I now see zenolink is a total player management system….a one stop shop. An interesting concept…how is the mental assessment done?

(Ps marry not merry)

I now see zenolink is a total player management system….a one stop shop. An interesting concept…how is the mental assessment done?

(Ps marry not merry)

We have professional sports shrink do the profiles, he is one of the best in the business.

We aren’t total player manager system at all maggie, the coaches who use our product/service most of them have a team in place, actually any decent coach worth their salt should. So do we.

All facets marry in with each other and you have to ensure they are all covered and taken care of. Mechanics or biomechanics is effected by our mental state, if people have mental issues it effects the rest of their game. Biomechanics can effect swing mechanics. The mechanics can affect the biomechanics. Physical limitations can effect both. Fitness, lack of fitness can lead to mental fatigue and physical fatigue, you swing suffers as a result.
You have to cover the full story not partial or the athlete won’t improve.

Smilsey is a little different although we can out source for him in other areas if required. I have a long list of top coaches, doctors, physios, fitness trainers, mental etc I can tap into and refer him to if required.

My field we train neuromechanics we are training both the brain and the body how to coordinate movement. I need to understand their learning style and their brain process in order to do my job effectively.

Our engineers are biomedical engineers, they can design MRI,CT machines etc. Our guys specialise in Biomechanics they design the force plate software, EMG software and biomechanics. If they wanted to they could even design ECG software as well.
We employ the best engineers to process 3D data.

Sure we can identify many things, because we use force plate, emg (measure muscular activity) and biomechanics. We can measure the entire human body, the club and the planes the club move in as well.

Coaches, doctors, physios, fitness professionals around the world use our product/service to measure their athletes not just golf anything to do with human motion. We learn just as much off them as they learn from us.

We aren’t known that well in Australia and really isn’t my focus either. In comparison Australia is only a spec in the ocean to the rest of the world market. Go to US though and we are very well known and highly regarded.

wow, what a mouthful, very in depth i like it.

But the bit i dont get is that YOU yourself are giving mental, fitness and physical rehabilitation advice to customers, even on first screenings. So, this information is not being relayed by any engineers, qualified shrinks, qualified coaches or similar…..

Is that a part of zenolink, or just something you throw in there yourself when you screen a client?

wow, what a mouthful, very in depth i like it.

But the bit I dont get is that YOU yourself are giving mental, fitness and physical rehabilitation advice to customers, even on first screenings. So, this information is not being relayed by any engineers, qualified shrinks, qualified coaches or similar…..

Is that a part of zenolink, or just something you throw in there yourself when you screen a client?

“I work with retards, Those goofy bastards are about the best thing I’ve got going.” – Pat Healy – “There’s Something About Mary”

I never said that all at please go back and read the posts very careful and as I wrote: Once we get the data back we will have a road map what avenues Smilesy needs to take to reach his goal.

In the post above I wrote: Smilsey is a little different although we can out source for him in other areas if required. I have a long list of top coaches, doctors, physios, fitness trainers, mental etc I can tap into and refer him to if required.

I also wrote: We have professional sports shrink do the profiles, he is one of the best in the business.

I wrote that because I don’t know what he needs until I get his data back before we can assess what avenues he needs to take.

I have a long list of top coaches, doctors, physios, fitness trainers, mental etc I can tap into and refer him to if required.

zen
i think what hack is getting at is who decides the “if reqd” part.
i could be very wrong there
hell im all for getting better but at what cost?? quite obviously the amount of coin will be a factor, well for me it would be
im a tight arse
am curious to see the the outlay v the benefit
kiwi

My field we train neuromechanics we are training both the brain and the body how to coordinate movement. I need to understand their learning style and their brain process in order to do my job effectively.

This sounds facinating, neuro and bio mechanics….so you just provide the formulated tests, forward them on to assessors and you or an expert make recommendations based on the results? Thought it was just swing mechanics you did….

yep, its the 1 stop shop!!!

I have a long list of top coaches, doctors, physios, fitness trainers, mental etc I can tap into and refer him to if required.

zen
i think what hack is getting at is who decides the “if reqd” part.
i could be very wrong there
hell im all for getting better but at what cost?? quite obviously the amount of coin will be a factor, well for me it would be
im a tight arse
am curious to see the the outlay v the benefit
kiwi

Always Always stand behind when playing in Shreks group
hosel rockets are soooo un predictable

Kiwi,
What you have to weigh up, is it worth the investment. If you get the results it’s worth it.
An example I have a female European tour player I’m working with, her coach came to me and said Scotty, she has been going to a physio, being working out in the gym, has a mental coach and we have hit a brick wall. She keeps on getting the same back issues. He said I can’t improve her mechanics any further because the way she is moving is stopping me doing my job. Strengthening and conditioning isn’t resolving her issues and she isn’t gain distance.
We want to get her more distance resolve her back issues and improve her swing mechanics.
She was investing her money to improve and not improving.

