Just wondering when you would use this shot. The only time I can think of is when there is not much green between pin and ball or when your under trees. I have been advised to get the ball on the green on the full wherever possible to eliminate bad bounces etc.

on the contrary i occ use this when there’s much green to work with…..

Kyc, can you explain why you would take the chance of a bad bounce when you could lob it on the green?

ps, still learning the game so all advice taken on board at this stage.

The longer a ball on the green remains on the ground the better. Obviously this is not true if you are chipping over crap ground (ie long rough, rough ground)...but if you have a clear line to the pin and it is fairly smooth then the bump and run should be your preferred method..well it is for me :)

I personally find it harder to nip the ball the same way with a lofted wedge than to play a ‘putt’ with my closed face 9 iron (my club of choice for Bump and Run)...Take a bit of time and hit 10 to 20 balls as lofted wedges and the same as bump and run (assuming the ground between you and your target is pretty good) and I bet the balls hit BaR will collectively be closer…

The more you do it the better you will get at judging how a ball will react with the green surrounds.

I know there are guys that can hit Lobs like Mickelson but for the most part Bump and Runs are easier to get close

on the contrary i occ use this when there’s much green to work with…..

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I would B&R an 8i any day over a short wedge, for me it is always more realiable and we have very smooth approachs to the greens.

Sometimes B&R from up to 50-60m away. It is not hard with a little pratice. This all relates back to lie, grass, fringe, green, pin position etc of course.

Old guy once said “your worst putt will always be better than your worst chip.”

My mate useto play off 2 and he is a master of this shot and uses it all the time.

The longer a ball on the green remains on the ground the better. Obviously this is not true if you are chipping over crap ground (ie long rough, rough ground)...but if you have a clear line to the pin and it is fairly smooth then the bump and run should be your preferred method..well it is for me :)

I personally find it harder to nip the ball the same way with a lofted wedge than to play a ‘putt’ with my closed face 9 iron (my club of choice for Bump and Run)...Take a bit of time and hit 10 to 20 balls as lofted wedges and the same as bump and run (assuming the ground between you and your target is pretty good) and I bet the balls hit BaR will collectively be closer…

The more you do it the better you will get at judging how a ball will react with the green surrounds.

I know there are guys that can hit Lobs like Mickelson but for the most part Bump and Runs are easier to get close

A bad day at golf is better than a good day at work.

i totally agree
unless the ground is crap
the green w it’s smooth surface (for me) is easier to work with a bnr
like a chip-putt shot

it’s all about feel and judgement
takes practise as live4golf said

however for a longer shot a pitch shot in the air is the way to go

You guys must play on better courses than me as most of the fringe around greens I play on are that thick the ball wouldnt get through it.

Interesting to know what % use the B&R v the wedge.

You guys must play on better courses than me as most of the fringe around greens I play on are that thick the ball wouldnt get through it.

Interesting to know what % use the B&R v the wedge.

as i said it’s a matter of judgement and feel
if the fringe is as thick as pubic hair then perhaps a more lofted shot may be required ?

Here is the old adage:

If can Putt, Putt.
If you cannot Put, Chip
If you cannot Chip, Pitch

At the Dunes workshop I had a player test this theory out for himself as he was more comfortable pitching to a hole than chipping. Yet the results he got showed his chipping was more accurate even to the far side of the hole.

Pitch if there are too many hills and vales to read like a putt.
Chip if a putt has too much rough stuff in the way of a putt.
Putt if the fringe is clean and there is nothing in the way of the line you need to take.

You guys must play on better courses than me as most of the fringe around greens I play on are that thick the ball wouldnt get through it.

Interesting to know what % use the B&R v the wedge.

as i said it’s a matter of judgement and feel
if the fringe is as thick as pubic hair then perhaps a more lofted shot may be required ?

If Tiger plays Lefty will he be that good ?
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You will however be better served putting over a ‘brazilian’ fringe ;-) Also, agree 100% with Gurus advice, there is a certain degree of judgement involved. When to putt is an important judgement, because you can putt out of a bunker if you wanted too!

I had a mate who used to putt out of bunkers…not for me ,but he made it work!!

I had a mate who used to putt out of bunkers…not for me ,but he made it work!!

How? Would love to see it done.

As already described, bump and run is a MUCH more consistent shot than a pitch. Pick a spot about 1/3 to the target, weight on front side then like a putt, don’t break wrists (hands stay in front of clubhead). With not too much practice you’ll be getting it close. Of course you have to pick the right club and I find I get closest when I go P,9 or 8 rather than sand and gap.

I use 8i to bump & run. Normally play this shot if lie is poor, not much grass or to elevated green. It’s a % shot for me
besides i only have 1 wedge.

I use it from low under trees or if the confidence is down with the wedges, I used to use it all the time but have learnt to use my sand wedge more efficiently now. Try it, practice it, it is a great shot to have in your arsenal.

around the green I use 2 clubs mainly:

60* Lob Wedger for the high soft landing type over bunkers,water or from between 10-60m away.

PW- for the bump and run, I change the ball position inn my stance to vary the trajectory I need.

On the very odd occasion Ill used a 8Iron, but I usually putt it instead of using a 8Iron mainly.

The bump and run will be your friend but how many people practice it?

Not I sir. I should use it more than I do… When I used to practice I found it important to start by focusing on where it was to land on the first bounce. It might seem obvious, but if they land at the same length, they finish very close together. So land it in a certain spot, then change clubs as you require more distance is my advice.

I had a mate who used to putt out of bunkers…not for me ,but he made it work!!

How? Would love to see it done.

Flush it, chunk it, flush it, chip it, hole it 5 a half!
Flush it, flush it, three putt the half!

cant imagine putting out if the lip is steep !

I had a mate who used to putt out of bunkers…not for me ,but he made it work!!

Side note I have a mate who will use his putter from 100 out because to him it is a % shot …

I dont practice the bump and run shot but have used it on a number of occasions when I’m in a difficult spot but can see the green.

Cheers,

Mick

I had a mate who used to putt out of bunkers…not for me ,but he made it work!!

How? Would love to see it done.

Flush it, chunk it, flush it, chip it, hole it 5 a half!
Flush it, flush it, three putt the half!

cant imagine putting out if the lip is steep !

If Tiger plays Lefty will he be that good ?
You sure Square is Good ? Don’t Think So !
Good Golf is Fun plus the Great Outdoors…
In the Bag: Clubs and Balls. My Handicap is Bad Golf.

If you have a heel and toe style putter, apparently it is the perfect club for when your ball is plugged in the wall of a bunker.

Its funny cos I shied away from the bump n run for a long time because of the ‘bad bounces’ I would get. When Guru showed me how to actually play it properly (down n out) its amazing how those bad bounces have all disappeared – go figure!

:-P

I rarely use it,
Simply because i have so much confidence in the Lob.
If its not within a foot or two, i crack the shits, simply because i’ve grown to expect this of myself.
Whatever works works i suppose.

tomrules: I know I used to be the same until I learned the low runner properly. My coach at the time would ask why I lobbed and I gave him almost the same answer you wrote there. Now the fellow showed me the low runner but could not teach it to me. He never explained how and why it worked. Another guy did and bingo the choices I gained around the green to control the ball came to life.

Possible moral to the story? “Put in the hole with whatever works, whilst learning the other options if you wish to progress your scores on the practice grounds.”