Hi All,
I’m looking for a coach around Cranbourne/Frankston area (though willing to travel a bit) who does lessons inside and in the evening. Due to work I generally can’t get anywhere until 6pm in the evening and over winter it is dark by then. I’m currently playing off 2 but aiming to get to scratch. I’m mainly self-taught, but have hit a wall and really don’t know what I should be working on anymore.
Cheers

Smilesy,

There is no one there who can teach at all ;)

If you got to two – you only have to do what you did 10% better. The trouble could be, you don’t know how you got to two.

I am sure the Iseek boys will fill you in.

Smilesy,

There is no one there who can teach at all ;)

If you got to two – you only have to do what you did 10% better. The trouble could be, you don’t know how you got to two.

I am sure the Iseek boys will fill you in.

For tuition in Sydney call Paul Hart (TheDart) 0412 070 820.

Terry Hill’s, St. Michael’s or Duntryleague Golf Club Orange

That’s exactly the problem, I have no idea what I’m doing or how the hell I’ve got to two. I reckon I must be the worst ball striking 2hc ever.

Smilesy,
I can help you out, I’m located in your area.
drop us an email we can chat further which areas you are in search of imporving.

Smilesy,

There is no one there who can teach at all ;)

If you got to two – you only have to do what you did 10% better. The trouble could be, you don’t know how you got to two.

I am sure the Iseek boys will fill you in.

For tuition in Sydney call Paul Hart (TheDart) 0412 070 820.

Terry Hill’s, St. Michael’s or Duntryleague Golf Club Orange

That’s exactly the problem, I have no idea what I’m doing or how the hell I’ve got to two. I reckon I must be the worst ball striking 2hc ever.

“Talking to a golf ball won’t do you any good. Unless you do it while your opponent is teeing off.” -Bruce Lansky

“The Coach, Garth” is in your general area. I’d give him a call and have a chat with him. He is a AAA certified PGA member with a great ISG CV. He has helped quite afew on the forum and is building up a large stable of players/students.

I wouldn’t muck around with the methodology type ( Plumber and Bennett ) or the computer data driven geeks ( Kvest and the like )
stick with a tried and true, ridgee didge, accredited coach.

He works out of 3 different practise facilities, Sandringham driving range is a main stay. He has just been appointed head coach of the Elite Golfers Foundation, based at Long Island and Settlers Run.
He gets my vote !
Jon…

Garth is my coach smilesy.
fantastic coach.

Thanks for the replies. I’m going to go and see Scott and do a Zenolink program.

Thanks for the replies. I’m going to go and see Scott and do a Zenolink program.

“Talking to a golf ball won’t do you any good. Unless you do it while your opponent is teeing off.” -Bruce Lansky

as a 2 marker and at a level we all aspire to get to maybe you should do a blog in the “playing the game threads”
include the costs, time you spend, results, handicap changes etc

:D

I am one also who backs jon and kiwi, go see a proper golf coach who knows his stuff…..

MGA is open till late, hit balls outside with a PGA coach

I was definitely thinking off going to MGA, they were the only place open at night that I could find anyway near me.

If things don’t work out for me with the Zenolink approach I will probably go there. I’m pretty keen to give it a go try first though, I’m a bit of a closet nerd and it really appeals to that side of me.

I’m happy to work on my swing as much as is needed, but I’ve never been able to have a lesson with a coach and come away thinking that it all made sense to me. I’m hoping a different approach may work for me.

totally cool mate good luck with it, nothing wrong with exploring all options….

If you search zenolink on ISG and check out some of the threads, you see how easy it is to get the hang of the terms and descriptions….

good luck!

and keep us posted…

Smilesy, I also think that it could be a different way to look at your golf.
I believe Zenolink is about video-ing your body movements and then giving you some exercises and drills to help your swing motions via muscular patterns and drills.
It’s computer driven and about data collecting, a theory.
Your initial post was simply directed towards a golf coach in your particular area, regarding lessons for you to improve.
Zenolink is “NOT” about golf lessons, be aware of the major differences – Golf coach vs Biomechanics, just sayin !
Jon…

Thanks for the heads up Jon. I’ve been doing a lot of reading about it in the last couple of days. From what I can tell it works best when you combine biomechanics training with normal swing coaching.

I’m seeing Scott on Monday and I’ll discuss this with him, its obviously not going to help my short game or the mental side of things where a traditional coach can help.

how did the big day go?

It wasn’t a date hack
Jeeese….

How’d the lesson on monday go Smilesy, tell us all what happened.
Jon…

very keen to hear of your lesson too….

He never came for a lesson because we don’t do lessons.
We test and train athletes movement and coordination, totally different kettle of fish.

Why would anyone respond knowing these aren’t geuine questions, any one can see there is intent behind it.

Sorry about the delay, I was golfing yesterday.

I thought Monday evening’s first session with Scott went well. As with all first sessions most of the time was spent talking about where I am now and where I want to get to. I was only expecting it to be half an hour, but I was there are just under two hours chatting away. Scott explained the process and theories behind Zenolink well and I have confidence that it will help my game going forward.