We tested her and identified the root causes to her issues. She had a break down in her movement where her lower body was spinning out and put rotation force on her lower body. We found that she also had excessive left lateral bending and right lateral bending with her upper body causing hyper extension and compression on her spine. Her break down in her kinetic link and lower body mechanics was the root cause to her back issues and was effecting her swing mechanics.In addition having a break down in a kinetic link and not using the right muscles she wasn’t delivering all her speed and power at the point of impact. Because she had a power leak the speed and power she gained from the gym wasn’t utilised at impact, as a result never gained more distance. In actual fact this contributed to her back issues because she increase hips speed which put more rotation force on her spine.

As a team as I improved her kinetic link and improved her lower body mechanics she stopped spinning out and reducing her lateral bending, reduced putting force on her spine. The physio then could treat her and do his job. The power gained in the gym she is now starting to deliver at impact. By moving better by improving her coordination and kinetic link, her coach can improve her swing mechanics.

She no longer has back issues any more, she is gaining distance and her swing has improved as a result she has won twice on the European tour, this summer had won a pro-am, top 10 in Ladies 0pen, Top 30 in Australian Open, Top 3 in NZ open and recently won again another open. Now in the top 65 in the world.

It was a team effort to her success and every thing integrated together was the key to her success.
She invested in two test with us $150 each,including all the training involved. I don’t know what she paid the others and non of my business either. Although was it all worth the investment for her in the long run ? Yes.

Moral of the story is mate you need the full story to reach your success. Any professional worth their salt assesses all facets of the game because they know that all facets integrate together in order for their athlete to get results and reach their maximum potential.

I never know what avenues we need to take until I test some one, get the data back to give us a road map to avenues we need to take ensure the athletes get the results they want.
With us $150 is the starting point including their Progressive skill training program. Mental assessment or profiling by our sports shrink $50.

My field we train neuromechanics we are training both the brain and the body how to coordinate movement. I need to understand their learning style and their brain process in order to do my job effectively.

This sounds fascinating, neuro and bio mechanics….so you just provide the formulated tests, forward them on to assessors and you or an expert make recommendations based on the results? Thought it was just swing mechanics you did….

Xmaggiex,
The neuromechanics is part of biomechanics, the neural drive or nervous system sends signals or impulses to command the muscles to contract to move body segments.
In order to change a persons movement essentially you are retraining their brain sending signals and impulses to command the muscles . In order to change movement you have to train a new circuit to send signals or impulses to command the muscles to produce the new movement pattern. As you develop this circuit the pulses become faster.

As an example you start off with a basic movement you start off slow to develop a new circuit to send pulses to contract the muscles to coordinate this basic movement. As you repetitively do this basic movement around the circuit you start to develop Myelin. The Myelin develop sheaths which wraps around the circuit. The Myelin sheath it’s like fat, What the Myelin sheaths do is increase the charge to make the impulses or signals transmit faster.

When you can coordinate this movement slow , you slowly add speed to the movement so the brain can learn to transmit the pulses or signals faster, to tell the muscles to contract faster. As you repetitively do this pattern with a little more speed you develop more myelin which enables the brain to transmit signals at this speed to coordinate the basic movement pattern. When you achieve this you keep on adding speed to it until you can do at the speed specific to activity you are doing.
Once you have basic movement you then add more complex movement patterns to which ever activity you are learning.

A baby learning to roll, than sit up, then crawl, then stand up, then take slow steps and finally walk at full speed, then learns to run. In a nutshell same again learning small basic movements and add more complex movements and progression as they develop coordination and myelin.

As you can understand why the mental side is important to make sure our heads don’t get in the way of our development. You don’t want to conscious interfering with the automatic process.

I hope this all makes sense.

What we do is we test an athlete and we used force plates software to measure the interaction with the ground. We used EMG software which measures the muscles and biomechanics to measure the movement or movement patterns.
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The Progressive Skills training we custom built for each individual athlete again each exercise was researched and tested using force plates, emg and biomechanics software. So when we look at the data and see certain break downs we know what drills to give to them which will address that break down, retrain and develop a new pattern.
The same for the functional programs, the engineers tested certain gym exercises to find out what patterns they can train or what negative impacts they have. How can certain exercise either increase strength to increase power output of the muscles and also train certain movement patterns.
When we re-test, this tells us how people are progressing and the changes in movement, it also gives us a road map to what is the next phase of drills and exercises they need to keep on developing their new patterns.

Everything we do we research and test, the more people you test see patterns and trends for certain break downs, It’s like lower body mechanics there is three distinct breakdowns. From these certain break downs you see many different causes and effects how the rest of the body moves. Over 25 years of testing you have a mountain of data to cross reference to see patterns and trends. So when you test someone and see a certain pattern you know these set drills that we have researched and tested will address these breakdowns and develop new patterns of movement.

