I just stumbled on this and was entertained enough by it that I thought I’d share it with the forum. No doubt some of you may think negatively of what this guy is saying, but some of it sounds very familiar to what I read here:

Sevam1 knows Moe/Hogan’s secret?

There are a few videos, and they are far from professional (which isn’t always such a bad thing IMHO).

Oddly enough he talks a ton about weight positions, dictating club positions. And basically what I probably found the most interesting is this is probably the polar opposite of Weight Transfer discussion with Stack And Tilt guys.

If you’ve got some time, give it a look.

Thanks, Prot – very good stuff. He is spot on in his understanding of the Hogan move and the golf swing in general. Very, very close to the Balance Point model. As I and Lag both stated in another thread, there were many Hogan “secrets”, but on the physical side of the game, swinging in rock solid balance was his number one rule. He shared this with Knudson, Venturi, and Schlee and a few LPGA players as well, Julie Miller here in Portland was his closest protege the last decade or so of his life and she is still working on her Hogan book.

Svam1 in the video is mostly describing what we call Scissors Action, the inward bracing – he calls it corkscrew or clockwise pressure in the video – of the ankles, lower leg, knees and especially inside of thighs that allows you to swing in rock solid balance as your upper body Pivot is rotating rapidly. I especially liked his sharing that both Hogan and Moe Norman stated that the Pivot was the most important part of the golf swing.

I first noticed the secret he talks about watching Peter Senior hitting a long iron out of a bunker at Royal Melbourne in the 87 AO. The secret’s in the dirt, or in this case, in the sand.

We teach as part of twenty or so Setup elements a similar, if not the same, concept of his “corkscrewing” the feet/ankles. We call it Lower Body Brace: from a neutral knee start, bow both knees outwards just 1/4 inch, just enough to create a tiny outward pressure. Then – brace feet/ankles and lower legs inwards, maintaining the outer pressure in the knee somewhat. The inward pressure will take away most or even all of the “look” of 1/4 inch bowing knees – but the invisible pressure should still be there. Next – brace the inner thighs toward each other. Toe flare in feet should be 5-15 degrees in right toe – 5 for very flexible golfers, 10 for average, 15 for infl

Feels like for most of our students about 80% of the overall lower body pressure is inward bracing and only 20% in the knees outward bracing. Helps your balance a ton.

Advanced players who are flexible – one option to test is both knees pressuring to the left a tiny bit, ie slightly open knees and hips – 10 degrees open at the hip line. This pre-sets the spring like opposing lower/upper body tension Svam1 discusses and Hogan also talked about.

Thanks for posting that link Prot. I stumbled onto a couple sevam1’s youtube vids a little while ago. I thought he was interesting at the time, but his video mate put me right off with all his inane comments!.

Now that I have had another listen, a few switches have gone on for me!!

I have been struggling with the balance issue for a month or two now as I have been working on getting my pivot working. I have tended to have my weight balance on my front foot at take away (right foot as I am a lefty), as a precursor to having a strong brace for hitting through. This has worked to a point, but my accuracy is a bit variable and occasionally I have lost the swing in the backswing and hit behind the ball. My ball striking however has been very solid generally, so I have persisted, frustratingly. I have added probably 10 to 15% so far in my shot distance through a better pivot which has been my focus.

I just did a few imaginery swings and the wardrobe mirror tells me that I can get an additional 10 to 15% shoulder turn using the “in the dirt” rear foot plant that sevam1 describes. It also enables me to better splay my feet, which was another area I was struggling with the front foot plant I was using!

Now to practice the new plant!!

Cheers

Dave

By the way Sevam1 has his own website, and it appears he has written a book!

SEVAM1 Blog

I like his style, especially when his dog gets in the way. I just wish the guy holding the camera would shut up.

I loved the throw away at the end of the Trajectory Talk … ” if you’re ever duck hookin … hit it higher”. Classic.

wow, i like this guy a lot

will send my girlfriend to watch a few. i certainly could use some of that to power my leg chaining better, with boxing as well

cheers for the link

Prot and BPGS: Outstanding posts, thankyou.

Dave: thanks for the link.

This is, in part, what Bio was talking to me about :-)

With the Cricket looking to be heading to a SA walk over, I grabbed the clubs and hit the club practice range to try the swing moves as Sevam1 has described them.

I focused on four things;

1) the rear foot plant

2) Front arm turn (right in my case, as I am a lefty)

3) grip pressure

4) address posture

Lots, lots more work to do but WOW!!!!

After a short warm up I started with a 7 iron from 155 metres to the centre of the practice green. Normally I hit the 7i 130 to 140 metres, but I was hitting it at least another 10 metres today. I actually stood on a couple of swings and sailed them over the back of the green, 165metres to the back!!!

I felt the ball compressing, something I rarely have felt before.

I hit nice even clean divots, something I have rarely done before. It was probably also the reason I could feel the ball compress.

My shot dispersion was much tighter than it has been. I was sometimes pulling a little right, but not mishitting it. I think it is to do with my weight transfer to the front foot?!

I occasionally hit it a touch fat, but not always to the detriment of the shot interestingly.

The trajectory “tilt” was a cinch!, want to hit it high then just look at the hole in the sky, works a treat.!

The swing was so free and easy, hardly seemed any effort and so easy to repeat.

I then moved to 135 metres and hit about 60 8i shots. Very tight dispersion and even better divots. Less tendency to pull right.

Other points;

I hit 3 shanks during the afternoon, I suspect that I did not move my hip out of the way on the back swing.

I was hitting so many shots out of the middle of the club face, it felt so good. Because I was taking divots you could clearly see it in the grass stains/remnants left on the club face.

