Hello,
Can anyone actually explain why hitting from the inside is so important for a powerful accurate shot?
I never needed to hit from the inside in baseball – or was I doing it without realizing it?
Thanks.

In baseball the hit is across the line from the outside. The ball is moving at speed and can be anywhere from the chest to the knees. In golf the ball is on the ground. To control a golf ball the strike has to be downwards. A downwards strike is always from inside. This is why alignment, the grip and technique are so important.

So could I surmise then from what you are saying, that the reason people loose distance in golf is because they swing across their bodies, because that is what they have been doing in all other sports and golf is unique in that one has to swing DOWN from the top, not across? It is after all, called a DOWNSWING I suppose!
So the feeling we need to be having from the top of the swing is a “down”, “under” and then “up” kind of action?
Seems like more teachers should be teaching this if I am making any sense – ha!

Yep that’s it, under and up, down and out. The chopper goes out and around, around and in; or inside and up, outside, down and inside.

Sorry, do you mean under and up in the downswing and down and out in the same downswing?
Why “out”? Why is out important – that doesn’t make any sense to me.
Thanks heaps!

The backswing is under and up, the down/ forward swing is down and out. The out is at the target. What’s not to understand. :lol:

Ha – sorry, I am just being honest!
The target is down the target line which is straight, so shouldn’t it be:

Under and up (backswing) and
down and up (down/forward swing).

I don’t understand what “out” means, sorry!

Trying not to be stupid even though I might sound like it!

Thanks.

The out means that the hands have to stay ahead of the golf ball for a downwards strike, which means that the lowest point in the swing is on the target side of the ball. In the downswing the clubhead follows the hands; post impact the hands follow the clubhead. To control a golf ball, the strike not only has to be hit hard but also for the longest possible time. To do this the clubhead has to follow the ball. This is the out – out at the target or out at the line of intended flight.

But what about the driver. That is on the upswing.

Depends on where you tee it in the swing arc.

Make a motion, the motion makes the shot.
Don’t hit the ball.

But what about the driver. That is on the upswing.

Practice swing divot is straight, actual swing divot is badly out to in

Yeah, I knew that was your next question. Those who state that the driver is hit on the upswing are probably referring to the hands moving upwards. This doesn’t mea n that the clubhead is moving upwards. I am not saying that it is not possible to hit the ball at the beginning of the upswing, it is, but to get the maximum benefit the handle is ahead of the head at impact. The out factor again. Trying to hit another ball 6” on the target side of the ball in play.

Okay, thanks.
I guess I’ll try drilling that out on the range and see if I can get some decent shots happening!
Cheers!

Cheers.

Interesting vocabulary, Razaar.

You don’t have a word for ‘away from center’, i.e. from the body to the ball?
And targetward, or toward the fairway is not ‘forward’?

May I suggest ‘out’ for away from the body and ‘in’ for toward the body and forward down the fairway?
That way we could say “down and out on the plane angle” and the result is that the ball goes forward.
Thus it becomes back, up and in; and down, out and through.
And we never try to go forward because we’ll lose the left wrist and pull or hook the ball, regardless?

And no, Danc you don’t hit under the ball in the downswing. You take the hands down and through. Forget the clubhead.

I leave that wording to you guys Loren. Most of the guys here wouldn’t know what away from centre meant or what the centre is. Forward is used down under in the context of opposite to back. Therefore for a flat arc past the ball position to keep the loft from increasing the word forward is appropriate.

You dont seem to have much regard for most of the guys here mentality ray,I hope i misread….lol

OK, Razaar.
Then centre was an unfortunate choice. I was leaving it ambiguous whether you want to use body centre or swing centre as it doesn’t make any difference.
Which way is the ball from the body?

The word I was looking for was ‘out’ which you’re using to mean forward.

(I know you walk forward down the fairway after your ball and I know you walk back to the tee when you find it out of bounds.) :-)

Mentality is different to golf speak, Brownie. At least I think they are different. How’s your mentality/golf speak? :-)

OK, Razaar.
The word I was looking for was ‘out’ which you’re using to mean forward.

“There is only one golf swing. It’s not a procedure. It’s simple geometry.” Homer Kelley,The Golfing Machine

LynnBlakeGolf

Loren, I only used the word forward once under the term down/ forward swing. My second post. I used the word out in my descriptions. Not quite sure what you are on about? Don’t worry mate we all have our senior moments. I have plenty.

A flat arc?
How?

Pronation of the left forearm past impact.

The … down/ forward swing is down and out. The out is at the target. What’s not to understand?

“At the target” is forward. So you’re using out to mean forward.

You accuse me of “having a senior moment”? :-)
I think not.

I’m sure you have plenty. Going back and changing posts is an indication of some type of “moment”.:-)

Yes, that’s the way I am. Insecure all the time.

Me too.:-)