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Pressure Points and Clubface Control
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Hi guys, getting used to the new style of the website…........still great info! Just wondering which Pressure Points you all use to gain Clubface Control during the swing? All input welcome, spike
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Hiya Spike, I prefer to control the face with the hinge action idea. Like closing a door from the ball to 45* past then roll on to the finish. I have used the trigger finger at the back of the shaft but that tended towards steering or pushing the face head and shaft towards the target. Golfers enemy number one. I learned clubface control as a kid, it was my “bright idea” for getting down to scratch. I thought the only reason I can’t shoot par is because the ball goes where ever it likes. I made three flags out of coat hangers and rag and put them at150 and hit draws and fades at them every day and in 6 months I was good enough to get to plus 2. ph
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Thanks for that, my man. Would have loved to been there watchin’ ya do it!!! Oh, wait, I was there many years after and enjoyed every minute of it…..not to mention the the grape!
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p.s., ph, What about pressure point #2 for horizontal hinge? Valid for clubface control?
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Hi Spike, I know what you mean, I have seen you using it and there is nothing wrong with that but Homer would have used #2 for club head control only. Just because he didn’t mention it doesn’t mean a thing when it works so well for you and yours. It would have meant a bigger book. What ever achieves the goal in the time you want is good. I would be the last one to cramp free thinking. If you can take his ideas and develop that’s good ph
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control the face with your mind first. tell yourself you want the face to face this angle before you start the swing back. when you’re executing the swing downwards, control the angle of the face using your combined grip. ROTATE is the key. rotation allows you to control the face without adding errors into your swing like digging in, or going fat or anything of that nature. good luck!
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Do I tell myself that with my eyes closed or open or does my mind tell myself and then it tells my hands or does my mind bypass myself and go straight to my hands as a combination of fingers and thumbs with palms and heel pads and knuckles and nails with a little hair to ROTATE without error? You’re right…......good luck, indeed!!!
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control the face with your mind first. tell yourself you want the face to face this angle before you start the swing back Use the force Luke (I mean Leonard). Mick
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MICK???? DF?????control the face with your mind first. tell yourself you want the face to face this angle before you start the swing back
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HAHAHA…... anyway, i was taught to practice aiming at a target to my left when i was supposed to point straight. the ball is in the exact same spot at address. practice empty swinging down and rotating normally. then try swinging down and rotating earlier. now try it with a ball.
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Glad you got the humor LL, thanks. Btw, are you a left hander or right?
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This is a key point….you have to know what it is you wish to be doing and therefore you have to learn the skills to be able to control the clubface. Left hands role.
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Pressure points don’t control the clubface. Pressure points are the points at which the accumulators apply there respective thrust to the club. Pressure point #1 is where the right hand applies thrust and extensor action – no clubface control. Pressure point #2 is the last 3 fingers of the left hand and is located behind the grip so the velocity of the releasing power accumulator drives the club forward on plane – no clubface control. Pressure point #3 is the fleshy point of the forefinger between the palm and first knuckle. This pressure point is thrusted at the ball by hitters but monitors the clubhead lag for swingers – no clubface control. The #4 accumulator is where your torso touches your left arm and your body turn accelerates your inert left arm through this point – no clubface control. However, the location of the #3 pressure point can control the clubface for hinging. With dual vertical hinging the pressure point is underneath the grip at the follow-through. With angled hinging it’s on side the grip and with dual horizontal hinging it’s on top the grip.
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Really?
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Great Post, mystery man! However, by using #1pp and #2pp in the backswing I can fan the clubface open creating major forearm rotation. I feel that by pre-programming the horizontal hinge (in my mind), I can use #2pp to achieve this goal. #1pp & #3pp just go along for the ride as a balance and support mechanism during the backswing, through impact zone (as a brace against any break down) and on up to finish. The feeling in both hands via the pressure points allows me to know where the clubface is at all times. This can be done automatically after manually studied. I understand your points and agree, it is just that, imho, am wondering if we can take it further?
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I would just like to add that #2 pressure point is located from the heel pad of the left hand down and around to the fingers (for right handers). The heel pad is for the backswing as it is more on top of the shaft and the fingers for release as they are more behind the shaft (as you said). Although, I feel there is a combination of fingers and heel pad for release.
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on the whole hinge action topic, something i’ve never really understood wondered if some experts could help me. Should a swinger intentionally try to execute a hinge action? Or should they just concentrate on dragging the club longitudinally with and inert left arm knowing that if they stay relaxed and do not exert force across the shaft a horizontal hinge will result? Cheers, Danny
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hahaha…... i like humor. i’m a right hander =) the right way to swing a club…... hahaha
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Danny, If you have to ask. Give most of your attention to an on plane horizontal hinge motion OR it will go the hell slowly. Uncocking the club is the half of the swing that everyone “gets”. The Door type hinge almost no one “gets” Knowing this won’t help either because you couldn’t believe how fast it has to happen. The only way to see how fast it is, is make yourself a small flail; two bits of wood and a 5 cm. tobolt join them. It is a feeling of flip, snap or flick roll, even when done quiet slowly. A whip crack type of motion. It impossible to time unless you are ripping your pivot through at the same rate. This is the action that most call stand up or coming off the ball. I would say Dicus Thrower action. Anything else is quitting and flipping. It is bloody hard work untill you get strong at it. Takes weeks to get strong enough at it. That is why people give up. Not many are into hard work especially when they all say it is supposed to be effortless power, which it will be one day. ph
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Thankyou Paul very eye opening post.
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“Hard work”. OK hands up teachers out there who have students who want you to hit the ball for them after a single lesson!!!! No hard work, and it is hard work to learn something new, means no pain no gain. The flail that PH mentions is a great way to show people….......club head rhythm with a Flat Left Wrist. No FLW and the flail just goes nowhere. Take that idea to a club, take 2 or 3 weeks off work, take Valium Beep, this is something that takes time to master. So did learning to drive your car.
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That flail idea is cool. I cheated and made one by tying a ribbon between my key fob and the handle on a pair of scissors, but I think it worked fine. The flat left wrist was fastest, with repeatable direction. The other way flopped around hideously. I could actually get it to go fairly well by bending the left wrist, but it had to be timed just right (perhaps after “impact”—I’m used to maintaining the FLW well after impact). My teacher has always said that if I let my wrists flop around, I don’t have any idea where the ball is going. This visual demonstration was worth 1000 words. Thanks, Guru.
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Interesting thing here is that when The Dart and I showed a workshop the flails and they had a go, that you could see glazed eyes at how the flail vs a club would work in the same principle. Once they had the flails zipping around and had learned the motion though it was interesting then to follow the “can you show me how to get that into my swing”. The occassions “Yeeharr” was heard down the range followed by “wow look at that pill go”. Lots of dirt flying around too of course but the lights were on and the incubators were warming up. The major light bulb was working out that your wrist is the nut and screw holding the flail together, your left arm, wrist and then the club as the 3 parts.
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