We know providing all the other facets are covered and providing people doing their training as instructed they will improve and get results.
It has taken our engineers 25 years of research to develop what ZenoLink is today.

How’s Smilesy going then, progress report ?
Jon…

I am curious, Zen. If I came to you for a session/plan or whatever, what would actually happen? I don’t have all of these satellite professionals to refer stuff to or help with. So if I just came along as a solitary player interested to see what Zenolink could do, what would happen?

(sorry to hijack thread)

How’s Smilesy going then, progress report ?
Jon…

I’m going to do a blog post in the playing the game thread. So far its very early stages.

So far everything makes sense, and pretty much lines up with what I thought I needed to improve in my swing (too much lateral movement), I now understand more about why its happening. I’ve got a six week training program which us 7 exercises to do in order x10 each and 3 times through the circuit, 3 times a week. I did my first full session yesterday thinking it was going to be pretty easy, but buy the end I was really starting to sweat and feel my quads and abs.

I imagine its going to take a while to improve my swing mechanics, but there are never any quick fixes really. Hopefully after the 6 weeks I’ll be able to see an improvement.

good to see you open minded about it

here is a link to my playing the game post:
Smilesy’s journey to scratch and hopefully plus

I am curious, Zen. If I came to you for a session/plan or whatever, what would actually happen? I don’t have all of these satellite professionals to refer stuff to or help with. So if I just came along as a solitary player interested to see what Zenolink could do, what would happen?

(sorry to hijack thread)

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Degee,
Thank you for your interest :)
It all depends on what you would like to achieve with your golf and what your goals are to what plan and training program we create for you.
If you want more enjoyment out of your golf. We have to ask the question, what areas in our golf are we unhappy with? It could be inconsistency with ball striking, lack of accuracy, lack of distance.

Lets say the above is the areas your not happy with. Once we identify these areas, from here what we would do is do a ZenoLink test capturing your golfing to get back a 3D animation and report, to find out why you are inconstant, lack accuracy and lack distance. Once we find out why and what the root causes rare, we would then custom build a Progressive skills training program custom built specifically for you, which will improve those three areas.

The PST we custom build specific for you, trains your body how to coordinate the same repetitive movement patterns, the end result is you become more consistent.
Also by improving your coordination to produce the same movement patterns your rhythm and timing improves,. If we improve your rhythm and timing, this enables you to time when to square the club face up to hit the ball straight, there fore your accuracy improves.
For distance we train speed development we train your body how develop more speed as we improve your movement patterns.

Step1, Session 1: Is Test the golfer and go over a plan.
Step 2 : Engineers process data and Develop a training program custom built for golfer.
Step 3 Session 2: Go through the data and run through the PST training teaching the athlete how to perform and execute the training effectively.
Step 4: Session 3 a free follow to check over the training to ensure the golfer is performing them right and fine tune them.

Deege we tailor what we do specific to the golfer, it just depends on them and what they want to achieve. :)

Your welcome to come over and have a free chat any time Deege :)

smilesy, any updates for us?

Ive noticed that your handicap has more than doubled since around starting with zenolink.

are you still under scotts and zenolinks instruction or have you moved on?

this is a genuine question.

Yeah, my handicap has slipped out to 4 which is always disappointing, but I was kind of expecting it to slip out over winter while I’m working on things. I’m still working with Scott, actually had a good session with him yesterday, and did Zenolink test. Will be interesting to see how things have changed.

I’m at the in-between swings stage at the moment, half my shots are awesome, the other half not so much. In my last 4 rounds I haven’t had less than 4 birdies, which is much better than normal for me, but I’ve also had some really big blow out holes.

I’m definitely striking ball more consistently with my irons than I have before which is/was one of my major goals going into this. I’ve also gone from hitting a pretty aggressive draw to hitting a small fade which has really messed with my head, its just something I need to get used to.

My driver play has been a big issue, but I think I got that sorted with Scott yesterday. Again I’ve always drawn my drives, where now I’ve been hitting a fade, or more often than I’d like a big slice. It’s pretty much meant that I’ve been chipping out from trees or hacking from rough over half the time I pull the driver.

I’m also between clubs at the moment, and haven’t done any real short game work for a couple of months and that’s really hurting. I had 38 putts on Saturday and that was including 3 one putt birdies. I also can’t get up and down to save myself. Hopefully I’ll be accepted by a new club in the next couple of weeks and I can start working on that part of my game again.

Generally though I’m pretty happy with where I’m heading, I seem to have reduced my excessive slide quite a bit (I’ll wait to see the new data before I’m certain), and I’m making better contact with my irons. I’m not really going to be too bothered by my handicap until October or November when daylight savings kicks back in and I can start to get to the course a few times a week to do some decent short game work. I’m kind of hoping it will hit the anchor (7) then I’ll come flying back in and I’ll win some comps.

great stuff mate, keep us updated with your continued progress…..