Continung my series of lessons, my pro now has me working on a better transition where the move im getting towards is one where I feel like leave the club pointing at the target as I bump my hips laterally and turn

When i’ve got this right im hitting it great but I tend to hit a lot of balls right this way. I have another lesson next week but as I continue to work at this, can anyone recommend some good drills etc to help me grain this in or explain why i might be pushing a lot of balls?

JoeShmoe,

The bumping the hips laterally while feeling you “leave arms at top” is a good way of getting a student to quickly improve their swing in 2 key ways.
1st way: It creates a little bit more torque forces in the body and helps increase the lag between the arms and club shaft. This can improve a pupils ability to hit crisper iron shots by helping the hands get further ahead of the ball at impact.
2nd way: It can help the right shoulder and club shaft to drop onto a flatter more “inside” plane. This can be of a great benefit if you used to be an “over the top” puller and slicer of the ball.

The 1st way can also mean the club face will square up “later” and if you are not used to this way of swinging will cause you to have the blade open at impact and push shots to the right (assuming you’re a right hander).

Stick at it, but understand that you must work with your coach to learn to deliver a lagging SQUARE club face and not an open one. The way you square it is up to you. A good one is to always feel your L knuckles are facing the ground through impact. This gurantees a squarer club face.

Good luck!

All your pro has you doing sounds good. The rights are a sign that nearly all is tied together. With a little more hand speed to catch up to the pivot speed you will feel magic and have the face rotating to square with them.

Pro love to see blocks to the right. It seems to justify their changes!

Dart gets a smile on is face when he sees them…half the changes needed are complete.

Just out of interest when I was practicing yesterday I found that having a downswing trigger of ‘turning the right hip into the ball’ whilst leaving the arms behind/club at target seemed to get my right shoulder really down and around and have me hitting (occasional) great shots as I groove it in. As opposed to more of a hip bump left – clubface seems squarer without having to manipulate the hands which the pro said was a big no-no – he mentioned Hogan had said something about this which I didnt catch (trying to take it all in!)

The impact position seems very different from my previous armsy swing .. almost like im hitting the ball with my right shoulder and im leaning/tilting much more with the hands in front of me. It feels like i’ll never hit the ball this way but I do !

The struggle is trusting to keep those arms at the top .. right now maybe one in 2 shots the arms go to with the old hit instinct and I hit big pulls but I guess i’ll have to work hard to ingrain that out

It is a new skill. It will take a little time to learn to trust it.

All your pro has you doing sounds good. The rights are a sign that nearly all is tied together. With a little more hand speed to catch up to the pivot speed you will feel magic and have the face rotating to square with them.

Just to clarify this should the feeling be like a lead hip bump up (right shoulder down) as the first move and then a release (straightening) of the right arm. Like a one-two move?

You have it correct. Eventually it will blend into a single feeling.
Many in an endeavor to get the hip to slide parallel to the plane line will sense the right hip goes AT the ball allowing the shoulder to drop down plane. By going AT the ball it kills the old spin the hips causing all the torso OTT motion. Infact while sensing it is going at the ball it will be going parallel.

You have it correct. Eventually it will blend into a single feeling.
Many in an endeavor to get the hip to slide parallel to the plane line will sense the right hip goes AT the ball allowing the shoulder to drop down plane. By going AT the ball it kills the old spin the hips causing all the torso OTT motion. Infact while sensing it is going at the ball it will be going parallel.

Thanks for that .. did some more practice this morning and whilst I can really feel me leaving the club behind as I start down Im still sliding the hips a bit too much I think as I bump them forward. Its just too agressive. The best resuIts I had was when I deliberately tried to ‘squat’ as I started down by feeling like I crunched my abs and drove my heels into the ground – this seemed to stop me sliding too much and I was hitting some really crisp shots

Once again thanks for all the advice

Howdy,

All sounds good, excuse me for asking, but, who is the pro? and where abouts? The things your pro is doing seems very good. Getitng the swing coming down and out through the ball is a massive battle for me, and I have never really had a pro able to teach it to me affectively. This site has been my best source of information for a while now.

Missing right is great. If your missing right over and over and over then you obviously swinging the club very consistently and then can just work on getting the club face in the right position, which, I am sure your pro will help you with.

Howdy,

All sounds good, excuse me for asking, but, who is the pro? and where abouts? The things your pro is doing seems very good. Getitng the swing coming down and out through the ball is a massive battle for me, and I have never really had a pro able to teach it to me affectively. This site has been my best source of information for a while now.

Missing right is great. If your missing right over and over and over then you obviously swinging the club very consistently and then can just work on getting the club face in the right position, which, I am sure your pro will help you with.

Srixon i-701 Tour irons are HERE!!!!!

Im in Scotland? Not sure if that helps? The weather here is as good as you see in the open right now!

My biggest problem is going with the arms in the downswing. This idea of ‘sitting down’ or squatting in the transition – while leaving the club and my shoulders pointing at the target – is really working for me and I can feel so much more zip as I must be creating lag for the first time ever. I seem to be pushing right sometimes but im getting there!

Does anyone else feel a squat in the downswing?

Yes definitely!! It is a power move that sets everything up to fire!

Slamming Sammy Snead!!

Joe: pop over to Belfast in early Oct with Styles.

Squatting is good but don’t go crazy on it. I have seen so many copy this move and squat as if to crap then go to sleep on the shitter.

If you see Sam swing you will get no impression of squatting because it happens so quickly and gently as to be invisible to the naked eye i.e. less than 1/30 sec.

What is to be emphasised is the move it is setting up and that is a push into the ground, left leg straightening usually, body standing up as in a Fosby Flop, squeezing a dim where the sun don’t shine, Hogans passing a 15lb. ball 15 feet. Like the swing got very heavy for the ball. The suddenly it comes to a quiet finish because all the juice is poured into the ball. God! what make the ball fly like that. Not God, but good mechanics.

They are to be had by all.

To update I had another lesson today and the pro basically told me my squat move at the transition was a compensation for lifting on the backswing. He had me feel as if I squatted more on the backswing, pushing my feet into the ground as I turned back so I felt more ‘sat down’ and coiled at the top. From here I could just ‘bump and hold the angles’. Felt like a turn with the shoulders and a push down with the feet

He also thought the pushes were because I had too wide a stance and was sliding. We narrowed the stance and immediately I felt more turn after I bumped as the left leg posted up faster

My bad shot was then a wipe to the left as I continue to battle the urge to go at it with my right arm. When I can just bump and leave the arms at the top so they get pulled down Im hitting the ball great. Its probably about 50/50 right now so I know i have to keep working to hold. The pro suggested a pre shot routine of 3 quick ‘pump drill’s’ with the feet together to grain in that bump and hold idea before each shot

JoeShmoe

Have a look at this video which promote the bump
The Bump