What is everyones thoughts of it?
Rightsided vs leftsided?
flippers vs shape?

Id like to understand the difference a bit better if you or someone could go into it a bit?

www.garyedwingolf.com

There is a mountain of GE info in the older threads in the forum. Do a search on GE and have fun.

anyone here a GE believer??would love to hear from you guys

Yes, GE rocks!

GE places great emphasis on maintaining body angles in the swing, and makes for a very repeatable and powerful swing. If you get the body angles right and maintain them through the swing you can’t go wrong. Used to be a TGM guy, but the GE approach works much better for me now.

Now thats funny. What’s not in TGM that’s in that swing:) It’s a good pattern and one I like to keep moving parts to the minimum.

Search GE and then tab TOPICSs. Man there is a lot in there more than I remember:)

Yes, GE rocks!

GE places great emphasis on maintaining body angles in the swing, and makes for a very repeatable and powerful swing. If you get the body angles right and maintain them through the swing you can’t go wrong. Used to be a TGM guy, but the GE approach works much better for me now.

Who is coaching you now days Novice? Still got and using the vision track?

I love the setup angles which GE talks about, avoid lots of unnecessary lateral movement off the ball. However, I doubted the “right side swing” esp. when GE related that to Ben Hogan!

Who is coaching you now days Novice? Still got and using the vision track?

down and out…did ya get that?

Hey Toolish,

Taking lessons with Tom Fielding at Kingston Links. Tom helped set-up Gary’s schools in Singapore and China, and has now branched out on his own. Tom teaches the right-sided swing and is still great friends with Gary.
LOL … not using the Vision track any more, don’t really need it if you understand radius, turn and weight transfer. Sorry I couldn’t resist throwing in some GE terms there.

Nice work actually going to GE coach rather than trying to learn it yourself….good to see a GE follower back here.

So, seen as you threw those terms in, any chance you could explain them! I think I finally understand what setting up into yourself means, and setting up inverted and would like to learn more.

I love the setup angles which GE talks about, avoid lots of unnecessary lateral movement off the ball. However, I doubted the “right side swing” esp. when GE related that to Ben Hogan!

Gary Edwin has a lot to say about Ben Hogan’s swing in the members section of his web site. Worth paying $30 to join and find out more if you are interested. Unlike other web sites once you join you can download over 150 videos on various aspects of the golf swing. He also has many cool video’s of him coaching top name players including, Rod Pampling, Paul Gow, Gavin Coles, Jan Stephenson, Peter Senior and Scott Gardiner.

Nice work actually going to GE coach rather than trying to learn it yourself….good to see a GE follower back here.

So, seen as you threw those terms in, any chance you could explain them! I think I finally understand what setting up into yourself means, and setting up inverted and would like to learn more.

down and out…did ya get that?

Hi Toolish,

To understand the terms you really need to work with a GE teacher, but some understanding can be gained from the multitude of videos in the Members section of Gary’s web site. Even simple terms like “turn” have a unique explanation in the right sided swing. Correct turn is a product of correct body angles, and shoulder turn is the result of arm movement rather than any active participation of the shoulders. GE teachers don’t even talk about swing planes or lag, because all those things are a product of the maintenance of correct body angles. Power in the right-sided swing comes from leverage, which is something quite different than what is found in TGM. Gary uses examples like Bruce Lee’s one inch punch to explain it. Anyway, I am far from being an expert on the right side swing, and I hope you may find a few of these thoughts interesting :)

Novice,

If it is not in TGM it is not in any golf swing. Why? Because it deals with basic mechanics and every possibility. The science of physics and geometry. How you choose to misinterpret and misapply that information is up to you.

If you deal only with body angles, that is fine, but one fine day you will want more precision. That will not come from leaving out vital bits of information.

In the mean time, best of luck.

Grasshopper searched but did not comprehend the power of the force of nature no matter when it came from.

Sad such terms are not universal. I would have thought you would have been labeling them in terms all can understand with the use of the glossary:)

Gary Edwin, has some good stuff, even though he might be talking in different lingo to us, His mechanics will be in the golfmachine.
I had a Gary Edwin teacher on the K-vest his spine angle and hips measured up probably the best I have seen so far, but this is one guy, others could be different, But his Kinetic chain wasn’t all that great either he wasn’t fully compressing the ball properly and had a few power leaks.
Some of his stuff is usable

Yes, GE rocks!

GE places great emphasis on maintaining body angles in the swing, and makes for a very repeatable and powerful swing. If you get the body angles right and maintain them through the swing you can’t go wrong. Used to be a TGM guy, but the GE approach works much better for me now.

