I was recently studying Aaron Baddeley’s old swing and think that it’s one of the best I have ever seen.

Here is the link Pure class

In order to analyse it properly you can download the basic V1 software for free.

I am interested to know what the Dart thinks.

Who do you think has the best pattern:
1) of all time
2) of the current tour players

Royshh,

Isn’t this view of Aaron’s swing pre-S&T?

Royshh

I can understand why you like Badds old swing. I used his swing as the archetype for my web review of the golf swing.

See – Backswing

However, his new swing is just as good, although slightly different. He takes his hands deeper with a shallower arm plane, and he tends to remain slightly more centralised with a slight left-tilt of his upper torso. I compared his old swing to his new swing in this review paper.

Badds swing – old versus new

Although I think that Badds has a wonderful swing, I could say the same for Tiger Woods, Anthony Kim, Adam Scott, Trevor Immelman, Luke Donald, Justin Rose and many others.

Jeff.

Royshh,

Of all time—Bruce Crampton.

Of the current crop—Two players same name Campbell.

I think you can see why. Less resistance to natural motion

The difference in these and the next 10 would be small.

Badds swings I see here I am not impressed with because of the pause and lunging start to the downswing. he is not using the natural forces.

I wish mine was a good. The swings I like are seamless in the transition even if a bit loopy, under or over

I agree with Homer that the swing is 90% Physics. And for a thread I think our best golf is 100% mechanical.

The ability to keep the shaft on plane throughout the entire swing is one of the main criteria which I use to determine the proficiency of a golf swing.

Baddelely’s down the line iron swing comes as close as if not closer than anyone I have ever seen. This is why I rate his old swing so highly.

Where can I see pictures or footage of Bruce Crampton and Campbell?

Are they both Australian?

There must be something in the water down there.

The ability to keep the shaft on plane throughout the entire swing is one of the main criteria which I use to determine the proficiency of a golf swing.

Baddelely’s down the line iron swing comes as close as if not closer than anyone I have ever seen. This is why I rate his old swing so highly.

Where can I see pictures or footage of Bruce Crampton and Campbell?

Are they both Australian?

There must be something in the water down there.

Badds is off plane in that old swing so i am interested to know why you would consider that on plane

I never said he wasn’t off plane.

Slinger

You state that Badds was off plane in his old swing. When was he off-plane? Which plane?

Here is composite photo showing his clubhead path during the backswing and downswing.

Badds clubhead path

When is he off-plane?

Jeff.

Slinger

You state that Badds was off plane in his old swing. When was he off-plane? Which plane?

Here is composite photo showing his clubhead path during the backswing and downswing.

Badds clubhead path

When is he off-plane?

Jeff.

Jeffmann i had a look at your drawings and it seems you like the leadbetter theory and the golden triangle….each to his own…but thats off plane

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Present – Adam Scott – I don’t know if it is technically efficient but it’s nice to watch!

Favourite Long Driver – Mike Dobbyn (Sorry my heart lies here so had to include it!!)

I think you can best judge a swing by whether it looks asthetically pleasing… A thing of beauty is a joy forever!

I like Dart’s quote: “Less resistance to natural motion”

If they make it look easy, chances are they are doing it well!

Im with you Dart, Aaron Baddeley not impressive, doesn’t have that visual pleasing element – In my humble opinion

Slinger – You are in error regarding Badds swing. You have not demonstrated that he was off-plane by your remarks.. Essentially, Badds fulfills Homer Kelley’s criteria of being on plane – his clubshaft (either butt end or clubhead end) points at the ball-target line during the backswing and downswing. Leadbetter’s/McLean’s golden triangle is not representative of Badds swing or my latest thinking on “being on plane”. I now believe that the clubshaft should always point at the ball-target line when it is not parallel to the ball-target line. This has been clearly expressed in my latest review papers on my website.

Jeff.

Royshh.

Michael Campbell won the US Open some years ago and Crampton would have too except for Jack Nichlaus.

I changed my mind to Tommy Bolt.

Slinger – You are in error regarding Badds swing. You have not demonstrated that he was off-plane by your remarks.. Essentially, Badds fulfills Homer Kelley’s criteria of being on plane – his clubshaft (either butt end or clubhead end) points at the ball-target line during the backswing and downswing. Leadbetter’s/McLean’s golden triangle is not representative of Badds swing or my latest thinking on “being on plane”. I now believe that the clubshaft should always point at the ball-target line when it is not parallel to the ball-target line. This has been clearly expressed in my latest review papers on my website.

Jeff.

Sorry Jeffmann can’t agree that clubshaft in his backswing particularly with the iron swing is not pointing at the extended base plane line it is pointing inside it

Jeffmann
having done some more research into the “old swing” of Badds against his “new s&t swing” you may find it interesting that the “old swing” was in the process of morphing into the “new s&t swing” since he was already working with P&B for 6 months and that may explain how he was closer to the base plane line in this sequence than his true old leadbetter swing

If it’s pleasing to the eye swings then I can’t go past Ernie for pure ease of motion but then I also really like the look of someone like Pampling, especially as he starts into his downswing. Pure.
Having said that, I find that Iseek forums are so filled with position golfers that I just don’t bother anymore. Some of you guys need to lighten up a little. Seems like you might go through a lot of anguish on the course trying to get into all the myriad of positions that the almighty Homer described. Live a little guys….:)

OK I am supposed to be having a day or two away but cannot let this one slide.

Homer was into ALIGNMENTS in motion, not positions.

For those who still think we are talking positions, sorry but you have to consider how the dots are just parts of the total swing. GE fans know alignments are top and I too enjoy seeing Pamps swing in motion.

Now back to my mini break. Back at the end of the week.

Slinger – you may be perfectly correct about Badds “old” swing. I have never really seen his swing when he was being coached by Leadbetter, and you may be perfectly correct to state that he was off-plane at that stage. I only have his V1 Home swing, which you state was already influenced by P&B since he had been working with them for 6 months. I didn’t know that fact – thanks for the info.

Jeff.

333,

There is a little position work to be done before the alignment work starts but you have to be patient with the new ones.

You were a learner once your self. Didn’t some one help you ?

The best plane in golf is to be on a a jet..a plane flight. Just don’t crash land…..

My favorite golf swing has always been Ben Hogan. Out of the women pros I always liked Mickey Wright’s swing. Most people never got to see her play so here is a sample swing.

http://homepage.mac.com/emg...

LFG,

Thanks for that clip! Mickey Wright…....Poetry in motion!!!!

Michael Campbell for sure! Was lucky enough to see him in NZ and Germany. My god what a beautiful move.

Have y’all seen Prayad Marksaeng? He and Nicklaus played together and Jack said he is the most natural golfer he’s ever met.