Numerous drills were proposed to improve the sensation of the PP3. Lengthen the right index along the shaft. Bend it in hook, the pulp of the index on the shaft (Lynn Blake).
All these exercises are fundamental but are adapted mainly to chipping and putting.
Recently tools are proposed on the Internet, to work the PP3 on pitching and full swing.
For my 101 post (!) I suggest you today to built your own tool, adaptable to any club , and really inexpensive.
Try it and let me know

PP#3 practice tool

Love it!

Everyone have a look at this little puppy. So simple, yet so effective.

So this gives you a better feel for what the right index finger is doing through a swing? And what do you feel when you take it off for a comp game? Or am I missing something because I’ve not read the TGM principles?

Allows you to learn to feel lag and keep a shaft in a lagging state.

Once you know the feeling then you do not need the tool much. Phils idea is a cheap and cheerful good idea.

Thanks Phil,

That is better than using a $2:00 coin and cheaper. I tend to loose pressure on the finish sometimes.

So this gives you a better feel for what the right index finger is doing through a swing? And what do you feel when you take it off for a comp game? Or am I missing something because I’ve not read the TGM principles?

This is just a tool for practice, ad specially the practice range. It’s all about feeling, so it is a very individual choice.
For myself my first one was made of 3 old grip layers stuck= constant thickness Now I have many of them with differents thickness. You can also stack 2 layers (no glue necessary)
You can also make a 9 holes practice game , clipping it on your different clubs. It’ funny to see what happens when you are just putting all your feeling concentration in a so small body area…

Nice video Phil, it reminded me that I have an outstanding TGM question.
Where exactly is PP3?
The video and TGM both state “the first joint of the index finger” but the image points to what is anatomically known as the second joint.
The metacarpals are the bones in the hand. The “first joint” joins the metacarpals to the proximal phalanx, aka the first finger segment. The joint between the first and second segments is the proximal interphalangeal joint and is where I suspect Homer means as the location of PP3.
(Personally I think I’m able to better sense PP3 if the proximal phalanx contacts the shaft on plane)
Too pedantic?

Yes Matt too pedantic.
Feel the pressure in the finger where it contacts behind the club. IF you can feel it high on the finger close to our hand, good. If you cant, try extending your finger down the shaft so you can.

If you are good enough to have the finger pulled back against your middle finger and still feel the pressure, you would be creating some serious lag.

Not too pedantic, nore too semantic.
I have to agree with you both
Matt is asking “where exactly is PP3” wich is a very good question according to the importance of this point.
Spence is giving the very good answer : it’s wherever you feel the force on your right forefinger.
Generally , with a conventionnal grip (10-2-b= strong single action) the PP#3 is on the Aft side of the shaft.If your forefinger is making a hook you feel the force in the joint between 1st and 2d phalange).
In my personnal opinion (and non autorized..) 2 points are very important:
-PPoints concept is all about feeling. It is always difficult to teach feelings . This is the reason why so many images are used (Drag the wet mop/ dead dogs…)
-Homer Kelley made the choice to call them “Points” but it is more “Areas” (who can precisely and anatomically locate PP#4?). The concept is more important than anatomical investigations.

So, as said by Spence, it is your area contact. Don’t try to change your grip. Hope this can help.

I’m going to try this. A couple of elastic bands will make it much more portable.

Today I heard Homer say KNUCKLE for PP3 for the first time but as has been said it could be anywhere depending on the grip.

The knuckle is behind the life line. If you do grip it here it is a very ham fist ed grip BUT absolutly guarantees rhythm and right fore arm on plane. You must try it for a week or two to prevent you dieing stupid.

Today I heard Homer say KNUCKLE for PP3 for the first time but as has been said it could be anywhere depending on the grip.

The knuckle is behind the life line. If you do grip it here it is a very ham fist ed grip BUT absolutly guarantees rhythm and right fore arm on plane. You must try it for a week or two to prevent you dieing stupid.

Hi Dart – So the knuckle on the hand and not the first pad?

It looks like a knock off of the “pure ball stiker” that is sold on The Golfing Machine website.

Here is the youtube advertisement:

Link

Today I heard Homer say KNUCKLE for PP3 for the first time but as has been said it could be anywhere depending on the grip.

The knuckle is behind the life line. If you do grip it here it is a very ham fist ed grip BUT absolutly guarantees rhythm and right fore arm on plane. You must try it for a week or two to prevent you dieing stupid.