We covered pretty much everything you can think of in the game, including equipment and how it’s all meant to work, and how I may need to change things a bit if my swing changes, general golf fitness which is something I lack big time.

We also talked about the mental game quite a bit, and just by talking about it, it helped me yesterday think about things a bit more, which can be a major weakness of mine (I shot level par at Cranbourne in pretty poor conditions). He wants me a keep a journal of my games so hopefully we can start to see patterns in what I’m thinking and feeling when I play well and don’t play well. He is also getting me to start to keep some pretty detailed stats so I can work out where my strength and weaknesses are.

The actual capturing of the data (he had a couple of Casio hi speed cameras setup) only took about 10 minutes at most, and he has sent that off to the US to get analysed. He showed me a few examples of what I will get back and the sort of program that I may get to work on.

Hopefully the data will be back next week and then it will really all start.

He never came for a lesson because we don’t do lessons.
We test and train athletes movement and coordination, totally different kettle of fish.

Why would anyone respond knowing these aren’t geuine questions, any one can see there is intent behind it.

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well good to see that the OP is a decent guy and responded to our questions. Jesus you look at the world in a negative way scott. You get farther in life by not playing the victim.

Anyway, smiley great to hear it went well. There are certainly great benefits from zenolink and in this area scott is the one to be talking about it to.

I will be interested to see how you progress and what your results show.

please keep us updated as we are interested in how a low marker like yourself see’s the results.

Scott, no need for you to reply champ, we got this covered.

P.S great round yesterday, how was cranny looking, it’s normally always in good nic.

P.S great round yesterday, how was cranny looking, it’s normally always in good nic.

“I work with retards, Those goofy bastards are about the best thing I’ve got going.” – Pat Healy – “There’s Something About Mary”

Considering that it rained heavily all Monday night and Tuesday until about 3 the condition was amazing. There were a couple of bunkers full of water, but the greens and fairways were prefect. Really impressed.

yeah ive always liked it

Hackpro,
With better players it really depends what their issues are.
Basically before I test a golfer I got look at every facet of their game because everything integrates together.

When I test a player it gives every one a road map on what areas we need to focus on.
As an example if a player has a team in place Fitness trainer, physio or osteo, mental coach and swing coach etc.

When I get the data back I can go to the fitness trainer and say they lack core stability, glut activation etc these muscles are weak. I can give him a road map on areas we need to improve.

The physio etc, I can tell them what is causing injury issues, what areas, where they are getting compression of the spine, internal external rotation issues of legs, arms etc. This gives them a road map on area which need treating.

For the coach: I can identify how the biomechanics is effecting the swing mechanics and together as I improve their movement he fine tunes their mechanics. I have to understand how that coach teaches to merry in what we do with what they do. He understands what my training is doing so he can merry this into what he is doing.

Mental coach we need to implement what he is doing to merry the changes into the golfers mental game.

With Smilesy he’s a self taught player and a natural player. He has beautiful swing mechanics although his coordination of movement isn’t working as effective which effects his ball striking.
I want to keep him as natural as possible he doesn’t know how he swings it, he just does it and he doesn’t need to know. I want to keep him this way.
The reason I spent a few hours with him is I need to understand how he rolls. How he thinks, how he learns what his mental processes are. I gave him a journal which helps both himself and I understand what his thought patterns are.
Also if he loses his game he can go back to his journal and find his way again.

We are doing a mental assessment which helps us understand how he learns and what his style and traits are. This is very important to his development.

For Smilesy to get maximum results I have to integrate the training to mesh is with his learning style, the feeling generated from developing the new patterns we need to integrate these into his swing so we have to mesh this into mental process.

We have to assess his equipment to make sure it’s right and keep an eye on it as well, because as he improves his equipment could change, these may need altering.

The stats he keeps tells us what area to focus on, to gain improvements or if we need to out source and send him to a short game coach or swing coach, mental, equipment issues etc. It also shows me if his ball striking is improving as well and over all game is improving.
If he needs to be outsourced for other areas I’ll find a person who is the best in that area which works in well with his learning process and meshes in with what we do so we are all on the same page to get the best results.

We do play and integral roll in his improvements although it’s the full story which is truly going to get him to scratch. If I improve his ball striking it’s no use if his mental game or short game lets him down. The end result would be a better ball striker and still off 2.

Once I get his data back this will give us a road map what avenues Smilesy needs to take to reach his goals.

thats great scott, sounds great on paper…..im hoping for smiley it works in real life…

so is that what zenolink is?

a mental and physical golf coaching system?

where you dont teach swing mechanics, but basically from your computers you can identify all his mental and physical issues and then best to train them?

or is that zenolink get the data etc, but your own side thing is coaching all the other aspects?

can i ask another question please?

which player (i assume 5-25 marker) has a osteo, phyiso mental and swing coach that they see?

most people dont have those?