Other than that, put in the work as suggested by HackPro. He ‘walks the talk’ and hits a mean ball (long and straight).

Damn you Old Bogey. I’m here for the quick fix. ;-)

But thanks for the circle tip, I never really thought of it that way. It makes what I’m setting up to do a little clearer, even if execution needs attention.

Thanks mate.
I’ve got a feeling I’ll never get to Brissy ever again after my only customer there ABB shut down.

I had a great inverter for my car, brilliant thing it was, but gave it away because I’m an idiot. Don’t suppose you know where I should head for another one? (Unless I am thinking of a different ABB).

Thanks mate.
I’ve got a feeling I’ll never get to Brissy ever again after my only customer there ABB shut down.

I had a great inverter for my car, brilliant thing it was, but gave it away because I’m an idiot. Don’t suppose you know where I should head for another one? (Unless I am thinking of a different ABB).

Regained most overrated golfer on this forum title at Inaugural National ISG event, Gold Coast September 2012.

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Handicap – bad attitude, poor dress sense.

Yep, different ABB. I deal in 22,000 volts

hack
that was an awesome reply for ben
did i say it right??

Thanks mate.
I’ve got a feeling I’ll never get to Brissy ever again after my only customer there ABB shut down.

I had a great inverter for my car, brilliant thing it was, but gave it away because I’m an idiot. Don’t suppose you know where I should head for another one? (Unless I am thinking of a different ABB).

Regained most overrated golfer on this forum title at Inaugural National ISG event, Gold Coast September 2012.

Self Annointed World Champion Forum Golf 4Ball Best Ball Team with Natnkyls – Still undefeated

Handicap – bad attitude, poor dress sense.

Yep, different ABB. I deal in 22,000 volts

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I agree the Audi was quick Place, but 22,000 volts?? you are kidding yourself!

Bump, just think how quick we can get to the ISG day in Melbourne though. I won’t have to listen to your rambling for very long at all, so its wins all round really….......

Is the flux capacitor fluxing?

Place has well and truly fluxed things up with this thread!!
:)

I dont know what to say.

So the forum is officially dead then?
I can’t wait for the bunch of 20+ handicappers that start giving advice.

I’m free tomorrow hack by the way.

danny DOT clarke AT me DOT com

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V_C, what do you want to know?

I dont know what to say.

So the forum is officially dead then?
I can’t wait for the bunch of 20+ handicappers that start giving advice.

I’m free tomorrow hack by the way.

danny DOT clarke AT me DOT com

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Worked that way for years. And since most of the signed up pros have left …

The system got changed when Foster, who can no longer do it but can teach it in a very practical manner, got into arguments with the appointed gods.

Perhaps I’ll send him an email and let him know the coast is clear.

Is the flux capacitor fluxing?

NAGA-free in 013.

Smoldy. Yeah.

The flux capacitor needs more than 22kV Marty, get with the program !

1.21 gigawatts i think it was.

Hacky …...... seeing as you’re open for business, I have a quick one for you (if that’s okay).

When hitting your cuts and draws, do you do anything different with your grip pressure?

Why I ask is that ….... I’ve found that by tightening up my top hand grip a touch, it delays the club release, thereby promoting a fade.

Going the opposite way, I know that for me to hit a draw, I need to have a pretty loose grip pressure in the top hand, in order to allow the clubface to close quicker as I rotate thru to impact.

Do you use that at all, or are your shaped shots controlled by club path alone, with a constant grip pressure for both shapes?

Your thoughts would be appreciated buddy ….....

The system got changed when Foster, who can no longer do it but can teach it in a very practical manner, got into arguments with the appointed gods.

Perhaps I’ll send him an email and let him know the coast is clear.

OldBogey

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OB
If anything, the Fos was the reason why the instruction section target pro only response to questions. Fos and me upsetting the TGM geometrics and the king of the kinetic link. Anyway it’s all water under the bridge – I do miss those days, but…..........

Hacky ……... seeing as you’re open for business, I have a quick one for you (if that’s okay).

When hitting your cuts and draws, do you do anything different with your grip pressure?

Why I ask is that ……. I’ve found that by tightening up my top hand grip a touch, it delays the club release, thereby promoting a fade.

Going the opposite way, I know that for me to hit a draw, I need to have a pretty loose grip pressure in the top hand, in order to allow the clubface to close quicker as I rotate thru to impact.

Do you use that at all, or are your shaped shots controlled by club path alone, with a constant grip pressure for both shapes?

Your thoughts would be appreciated buddy ……..

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hey gaz, for me no, I dont alter the pressure. but, your theory makes perfect sense to me. I can see the reasoning in your method, I will now experiment with your idea also (never stop learning this game)

I try and use a combination of both path and timing to alter my flight. Sometimes one or the other, but mostly both. For me, I find the “delay” of the hands the easiest to hit, over the “catchup”. Im prone to roll it to far. It can easily become a flip for me. The other result is a double cross, which is just nasty.

The easiest of the shape for me is to aim slightly left of the pin, put a normal swing on it and delay the hands a fraction, it will produce a baby fade (most times LOL). Im my game it’s purely mental, if im not in the right headspace, i cannot execute this correctly. Its a part of my game that lets me down. Im a confidence player and when im down im really down (trentham example).

But ive played through it and am now hitting the ball alot better off the tee. A work in progress for me.

I will let you know how your theory feels to me, im looking forward to trying it.

Thanks for that Hacky …...... really appreciate it buddy.

I think too, that with having a stock shot in particular ….... just having the intent is a good way to ensure that you end up with something close to the desired effect.

I find that if you set the intent for your stock shot, then a lot of the time, the body generally seems to know what it needs to do to accomodate the shot, without having to go getting the brain involved in the actual mechanics …. which I figure is always a good thing.

