i can feel the pressure of the club on the trigger finger on the way to the top. however, at the top as the elbow moves towards down, i find it difficult to feel it or monitor it. the weight of the club has seemed to move it off. can someone explain if it’s lost or is just picked back up on the downswing, and approximately “where” on the downswing that pressure should again be felt?

b

Can you find it again after losing it? I can’t do that

There’s a good discussion in this thread that I found helpful tho

http://forums.iseekgolf.com...

ST

st,

thanks for the hookup. looks like the last page had much of what i was seeking.

to answer your question, no, i can’t really find it again, which was the basis for my questioning. i may have some misunderstanding, but it appears the pressure moves from behind the shaft during the load, to the top of the shaft (which is now facing the ground) at the end or horizontal to the ground, and therefore also moves down the finger toward the first knuckle nearest the hand instead of the middle knuckle where the side pressure would be felt. perhaps, then, i just need to monitor it there.

now, i think, if i have a weak single action grip, i can leave it there on the top of the shaft, or i if have a strong single it will return to the traditional place behind the shaft. clarify if need be, please.

so, now the question for the pros…which grip is better and why? is it important for me to refeel the pressure behind the shaft, or is leaving pp#3 on top of the shaft just as effective?

b

To feel, and maintain, the pressure against the forefinger, PP#3, the Swingers club shaft (forefinger) should be preceding the club head at all times in the down swing. Once this relationship is lost it cannot be regained.

A Hitter may apply pressure via PP#3 but a Swinger will only feel (monitor) any pressure that already exists.

A Swingers pressure felt via PP#3 is the result of the resistance to forces applied to the club shaft by the inertia of the club head – which changes direction, yet resists the change, on transition from back to down swing. Whilst ever the club head lags behind the club shaft PP#3 will feel, and monitor, this pressure.

Hitters provoke club head inertia by their rapid, muscular thrust on the inert club shaft at start down and continue its application via PP#3 but mostly via PP#1. Whilst ever a Hitters constant pressure (downward thrust) is being applied the club head will lag behind the club shaft and pressure on PP#3 will be felt.

st,

thanks for the hookup. looks like the last page had much of what i was seeking.

to answer your question, no, i can’t really find it again, which was the basis for my questioning. i may have some misunderstanding, but it appears the pressure moves from behind the shaft during the load, to the top of the shaft (which is now facing the ground) at the end or horizontal to the ground, and therefore also moves down the finger toward the first knuckle nearest the hand instead of the middle knuckle where the side pressure would be felt. perhaps, then, i just need to monitor it there.

now, i think, if i have a weak single action grip, i can leave it there on the top of the shaft, or i if have a strong single it will return to the traditional place behind the shaft. clarify if need be, please.

so, now the question for the pros…which grip is better and why? is it important for me to refeel the pressure behind the shaft, or is leaving pp#3 on top of the shaft just as effective?

b

i’d like to bump this for those returning from the holiday break, if that’s ok, regarding how the two types of grips differ with regard to pp#3 moving down toward the first knuckle at the end of the swing. thanks again for the help.

b

Could this be the reason I get a very sore left thumb (at the joint with the hand) after a game of golf? Too much left thumb/hand and not enough trigger finger/right hand?

i can feel the pressure of the club on the trigger finger on the way to the top. however, at the top as the elbow moves towards down, i find it difficult to feel it or monitor it. the weight of the club has seemed to move it off. can someone explain if it’s lost or is just picked back up on the downswing, and approximately “where” on the downswing that pressure should again be felt?

b

Firstly lets for a moment forget the type of grip being used and tackle the underlying question which is loss of lag pressure and how that is felt. If the head is lagging ‘behind us’ you will feel that trigger finger pressure at the start of the downswing -immediately. If you have any throw away or over the top casting motion the clubhead is no longer ‘behind’ you and so that lag pressure feel will be history.

For those with the yellow book, the rotated lag pressure point is in play for a swinger. Right at the top of the swing the pressure point has rotated from behind the shaft to under the shaft at parallel.

If you have a ‘bad’ grip structure, ie too loose for a full swing, then the grip alignments can shift and there goes the place the pressure point is being held to.

That may not directly answer your question TTS but I hope it is going to stirr the mind a little and I am sure The Dart will dip into this one too.

Burner, great reply. Shortstuff, I am with you in that once its gone its too late to get it back. Flinders post up a photo of your left hand grip. You should probably not get a sore hand where you describe.

Flinders post up a photo of your left hand grip. You should probably not get a sore hand where you describe.

Would you like a closeup of the hands at address?

I think my problem is that I’m very “left handish” with my swing, and all the various pressures seem to be on the left side, even though I’m a right hander. I think I pull the club with my left hand/arm/side rather than push with the right.

Actually make it 2. One at address and one at “impact fix”,,,ie how they look at impact.

A nice drill for feeling pressure, courtesy of Brian Manzella. Take your normal grip and then (for right handers) take your right thumb off the grip. Start with short pitch shots and work your way up to full swings, feeling the pressure load against your trigger finger and staying there all the way through the shot. It is a great feeling when it comes together, and for me felt very different from how I was used to playing (ie with no “mash” to the shot).

Even better, let it load against the first knuckle rather than the right index finger as a whole.

i can feel the pressure of the club on the trigger finger on the way to the top. however, at the top as the elbow moves towards down, i find it difficult to feel it or monitor it. the weight of the club has seemed to move it off. can someone explain if it’s lost or is just picked back up on the downswing, and approximately “where” on the downswing that pressure should again be felt?

b

TipTop,

Get this one sorted out before you get much older, it’s imperative.

The answer can be tricky and not much help if you can;t get your basic loading right. For example, someone loading on the downswing would load their armpit from the the top, not going back, that is grip pressure, then the last three fingers of left hand for wrist action and right knuckle for hand action last. But screw that.

You have to learn the simplest load with the simplest swing or hit if I had you and develop it over the years as your own understanding ramps up.

Do exactly as it says in the book. Throw the club against your hands on the backswing and make a straight line pull the arrow out of the quiver action instantly with the pivot. We call it a shoulder throw.

Then you have a good chance to slot it on the plane line you want and time the swivel to your specifications.

Keep it simple sweetheart. It’s just like whipping a ball with a stick.