Edwin golf is a solid and good swing model and can be tracked down into a TGM stroke pattern. I have learnt a lot with how to communicate some point better Mr Edwins work.

Power in the right-sided swing comes from leverage, which is something quite different than what is found in TGM.

youre kidding right?
Leverage is the same as lag, your hands are the fulcrum, and when the club (the lever) allows the head to catch up, thats leverage.

just cos its called something else, doesnt mean it isnt found in TGM….

not that I have read any GE, but will go and educate myself.

Just read through the historical stuff.
Shame virges attachments arent there, he did some great stuff with vids.

This might sound funny but I learned nothing from TGM but because of it was able to learn everything sort of.

Edwin, Trevino, Moe or even some kid might say something and I could then make sense of it.

TGM was like a sketch that I had to colour in. The nice thing was, it was the whole sketch not my previous one third of a picture.

Now I study everyone, looking for more colour.

Have to agree there. None of us will ever know everything and that is a good thing in a way. Life is all about learning and the most important thing is, knowing when to say something or not say something.

Novice,

If it is not in TGM it is not in any golf swing. Why? Because it deals with basic mechanics and every possibility. The science of physics and geometry. How you choose to misinterpret and misapply that information is up to you.

If you deal only with body angles, that is fine, but one fine day you will want more precision. That will not come from leaving out vital bits of information.

In the mean time, best of luck.

An interesting point to note is that Gary Edwin was one of the first if not the only golf pro to purchase one of the first Sony cameras that allowed him to capture swings in slow motion. Hommer Kelly unfortunately had only his eyes to view swings. Since Hommer could not see what actually occured in top professionals swings, his analysis although scientific was limited. Gary on the other hand had the chance to disect the swing of top professionals, and identify what actually worked and what did not. Not that the right sided swing is the only way to swing a club, obviously left sided and a combination of a left and right sided swing can be effective, but in terms of the least moving parts a right sided swing wins hands down.
As for precision I think right sided swing players like Rod Pampling and Peter Senior are awfully precise, and have plenty of control over the ball. LOL … I have completely stopped thinking about a flat left wrist and hitting down, and now I can hit my 7 iron 140 meters and land the ball within a few meters of my target. With TGM I could barely hit the ball 100 meters. On the other hand I am sure TGM works for some people like Brian Gay, so I guess there are many ways to approach swinging a golf club and you just have to find the method that works best for you :)

I can’t imagine a golf swing where TGM isn’t at work. No matter the swing pattern, no matter the person…..it can be catagorized and understood through the definitions and the principles of The Golfing Machine.

Congratulations goes to GE. I was there when he received the Teacher of the Year Award a couple of years back in Collum. Peter Croker had a couple of hundred pros on tip toes in awe when he came out with his demonstrations of motion on the swivel disks at the same summit. Peter was just voted as Teacher of the Year in Victoria this year.

Peter had Paul Hart use TGM to analyse his swing pattern. I’m sure that Paul could do the same with GE, or anyone else’s way of moving the club. Why? Because it is all there in the book.

Novice, got to say that your comment of GE being one of the first pros if not the only to purchase one of the first Sony’s made me chuckle.

Anyway, I’m glad though that you have found your way to move that darn golf club regardless of the terminology! Congrats to you too.

Novice,

If it is not in TGM it is not in any golf swing. Why? Because it deals with basic mechanics and every possibility. The science of physics and geometry. How you choose to misinterpret and misapply that information is up to you.

If you deal only with body angles, that is fine, but one fine day you will want more precision. That will not come from leaving out vital bits of information.

In the mean time, best of luck.

An interesting point to note is that Gary Edwin was one of the first if not the only golf pro to purchase one of the first Sony cameras that allowed him to capture swings in slow motion. Homer Kelly unfortunately had only his eyes to view swings. Since Homer could not see what actually occurred in top professionals swings, his analysis although scientific was limited. Gary on the other hand had the chance to dissect the swing of top professionals, and identify what actually worked and what did not. Not that the right sided swing is the only way to swing a club, obviously left sided and a combination of a left and right sided swing can be effective, but in terms of the least moving parts a right sided swing wins hands down.
As for precision I think right sided swing players like Rod Pampling and Peter Senior are awfully precise, and have plenty of control over the ball. LOL … I have completely stopped thinking about a flat left wrist and hitting down, and now I can hit my 7 iron 140 meters and land the ball within a few meters of my target. With TGM I could barely hit the ball 100 meters. On the other hand I am sure TGM works for some people like Brian Gay, so I guess there are many ways to approach swinging a golf club and you just have to find the method that works best for you :)

Novice,

If you are going to shoot at my hero is it OK if I shoot at yours or at least correct some obvious errors in your story?