Pretty sure I have this disease . Can someone please explain the causes of this dreaded ailment and drills to do to flush it from my system. I have been working on eliminating the OTT move and dont know if this is a related disease. A video of my swing shows that I am coming through more inside but still a little OTT.

Also, at what point in the follow through does the left arm begin to bend?

Australian Golf Digest May 2008, pg 66, Fred Couples is displaying a severe chicken wing. Just my 2c saying that it may not be as “dreaded” as you think.

Left arm bends after the right arm straightens and usually before the right arm is horizontal – but it shouldn’t require any thought or conscious effort at all. When you’re releasing properly, a huge number of good things/positions “just happen”.

Try putting a towel under your right arm (tucked up in your armpit) and try to keep it there throughout your swing. I do believe that is how you counter the chicken wing.

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.

Down and out and hands in front of the club head at impact.

Do a search on this forum for “finish swivel”. It is the bridge between follow through and finish. Doing the finish swivel properly will prevent you from chicken winging.

This is all I have ever said on ISG but I will say it another thousand times if necessary.

OTT, chicken wing, slicing, fat shots, shanking and loss of power and direction are caused by steering.

Sure it takes time to learn and in the meantime the ball sprays around. So do ‘IT”where it won’t hurt your ego. On the range with a 7 iron or the back of the course somewhere.

It usually take six months. But don’t tell me it feels bad and out of control. Of course it does it is a whole new world.

I am learning how to walk again after a hip operation and what feel like a girl on the cat walk looks like John Wayne in the mirror.

Have a go.

Try putting a towel under your right arm (tucked up in your armpit) and try to keep it there throughout your swing. I do believe that is how you counter the chicken wing.

The REAL Mr Consistency

http://www.golflink.com.au/...

You are a lefty aren’t you Mr C?

A towel under a right hander left armpit would have more success with chicken wing issues.

Dart

Does steering lead to fat shots in even short pitches and chip shots? And this is a legit query as I would never have guessed in a million years that steering would be an issue on short shots.

Hope the hips get better.

Sure is. Steering can be a bad manipulation of both clubface and clubhead. Take a club in your right hand only. Try swinging it gently right arm only down the equivalent of the flight line – in a straight line as most people think they have to do. The face gets manipulated via the right wrist or arm and so does the shaft plane angle. Hmmm, if the right wrist goes from bent to flat, there is your thins and fats.

Down the range again this morning working on keeping on plane and coming down on the inside but the 80% of the shots I was pushing left with my OTT swing are now slicing badly to the right.

I think it all comes comes back to Darts point about hand roatation as I feel as if my right palm is facing slightly to the right at impact, which I suppose also means my left wrist is pointing there as well.

Just as a reference should you be able to see the veins on your right arm/wrist at impact and if not at what point should this dissapear from view?

One last question. Is it correct ot have the clubface slightly open at address or square to target.

ps, any good drills for hand rotation?

Gotta,

I think you and several other guys on the forum should try and get to one of the 2 Paul’s schools. Their hands on teaching will have you walking away truly enlightened!

Maybe when the Duke, uh I mean, the Dart stops walking like John Wayne they can fire up a school for you. :)

Gotta,

I think you and several other guys on the forum should try and get to one of the 2 Paul’s schools. Their hands on teaching will have you walking away truly enlightened!

Maybe when the Duke, uh I mean, the Dart stops walking like John Wayne they can fire up a school for you. :)

Where and When are they on?, im out for a month with injury but when I come back id be keen.

Gotta,

I think you and several other guys on the forum should try and get to one of the 2 Paul’s schools. Their hands on teaching will have you walking away truly enlightened!

Maybe when the Duke, uh I mean, the Dart stops walking like John Wayne they can fire up a school for you. :)

Where and When are they on?, im out for a month with injury but when I come back id be keen.

ditto

Try putting a towel under your right arm (tucked up in your armpit) and try to keep it there throughout your swing. I do believe that is how you counter the chicken wing.

The REAL Mr Consistency

http://www.golflink.com.au/...

