk out of my handicap real soon.

MrC, I’m impressed, you are not going to be holding back at 17 for too long! Keep up the good work!

Brett

Thanks Brett 8).

Also, from the evidence above, am I a hitter or a swinger?

Red is your club shaft angle at address. Blue is the angle you are taking the club up which is a turned shoulder plane angle. You bring the club down somewhere between (the green and yellow angles).

I’ll leave it to the A.I.’s to officially comment, but from what I’ve been taught by my A.I. and what I have read/seen, Homer recommends starting with the clubshaft and trailing forearm more in-line which means a more upright clubshaft at address.

Thanks for the comments and kind words!

Guru- Tell Matthew that I am trying my best to get the pill to go forward 8)

Slinger- Can you elaborate a little on that for me – I figure I need to understand it before I can fix it :).

Finster- I was hitting them really well today, but yes fat and thin shots are still a problem. Actually my 100 yards in is usually my strength. I have struggled since I took a month off golf and am finally getting my full swing to a place I am happy with. Next lesson I get is sandplay and working on my chipping (which has become really inconsistent :[ ). I wonder finster if you could post up a picture of the lines so I can fully understand what you mean. The extensor action is a part of the swing that I have largely overlooked but will read up on it in the near future. Also my handicap is a result of practicing hard but not being able to play comps. Hopefully I will be firing on all cylinders soon and can attempt to take another chunk out of my handicap real soon.

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Mr C
Ok i took a longer look and i see a lot of good qualities going on there.You are setting up with very low hands with lots of no 3 angle and not such a big deal and shift your hip out of the way very fast and make a nice forearm pick up to TSP it seems.The little problem i see occuring in the transition is you drop your hands/ arms behind and a little down behind you and in my opinion this may lead to some problems

Mr C, a lot of good things happening there. Great sense of rhythm, you can crack this if you make a couple of changes.

As Guru said, get the ball moved up in your stance – remember:

1) Club design
2) Body design

The ball needs to forward a couple of balls in your stance.

The other thing I spotted was that your chin seems glued to your chest. Lift that chin and you’ll find your turn will be easier.

I throw my 2 cents in for what it is worth but will leave the true analysis to the “ISG Brain’s Trust”

Mr C, there are a heap of good things going on in your swing! I definitely think that this is a better swing than your handicap is indicating.

From the rear (back facing camera), it looks great. And you downswing to the untrained eye looks very good.

I will only comment from my area of expertise “power generation”. I think you have heaps more power potential than you are currently utilising.

There does not seem to be much of an upper body turn, the backswing seems to be a “lift” with the hands and arms. I would say that developing more coil in your upper body would allow you to generate more power in your downswing.

From behind (down the line) It looks like your hands are too close to your body. The first movement seems to be the hands moving away from the body (slightly outside?). I think your set up comes from your cricketing influence where the hands are set close to the front leg. I think if your hands were so close to your thighs your first move wouldn’t be away and you may start to coil with the body a bit more.

Just my observations from a maximising distance view point. I will leave the real technical advice to guys like Guru, Darty and Bio – listen to these guys! Trust me they are spot on with their advice!

Excellent Video by the way, great music! It will put mine to shame if I ever get one up here! hahahaha…

Good job Mr C you have loads of potential!!

AB

one thing I wondered MrC is what editing software you used to make the video?

Thanks everyone for your critiques. I feel like I have hit a milestone with my golf swing and that its well on its way, but am under no illusions that it is a finished product.

Firstly Styles, I used the Windows Movie Maker Program. Was really quite easy, it sucked that in converting it I lost some of the visual quality (or maybe thats a youtube thing I dunno).

So I am trying to gather a list of the things I need to work on. I will be hopefully starting more regular lessons and once I had got a list I can take to him I will feel I am definitely on the right track.

So here goes…

1. Slinger- I drop my hands/arms behind and a little down in the transition (which is the part where the backswing meets the downswing right?).

2. Finster- I am standing up a bit at the top of my swing. - I also need to work on my extensor - I need to get my clubshaft on the forearm plane (rather than the hands only plane!)

3. Guru/Styles- Move the ball forward (I misunderstood when you said it the first time Guru, I thought Matthew was having a lil jibe at how far I hit my clubs 8]).

4. Styles- I gotta get my chin off my chest (although I wonder if that is related to being too close to the ball?)

5. AB- More coil less lift! (can that be related to a breakdown in the extensor action?) Also I know exactly what you mean about the first move seeming to be straight outside.. Hopefully moving away from the ball will remedy this, but how far should I go?

Thanks to everyone so far who has commented but I hope thats just the beginning as I want to make this list biig!

Cheers,

Mr. C

Mr C
Excellent show !

I love your hitting thru !
and pretty compact wing too

Thanks Kyc :-)

Great vid Mr. C. good to see Fox Hills being represented on the forum. I’ll have to say hi next time I’m down there having lunch! Which is quite often :)

Most definately :-) If you see a a big yellow number from the 70’s parked in the carpark then have a look on the practice fairway, as I am also there quite often :)

nice one Mr C

i know getting my chin outta my chest helped me greatly in the accuracy stakes.. got the GIR up massively
best of of luck

Yea grant it’s one of the changes I can monitor myself so it will be one of the first changes I implement. And A_B, I read straight over the point about not getting enough upper body turn as well. Is that remedied by trying to get my back to face the target at the top of the backswing and my chest facing it at impact?

Another question, do you think in the video from the directly behind view that I am bent over too far? Was watching some swing analysis vids of Tiger Woods and idea spine angle was around 60 deg… Mine looks closer to 45-50 deg!

Mr C,

I hazard to give you too much technical advice as I am not a qualified coach. I would suggest to wait till Bio or Dart come viewing to give you the right advice. I would hate to give you technical advice that ruins you as your swing is very good. I comment to maybe give you the tools for what to read up on.

Even at my stage I just found that due to poor posture I have created some non optimal positions. When in doubt go back to the basics, posture and alignments.

Sorry mate, I would jump in and tell you how I would do it, but getting advice from the right people is crucial. I am sure the doctors will be along soon.

I will give one tip for what it’s worth though…

If you have a straw broom, grab the handle and take a few swings with it. Due to its length and weight your body will have to function correctly with pivot rather than lift. I often go here when I am feeling a bit out of sync as I have found since I have moved into longer drivers that mistakes are often magnified the longer the club is.

Please don’t use this exclusively though as it may mess with your plane.

Interesting you say about your bend, I just am back from a training session and caught myself in bad posture which was causing some faults that I have. Funny it is always the basics that lead us to trouble later. As Dart said to me the other day “You must learn to sketch then mix paint before portraiture.” and Bio “I still love going back right to the beginning, back to my crayons, work my way up to learning to paint, producing another masterpiece painting, The greatest joy is learning and honing my skills so my new painting is better then my last one”

It is very good advice mate no matter what level you are at ;-)

Yea I know exactly what you mean about the basics. I was just watching a clip on youtube which has helped fix my grip up (as I have just changed over from the interlocking to the vardon). We have got a straw broom too, only problem is its the size of a golf club :(. I do however think the problem stems from a fear of my swingplane becoming too flat, as that has caused me no end of problems so instead of taking it back and around I am just taking it up (to a certain extent).

Great golf swing…a reverse shift…no crazy rotation…great extension…