Really looking forward to playing a round tomorrow and seeing the difference in my shot making.

Cheers

Dave

with 25 vids up on youtube, it looks like I’ve got some watching to do..
From the first one or two though, and discounting the guys extreme home style conversational manner, it seems to me he has some solid information to share.

should they be viewed in any particular order?

Haven’t looked at them yet but they may keep me occupied during breaks in eating turkey and drinking over the next week!

should they be viewed in any particular order?

Not necessarily but chronological is easier (Ben Hogan Move 1 & 2 , then the Move 1 & 2)
I’m following Mike’s (aka Sevam) videos and posts since the beginning (june 2008). He , and Cameraman (his friend with “naîve” questions and comments, owner of labrador Casey ) are very pleasant guys. Sevam knows A LOT about golf swing and share very generousely. He is all execept self sufficient.
He is canadian and has met Moe Norman personnaly. For him Ben Hogan discovered his “secret” after his right foot slipped in the dirt in a play off at Olympic (1955) . This is the reason why Ben Hogan asked for more spikes under his right shoe.
The Move start from the ground (the “dirt”) with a pre set clockwise rotation of the right foot. This torque promote an automatic transition, very similar to VJ Trolio descrition (The missing link).
Apart from the fact that he has a very good swing, Sevam his a true Golf Game lover (not just DWP= Drive, Wedge, Put), appreciate old blades and remind me Lagpressure approach.
Very complementary with everything I enjoy on this site.

Ive watched a few of these now, and it seems to me that he must have filmed a few of them in one day..not sure of the seqence, but there is one on the movement of the navel that was filmed beforeone of the others, ‘cause he left the golf glove stuck in his belt that he put there for illustration.

I loved the throw away at the end of the Trajectory Talk … ” if you’re ever duck hookin … hit it higher”. Classic.

W,

Higher would be quitting and steering: lower, as strange as it may seem would delay release increase compression and hit it higher and straighter.

Duck hookin’ is quitting and rolling. Higher is qiutting and steering.

He should say storeage. If he knew.

Guys there is no secret here, homer says in the book 6-M-1, starts from the ground up.
If we are talking about the hogan move, mechanics isn’t going to give you the answers, to workout hogans move you have to understand human body motion or biomechanics. What hogan does isn’t unknown, maybe in the mechanics world, but in world of human body motion, this has been known and proven for 17 years.
Our team have been teaching the secret of in the dirt to tour players for 17 years. Go ask Greg norman, Ernie Els or even anthony kym. They will tell you hogans secret they do it themselves.
What this guy is talking about is the first steps to the kinetic link.
In 1991 the biomedical engineer who I understudy under, did a extensive research of The Secret Is In The Dirt. And did a case study on it, works if you are taught correctly, but is dangerous if you don’t do it right.
For over 12 months, I have tried to educate you about kinetic linking and always said 6-M-1 , but I’m glad this guy has created and interest he’s on the right track , half and half.

This stuff is fascinating.

Having tried it, I can say that it works and will also get you thinking – all seems to me to tie in with the right direction.

A lot of what he is talking about seems to me to be the essence of the golf swing and he’s also a very good communicator.

A huge advantage is that, because the guy doesn’t have to think too hard, or look at a book or bore the pants off you, the information is memorable and useable.

Well worth watching.

Anyone want to comment on hitting/swinging in terms of what he’s talking about?

Also – I don’t think there’s any ‘bad’ info there (experts?)

He’s a got a pretty good lag in his swing too !

Yeah – very good lag and he is not trying to create the lag, either – if you listen carefully. Lag comes from momentum.ie lateral weight shift during Transition while shoulders have about 10% more coil to finish, and from un-winding from the ground up -hips, belly and shoulders. Momentum creates Inertia or “lag” presssure throughout your body – from your feet to your fingers.

But – and it is a Big But – you will never create enough lag or sustain what you did create IF you succumb to the Hit Impulse and throw it away early in the downswing.

Here’s a fact for you – 100% of my 20 handicap and higher students and all beginners prior to instruction will succumb to the Hit Impulse during Transition – 100% of the time. I am talking brand new students of course – before we start to work with them. 75% of our 10-24 handicaps will throw it away during Transition, at least 75% of the time – the other 25% will throw it away later in the downswing. 75% of our 0-9 handicappers will throw it away just before impact.

What does that tell you? And – for 95% of these students, it is very much a demonic-like Impulse, ie it doesn’t usually go away quickly or easily. And we literally have over a 100 different drills, images, exercises and training aids we use to help them.

If your instructor has not introduced you to this concept at some point in a series of lessons – not necessarily right away – he or she is making a big mistake, in my opinion. Or – if you are going solo as it seems many of you are here on this forum – you would do well to work on this issue.

So where do you start to learn about this “In the dirt” stuff?

I’m currently doing the stack and tilt style swing, but I always look at the merits of any technique.

The trouble I’ve found when using the stack and tilt is that I still tend to slide my hips a round a bit. Which was the reason I went to this style of swing in the first place.

However, the shots still come out of the middle with good distance (7i = 160mt) without too much effort. Shortened swing, club doesn’t get near parallel and with my current MB blades I hit a nice high draw.

But I do like to open the stance and club face to hit a hard cut.
I love it, 1 or two bounces and stops.

“S”

this is the secret

S’s are everywhere:)

S’s are everywhere:)

Even in the right foot…

C’mon guys this is meant to be an open discussion not a chance to wink wink your knowledge to you other knowledgeable mates! Give it up, what do you mean by “S”?