You are a lefty aren’t you Mr C?

A towel under a right hander left armpit would have more success with chicken wing issues.

down and out…did ya get that?

Ahh yes, my mistake. Altohugh guru’s post has me a little concerned. Theres something about seeing “Noooooooooooooooooooo” after a post which is quite disconcerting :)

Definitely disconcerting.
I had flashbacks to a teacher screaming at the front of class, looking directly at me, but pointing across the other side of the room. Both of us frozen in fear that we were the target :)

Yes Spike, Im all for a education from Paul if he is ever in Adelaide.

In the meantime I would appreciate any forum feedback re my previous post.

ps, tried uploading a photo but looked like it completed without any errors but didnt see the picture or link to it in body of text? How should it look if it uploads correctly?

Have you tried the “baseball” drill?

I found it works as a quick fix, but not permanent.‎

The best was to practice til bored swinging hands back and through to about hip ‎height, getting club face through vertical to vertical and watching the ball flight. ‎Think body rotation too – stalled pivot will chicken wing I believe.‎

Glad Dart said 6 months – I’m only 3 into his advice re experiment with timing roll. ‎Occasional semblances of ball control. And, big D, golfer’s elbow has gone away as ‎you said it would.‎

Mr C, the nooooooo is an Inspector Drefus (OK go and get the Pink Panther movies out) twitch to the towel drills:) You cannot throw other than like a girl with a towel under your throwing arm so why play golf that way?

Workshops we will fire up again in Spring time in Syd, Melb, Gold Coast and Perth again. Same deal as last year of a full day of a bit of classroom to get the ideas in place, then a wander through the how to of the power chain and direction control. Always huge light bulbs going on from those who come along and help close at hand for post the workshops too. Anyone who wants to come along drop a line to golfguruATiseekgolf.com to go on the info list.

Mr C, the nooooooo is an Inspector Drefus (OK go and get the Pink Panther movies out) twitch to the towel drills:) You cannot throw other than like a girl with a towel under your throwing arm so why play golf that way?

Workshops we will fire up again in Spring time in Syd, Melb, Gold Coast and Perth again. Same deal as last year of a full day of a bit of classroom to get the ideas in place, then a wander through the how to of the power chain and direction control. Always huge light bulbs going on from those who come along and help close at hand for post the workshops too. Anyone who wants to come along drop a line to golfguruATiseekgolf.com to go on the info list.

Guru…Mr C had his left and right mixed up…how do you feel about a towel under the leading arm?

Yes I just realised that:) The towel under the target side arm is not so bad at all, now we are talking about the Master Power Accumulator and Pressure Point#4 which does need to stay in place which helps stop OTT and throw away. Also helps maintain rhythm for most people.

Just do let it fall as trying to keep in there in the follow through just screws even more up with towel keepers never getting through to a decent finish.

Guru,

With the towell drill at what point should the towell fall out after impact?

On the way to Both Arms Straight past low point.

Down the range again this morning working on keeping on plane and coming down on the inside but the 80% of the shots I was pushing left with my OTT swing are now slicing badly to the right.

I think it all comes comes back to Darts point about hand roatation as I feel as if my right palm is facing slightly to the right at impact, which I suppose also means my left wrist is pointing there as well.

Just as a reference should you be able to see the veins on your right arm/wrist at impact and if not at what point should this dissapear from view?

One last question. Is it correct ot have the clubface slightly open at address or square to target.

ps, any good drills for hand rotation?

Only matters at impact. Best drill is left arm swing thru to 45 with left hand parallel to target line, 45 to target line and 90* back and forth till you feel the difference in rhythm of the three movements. No.1 is a swing 2 is a hit 3 is a slice. They are all good if you can tell the difference and find the right use for them.

ok, you’ll have to clarify that last post Dart, it makes no sense to me at all.

Please elaborate on “left arm swing thru to 45 with left hand parallel to target line, 45 to target line and 90* back and forth till you feel the difference in rhythm of the three movements. No.1 is a swing 2 is a hit 3 is a slice.”

Cheers in advance