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Ok, I am a lousy putter. That said, I have recently discovered that my problem with putting probably origins from hitting the lower half of the ball, which is wrong. Although I know this is wrong, I cannot correct my problem unless I address the ball with the putter lifted slightly off the ground. So my question basically goes...How do you ensure that you hit the ball on the upper half with the putter grounded...cause I only seem to be able to do this with it lifted slightly off the ground. Help on drills or anything relevant would be nice. Thanks
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Which Idiot said that ?? You hit the bottom of the ball, that is why we have loft on the putter...
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I'm not quite sure how you come to that root cause, but anyway, playing the ball towards your front foot will help get the ball rolling smoothly (ie without backspin - if you actually were hitting the lower half) and may lead to more consistent distance vs effort putt to putt. Putters like the C-groove say they help in this regard (as does the Monza Corsa, etc). A golfing instructional DVD or lesson might put astray any misconceptions you have about your technique. I've found the Leadbetter series quite good. Several drills are shown there, like putting over a straight line to see if you are turning the face etc. However instruction is probably the best bet initially to rid you of any bad habits/technique you may already have. If not, it's confirmation your stroke is sound, so there's peace of mind either way! Good putting is damn damn hard. I'm not there yet either! Cheers, Kendrick
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Guys, Let get some facts straight. The ball launches off the putter face with backspin which quickly turns into top spin due to friction with the grass - Ralph Maltby did some great photography and so did Scotty Cameron YOU DO NOT TOP SPIN A PUTT. EVER. This is pure fantasy. Read some stuff by Dave Pelz, Scotty Cameron and Stan Utley. This is just plain fact, there is no immediate true roll, that depends on your stroke. there is some benefit from milled face but that is just to reduce friction. You need to read some decent research. You also do not hit UP on a putt, this just happens automatically. Pelz came up with 2 inches in front of the low point of your stroke is the best place. You guys need some facts, because otherwise you will spend your time looking for something that ain't there. Enjoy.
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do you mean 2 inches behind low point?
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Just confirming with the bible - it is 2 inches in front of the CENTER... my fault.
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Praise the lord
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Then you need to work out whether you start the ball on the intended line regularly. Improvement in this area will help you down the line in your ability to aim, and subsequently, reading putts well.
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this helped me lots... Keep your putter low to the ground thru the stroke it shouldnt rise up and stay at the sameish level throughout. easy cheap drill for good putting contact. get 2 rubber bands and put the on the putter near the toe and heel leaving a small gap in the middle on the sweat spot. if you dont hit it square the ball will come off really soft and on a crap line. hope it helps
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The arc of a circle doesn't have a flat spot so this won't work efficiently. Try swinging your driver so it doesn't come away from the ground wiz... the physics of a golf swing don't change no matter how big or small a swing is. Less manipulations should be the aim of any golf swing we make... not adding more.
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i didnt ask for a putting lesson i putt fine. i was trying to help a fellow iskeer. im not talking about swinging a driver im talking about a putting stroke. I never said to add manipulations willow. there is no substance to your post willow its just a statement without any help to the initial poster! a lot of people when they putt lift up through the stroke and follow through to waist height. this obviously shouldnt happen when putting. sounds to me like he could be rocking his shoulders instead of keeping them quite still and level. Good levels are something i assume you agree on willow? Its all about getting that ball to roll of the face square without the ball jumping or imparting spin on the putt. Drawing rings around your putts will help also mate. my first post in months and i get shot down straight away now you know i have been silent on the posting front!
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Vote Willow on this one. You can't swing a putter and keep it parallel to the ground for the entire length of it's travel without making some serious manipulation of the shoulders and/or arms. Likewise, you cannot keep the putter on a line parallel with the intended putt line for more than a brief instant (through impact) without some serious manipulation of the shoulders and/or arms. The idea that the putter moves on a horizontal plane parallel with the ground and a perfectly linear motion parallel with the intended putt line (or feet alignment) is a pure myth and causes a whole raft of problems with those that try to follow that theory.
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Haha shot down on first post in months...lol... ... Willow is right in the technical sense... This is a feel that a lot of people use tho... So long as u understand it's a feel... ... ... Otherwise you can get the hell outta here wizard...
j/k
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That feeling we are talking about might be the feeling of extensor action happening which will keep the putter on the arc and stop the putter coming up because we are either shortening our left arm or standing up. The putter always works on an arc though. Sorry wiz but if you are going to post crap like that you might as well have stayed silent.
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Disagree about difficulties and manipulations from a straight
stroke. I believe quite strongly that your arc putters require
more manipulations and luck to putt well.
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IMO the best way to improve your putting is to get a solid understanding of the fundamentals and then practice, practice, practice.
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Ok...coming to the Wizards rescue There are 3 ways of putting that I know of. Pendulum - The hands and arms are controlled by the shoulder motion with a very vertical rotation centered at the top of the spine. Extensor - This has the center more located at the left shoulder with the right arm doing the thrust. The Paint Brush - This is done through the pressure points of educated hands where the center is located more to the middle of the body. Pendulum tendency has the putter moving up in the backswing and up in the finish. Extensor tendendy has the putter moving up in the backswing and lower in the finish. Paint Brush tendency has the putter moving low in the backswing and low in the finish. All of these techniques have geometry and physics (mechanics). They have a sequence and a source of motion. None are incorrect when adhereing to their fundamental purposes. There is no question that a putt has an arc but it can also have a flat area. too. (Extensor and Paint Brush) After years of putting woes I finally gave up the pendulum and am currently using the Paint Brush Stroke. It is mechanically sound and once learned the feel is phenomenal. Just being popular doesn't mean it is the only way or even the best way.
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There are countless drills in magazines, web sites etc. that will help with your putting, but you will not improve if you don't devote the time to practice. Even putting balls down your hall carpet will help to improve your stoke, you just have to devote the time to it.
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What grip? Alignment of what? What is a standard ball
position?
Am interested in some slightly less vague answers...
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I did this over a year ago - I don't think much has changed. http://www.iseekgolf.com/fo... Enjoy
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go to WWW.PGA.COM Go to most popular videos and find the stan Utley: Swing of things This is a great little video about keys of putting. He has one of the best shortgames in the world. Notice how he teachs you to not use the rocking motion with your shoulders.
http://www.stanutleygolf.co... that
could be useful also and second link look at the photos how his shouler stay level and putter stays low.
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Sorry to say we are on opposing ends of the spectrum! What exactly has Stan achieved from a putting standpoint?? I know about the 6 putts in nine holes. I also know about the three wack from not very far that pretty much drew the curtain on his Nationwide career a couple of years ago. Who has he taught? Jay Haas.. Well yes. I would put to you that Jay Haas' greatest strength is his speed control. Jeff Sluman? Belly claw now. I'm going to go out on a limb here. Take the concepts that you believe most in, and then critique them. Critique the source, the technique, and especially critique the flowery prose inevitably associated with the concept. Then, if your concepts are strong, test them, and after a while you find whether things work and whether they can be added to putting, or full swing, lore.
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Mary,
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Have not read all this but all I can say is there's more than one way to roll it...
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