Okay here is a little technical thought that I would like peoples thoughts on. Sorry it gets a bit deep!

Being that the majority of people have one side of the body that is more dominant that the other, will this be reflected in their golf swing?

I know the TGM-ers have a defined “left arm swinger” “right arm hitter” concept. But after reading a machine based article on left side dominance of the model golf swing (not it was not Homer) and viewing successful one-armed golfers, it got me thinking….

In most sports one side is the dominant force contributor whilst the opposing side provides the stability. Would the golf swing therefore be any different?

And if one side is truly dominant over the other, would the planes of the golf swing differ between a left side dominant individual and a right side dominant individual?

Further to this if one went against their dominance or had one side dominating the backswing and the opposing side dominating the downswing would this cause technical issues commonly seen in the golf swing?

DRILL: Grab a club and take some one armed swings with both left and right arm. Does one side feel more “normal”?

Is this the side that should be dominating your golf swing?

Try ‘whoosh’ a shaft around left handed, then right. Most players make more ‘whoosh’ out of their left side. Only when they get the grip correct and directed via the right forearm will they get close to hearing the same volume levels.

And then it could be via a right armed swing or a right arm thrust. Two very different power supplies.

Guru,

Tom Tomasello demo in his video, the whoosh was lil’ bit more from his right arm and hands.

With reference to the 4 stance theory that I posted in other topic, it said that type A golfers can easier swing a club with only left handed but difficult for type B and vice versa.

Funny, Kenny is type B and he is good at single right arm and hands hitting the ball, but he mess with left arm.

Of course, the writer also has a test to see whether you are a “cross” person meaning that you can use your left or right with some training. I am cross type…so I can demo a lot of pattern just a lil’ better than Kenny…hehe

Homer said: If you are fast, you swing; if you are strong, you hit…if both, swing or hit as you like….

Try ‘whoosh’ a shaft around left handed, then right. Most players make more ‘whoosh’ out of their left side. Only when they get the grip correct and directed via the right forearm will they get close to hearing the same volume levels.

And then it could be via a right armed swing or a right arm thrust. Two very different power supplies.

Guru:

Hence the reason why I asked this question. I can make the club “whoosh” significantly faster with my right side. The left side in comparison barely makes the “wh….” ;)

My trouble seems to be (and I caught this the other day) my left hand was fighting my right on the backswing but my right hand dominates through the downswing and through impact.

I went out today and just held the club with the left side relaxed and simply functioning as a 2 lever system with a free hinge powered by the right hand. On the backswing I loaded the hinge (for want of the correct terminology) with the right hand and subsequently unloaded it via an aggressive pushing motion with the right side (I guess this is what TGM terms thrust?)

My question and resulting hypotheses is this:

“Will a golfer be more efficient in their golf swing if they allow their stronger side (hand and therefore opposing hemisphere of the brain) to dominate?”

Cross lateralisation of the brain (using both sides simultaneously) is difficult when performing any task is it not? Therefore by allowing the dominant hemisphere to perform action via the dominant hand, with no impediment from the opposing hemisphere, should result in more efficient results should it not?

Jeffman, PHD where are you?

Guru,

Tom Tomasello demo in his video, the whoosh was lil’ bit more from his right arm and hands.

With reference to the 4 stance theory that I posted in other topic, it said that type A golfers can easier swing a club with only left handed but difficult for type B and vice versa.

Funny, Kenny is type B and he is good at single right arm and hands hitting the ball, but he mess with left arm.

Of course, the writer also has a test to see whether you are a “cross” person meaning that you can use your left or right with some training. I am cross type…so I can demo a lot of pattern just a lil’ better than Kenny…hehe

Homer said: If you are fast, you swing; if you are strong, you hit…if both, swing or hit as you like….

KOC

Have you got the tests for the 4 stance theory? And any corresponding information on each type and what their characteristics are?

A_B,

Yes, as said, I am type BI and the writer really suggests corresponding information.

I will try to post the detail once “translation” is finished.

A_B,

Yes, as said, I am type BI and the writer really suggests corresponding information.

I will try to post the detail once “translation” is finished.

I was more coming from the point of view so the rest of us could find out what we are and the explanation of each types basic charateristics but thats cool, will wait til you can post it.

Thanks anyway KOC

AB

I don’t care where the power comes from, only that it is smooth and predictable and aimed in the right direction.

I would be very interested in getting more of each and I am pretty sure mechanics will present the answer not psychometrics.

I don’t care where the power comes from, only that it is smooth and predictable and aimed in the right direction.

I would be very interested in getting more of each and I am pretty sure mechanics will present the answer not psychometrics.

Having a bad day?

I sense your negativity regarding everything I post Dart, I have always treated you with respect until now. Had a gutfull of what you are writing to be honest.

Focussing on one tree does not encompass all the possibilities that can be found in a forest. Some people choose also to think laterally to find solutions.

Mechanics are not the be all and end all Dart, there are many other factors that contribute to one’s success in any endeavour!