Just tell it to fade, and it shall be so, etc. Something that you being a confidence player would know all about.

spot on. again it comes to the mind and body connection. The mind will lead the body to where it needs to be.

spot on. again it comes to the mind and body connection. The mind will lead the body to where it needs to be.

“I work with retards, Those goofy bastards are about the best thing I’ve got going.” – Pat Healy – “There’s Something About Mary”

hAcK
That has been my experience. If I am not visualising and mentally feeling the shot shape then it doesn’t happen, regardless of how the body is set up. Visualisation is key in this game.

Hackpro,
Give this a try, sounds to me the flip is coming from the arms and hands rotating to fast and too early on the downswing.
I’ll give yoy three ideas to try and let us know how it goes.
At the start of your downswing swing slowly allow your arms and hands to rotate. See what the outcome is. Change to speeds or rotation and see what your outcomes are.

Idea 2: From start of downswing to hip high control arm and hand rotation. , (delay your hands). At hip high start rotating your hands. Play around with how fast you rotate them.

Idea 3 From From start of downswing to belt buckle(left hand reaches belt buckle) control arm and hand rotation.Rotate them slow as possible until your left hand reaches your belt buckle, then poor on the gas rotate your arms and hands as fast as possible, set what the out come is. Again play with the speed of rotation.

It’s great fun to do and you’ll learn a ton about what release suits your rhythm and timing best to shape the ball either way.

In technical terms this is known as ROC Rate of closure. The club face rotating back to square and beyond, the club face is always rotating and closing. What we can learn when to time the rate of closure when to square the face up at impact, slightly open or closed to work the ball.

spot on. again it comes to the mind and body connection. The mind will lead the body to where it needs to be.

“I work with retards, Those goofy bastards are about the best thing I’ve got going.” – Pat Healy – “There’s Something About Mary”

hAcK
That has been my experience. If I am not visualising and mentally feeling the shot shape then it doesn’t happen, regardless of how the body is set up. Visualisation is key in this game.

The man who hits at the ball rather than through it has no sense of rhythm.
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yep exactly…..there is a certain amount of will to produce what needs to be done

I played with a mate who suggested that to play a fade you just alter the postion of your hands on the grip to open the clubface and use the same swing.

Would assume that it’s vice versa for a draw.

Is this stupid?

I played with a mate who suggested that to play a fade you just alter the postion of your hands on the grip to open the clubface and use the same swing.

Would assume that it’s vice versa for a draw.

Is this stupid?

yep mofo
my coach has taught me this method, (for right handers)

fade – grip club in left hand, face slightly open, right hand on,
put club down with feet aiming at the ball start line
(where the ball flight starts)
face of club should now be aimed at intended target,
T the ball low to help it cut.
swing normal

draw – grip club in left hand, face slightly closed, right hand on
put club down with feet aiming at the ball start line (where the ball flight starts) face of the club should now be aimed at intended target
T the ball high to help it draw
swing normal

obviously the fade goes shorter

some experimenting may be needed to work out the amount you open or close the face to see how far you can move the ball

I played with a mate who suggested that to play a fade you just alter the postion of your hands on the grip to open the clubface and use the same swing.

Would assume that it’s vice versa for a draw.

Is this stupid?

yep mofo
my coach has taught me this method, (for right handers)

fade – grip club in left hand, face slightly open, right hand on,
put club down with feet aiming at the ball start line
(where the ball flight starts)
face of club should now be aimed at intended target,
T the ball low to help it cut.
swing normal

draw – grip club in left hand, face slightly closed, right hand on
put club down with feet aiming at the ball start line (where the ball flight starts) face of the club should now be aimed at intended target
T the ball high to help it draw
swing normal

obviously the fade goes shorter

some experimenting may be needed to work out the amount you open or close the face to see how far you can move the ball

If i was to start smoking
i think they would be oh i don’t know..
Vanilla flavored i reckon

Muzz,
Do you now this method has been proven to be a myth, that’s what all the hype is and they are banging on in the industry about old ball flight laws and D-plane.
The ball starts where the face points relative to path. It doesn’t matter where you aim your feet. You can slice a ball with a closed stance, you can draw a ball with an open stance.

I played with a mate who suggested that to play a fade you just alter the postion of your hands on the grip to open the clubface and use the same swing.

Would assume that it’s vice versa for a draw.

Is this stupid?

yep mofo
my coach has taught me this method, (for right handers)

fade – grip club in left hand, face slightly open, right hand on,
put club down with feet aiming at the ball start line
(where the ball flight starts)
face of club should now be aimed at intended target,
T the ball low to help it cut.
swing normal

draw – grip club in left hand, face slightly closed, right hand on
put club down with feet aiming at the ball start line (where the ball flight starts) face of the club should now be aimed at intended target
T the ball high to help it draw
swing normal

obviously the fade goes shorter

some experimenting may be needed to work out the amount you open or close the face to see how far you can move the ball

If i was to start smoking
i think they would be oh i don’t know..
Vanilla flavored i reckon

Muzz,
Do you now this method has been proven to be a myth, that’s what all the hype is and they are banging on in the industry about old ball flight laws and D-plane.
The ball starts where the face points relative to path. It doesn’t matter where you aim your feet. You can slice a ball with a closed stance, you can draw a ball with an open stance.

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i dont really care for
myths
flight laws
hype
Planes
grips
ground forces
open stances
closed stances

what i posted is what i was taught,
i posted it cos it works, i dont need to kn0w why
it’s simple & it works for me and im happy with that
ask russ how good my draw is now and who is longer

i really posted it for ben to try as i like the kiss system (keep it simple stupid)