Hi Dart – So the knuckle on the hand and not the first pad?

Political Correctness is doctrine fostered by a delusional minority and by the media,which holds forth the proposition it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.

Ditty,

Every thing is optional. I would like to free up the thinking on golf not cramp it down.

Today I heard Homer say KNUCKLE for PP3 for the first time but as has been said it could be anywhere depending on the grip.

The knuckle is behind the life line. If you do grip it here it is a very ham fist ed grip BUT absolutly guarantees rhythm and right fore arm on plane. You must try it for a week or two to prevent you dieing stupid.

Hi Dart – So the knuckle on the hand and not the first pad?

Political Correctness is doctrine fostered by a delusional minority and by the media,which holds forth the proposition it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.

Ditty,

Every thing is optional. I would like to free up the thinking on golf not cramp it down.

so, horses for courses? what suits gets the guernsey?(!)

All that matters is that we go with the laws of nature, that is, constant pressure gives you constant acceleration – the ball is controlled by swing direction and when you turn your clubface therefore hands through square.

We can tell if we do this because the right results come along more easily and stay forever. Sure it takes practice to get the “touch for perfection” that is so illusive.

The trouble is when you come across something good is feels different and is interpreted as weird strange or wrong, not normal outstanding or criticise able. Time to evaluate priorities. First goal first, look good later.

Usually what feels stupid to you, is invisible to your “friends”.

Get a PP3 that works, No. 1.

Paul, I think you will have to explain the PP3 to me next time I see you, I still don’t really understand :-( I’ll post this here in case I forget to ask you.

It looks like a knock off of the “pure ball stiker” that is sold on The Golfing Machine website.

Here is the youtube advertisement:

Link

As I wrote in my first post
tools are proposed on the Internet, to work the PP3 on pitching and full swing.
Pure Ball Stricker is one of them, an most probably a very good one.
If you scroll through internet Golf sites you will find a lot of tricks shared. No plagiarism there, just the fun to share.
Impact bags are sold too on the Internet. I built mine 2 years ago for less than 10 dollars and use it almost daily. But this time I keep it secret ;-)

Pressure point 3 isn’t an applied force, more so a felt fource,The first knuckle of the right index finger(closest knuckle to palm) Treat this as a sensor feel the force of the shaft against your knuckle, once you try to apply force you lose the force

once you try to apply force you lose the force

There goes that penny dropping again – Thanks Paul

Impact bags are sold too on the Internet. I built mine 2 years ago for less than 10 dollars and use it almost daily. But this time I keep it secret ;-)

I’m french, but I treat myself…

Phil – Pic and measurements pleeeese? firie77 at y7mail . com

Jeff Evans is the man who has produced the Pure Strike device and he is going to be doing us an article on PP#3 at some point in time.
Top fellow.

Technically the first knuckle joint I got told is the palm/finger joint, not the first joint in the finger. Either way feeling the lag is a passive effort in where the finger feels the drag of the clubheads lag, the pulling of a mop across the floor, or towel tied to the clubhead in the downswing.

Apply force to this place and the right wrist will flatten out and all the lag gets spent before you get to the ball in a classic cat fight flip.

Paul, I think you will have to explain the PP3 to me next time I see you, I still don’t really understand :-( I’ll post this here in case I forget to ask you.

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Mr. C,

I think a lot of us “know about” what has to go on, sort of like “knowing about” how to drive a racing car. But we just have to stick with it ‘till we get good enough even if we fail miserably for a while.

The idea of uncocking and rolling on plane takes hours of practice before the mere thought of it produces reliable results. If you don’t learn this simple trick you will get beaten by the guys who have.

If you can’t feel the pace and length of swing through PP3 with certainty for every shot, stick with it ‘till it comes, there is no “other way” worth a dam.

Soon enough it all becomes comfortable and you realize that more precision is what make the difference.

Here is an extract of Ben Hogan’s video. He is teaching a friend his feeling of right hand pressure point
Hogan RH pressure point
All about feeling and driving…

Here is an extract of Ben Hogan’s video. He is teaching a friend his feeling of right hand pressure point
Hogan RH pressure point
All about feeling and driving…

I’m french, but I treat myself…

Isn’t that a great vid – tks Phil!
Nice to hear Ben Hogan talking too..