A.B.
Your both in my book, two great guys ,who I have, a great deal of respect for ,so I’m not taking sides,
Dart is aiming this at all readers ,as long as I have known dart he has always said his little quote above and said this in other post along the same lines.
A.B if dart was aiming at you he would have said A.B, and being a straight shooter dart would say A.B. that’s B.S
He does this to me when I need a kick in the arse at times : )
You are on the same page, there’s a secret behind why dart said this, is for people learning golf learn, there no wrong or right to generate power so long as it’s smooth and predicable and aimed in the right direction. Stop students having a closed mind, your allowing them to find their own way of generating power. If you put in right and wrongs there becomes boundaries and restriction, this stops people from learning and experimenting to find ways of doing things. We don’t want that so as a good coach ,we would say we don’t care where the power comes form along as it’s smooth, predicable and aimed in the right direction.
regards to mechanic homer say the mind are in the hands. Darts point to everyone is as you learn mechanics your on board computer learns along the way to visualise a motion. We teach this through mechanics. Champ unless mechanics are in place the average punter can’t apply this skill to it’s full capabilities

A.B your a talented guy and who has an ability to visualise,and we all admire your talents ,your mechanics are pretty sound and to me your very lucky, being like tiger you woke up having this ability and had the mechanics in place and discovered this very quickly.
keep up the good work it’s good to hear what you have to say : )

, I had a lesson of dart his quote above about power he said to me and helped me out a lot, he had me creating power through my right foot,up through my ankle and knees, kinetic chain and to be honest he opened up my eyes, I never thought of this at the time, wow did I crust the ball,
mate hope you don’t get me wrong ,there’s no sides with me when, it comes , to you both ,just trying to explain darts angle, so we all remain good friends and can learn together : )

Bio:

No mate, I understand completely what you are saying. I respect Dart very much. This post was put up by me, it wasn’t aimed at the beginner, it was meant for the more advanced golfers. We still have questions too and thought we were also allowed to ask questions from people who may know more? Mate I consider myself a learner also, anyone who thinks he knows it all, doesnt progress and quickly gets left behind.

From my perspective with my ambitions as a long driver my constant goal is one more metre, one more mph swing speed. If I can improve 1% a week that’s 52% in a year! I still have questions, I am still seeking.

As far as waking up one morning and having natural talent, this is not the case with me mate. I work harder at my golf than anyone I know. A day does not pass that I don’t try to improve in at least one facet. Put an iron in my hands im very ordinary, ask me to putt and I will show you why I initially gave the game away. I specialise in one area. Driving, which I love. I know how important mechanics are mate and believe me mine are far from ideal. I just find a way to make it work and I think the optimal word here is work.

I just want to be able to post questions too from my perspective and be able to get answers to these questions without being made to feel like my questions don’t matter.

Mate I am an easy going guy but one thing I ask of anybody is to treat me with respect.

It’s all good at this end, was just frustrated that Dart made me feel like I wasn’t entitled to ask a question for my benefit.

AB, ??, “i am an easy going guy but one thing i ask of anybody is to treat me with respect”. I will give you a tip. You do not advertise to the world that you should be treated with respect as respect is given in due course without asking for it?

Please do not get frustrated at me AB as I am entitled to try and help.

Keep it on da grid bro.

A_B,

I can’t help how you feel. Sorry if you are hurting yourself.

I don’t need respect I just need results from pupils and readers.

As I have just posted on the other thread we can all say what we like, thats fine, but it is my job to show up the rough stuff.

Or at least it used to be my job. I might need retraining :)

Best wishes.

Paul H

I do not need respect….well said Dart.

AB, ??, “i am an easy going guy but one thing i ask of anybody is to treat me with respect”. I will give you a tip. You do not advertise to the world that you should be treated with respect as respect is given in due course without asking for it?

Please do not get frustrated at me AB as I am entitled to try and help.

Keep it on da grid bro.

Ang muhay ay puno ng pag-asa

No drama you can say what you like, I will be taking a step back in what I say! Respect should be given from the get go though mate, I guess what I am referring to is courtesy, which I too have been lacking myself at times. Where I come from if you disrespect the wrong people, you find out the hard way.

Its all good, I have realised the errors of my ways and will be making a concerted effort to act accordingly!

UNLESS YOU BAG LONG DRIVERS OR LONG DRIVING!!! GRRRR…. hahahaha ;)

A_B,

Thanks for that.

Your sunny personality and you are a welcome addition to a fairly dry subject. Not golf but the almost military discipline required on the teaching side.

Who said Nazi?

Alan Border (AB),

Courtesy, what a nice sounding word. Where do u come from? Wrong people, find out the hard way etc? Please do not use large letters directing a post at me.

Tirahin ang bola sa tamang posisyon….and I am not taking the piss out of you. Lets get back to golf and arid humour.

A_B,

Thanks for that.

Your sunny personality and you are a welcome addition to a fairly dry subject. Not golf but the almost military discipline required on the teaching side.

Who said Nazi?

The Golf Nazi… catchy… “No Swing for you!”

I totally understand what you are saying Dart. The are parameters in play when you are teaching technique and you can’t allow students to waiver from them. Discipline is important in life as in golf.

Alan Border (AB),

Courtesy, what a nice sounding word. Where do u come from? Wrong people, find out the hard way etc? Please do not use large letters directing a post at me.

Tirahin ang bola sa tamang posisyon….and I am not taking the piss out of you. Lets get back to golf and arid humour.

Ang muhay ay puno ng pag-asa

Praningka:

Easy big guy! The large letters weren’t directed at you, they were a joke for everyone. I realise that I am a little bit too passionate for my own good at times and react a little too aggressively. I am definitely taking a chill pill with my posts.

As far as my past, I would rather leave it in the past mate. I got caught in a bad circle of people for a period of time.

Being caught in a bad circle of people for a certain period is unfortunate. Rising above the past and learning from past experiences is what makes a person or for the sake of this forum, a golfer, no matter what their current ability is.
Golf, great game…

Keep it in the grid.