You can push it or pull it. Either is good.

Why don’t we all learn to aim right and pull/hook it into the fairway. Pull/hooking it into play adds greatly to the joy of golf and takes two weeks to get, to some degree. But it is nice to know you can do it.

I believe this shot is the birth of a real golf swing.

Why is that dart? Interested to hear why? And how would you recommend trying it?

Why is that dart? Interested to hear why? And how would you recommend trying it?

Ghetto train – get on it.
Bandit express.

Winner C grade OOM #3 Patterson River.

i can show you
unless you do riddles

Why is that dart? Interested to hear why? And how would you recommend trying it?

Ghetto train – get on it.
Bandit express.

Winner C grade OOM #3 Patterson River.

i can show you
unless you do riddles

some people are like clouds, when they do eventually piss off it’s suddenly nice and sunny

No good at riddles!

Why is that dart? Interested to hear why? And how would you recommend trying it?

Ghetto train – get on it.
Bandit express.

Winner C grade OOM #3 Patterson River.

i can show you
unless you do riddles

some people are like clouds, when they do eventually piss off it’s suddenly nice and sunny

No good at riddles!

Ghetto train – get on it.
Bandit express.

Winner C grade OOM #3 Patterson River.

See what Darty comes back with
if you dont get it i can show you at Karl lewis

Yeh cool Muzz.
I’ll hazard a guess and say aim right, flatten swing and more agressive wrist roll through impact.

Yeh cool Muzz.
I’ll hazard a guess and say aim right, flatten swing and more agressive wrist roll through impact.

ha hell no and stop guessing
roll pisser

Lol. Told ya no good at riddles!
Not nice to laugh at my limited knowledge hobbit.

Aim right, play the ball forward to allow for the club face to start shutting to promote the side spin.

Opposite for fades. Ball back a little in the stance.

Oh, still have no fecking inkling as to why the pull/hook is a good start to a good swing.

Aim right, play the ball forward to allow for the club face to start shutting to promote the side spin.

Opposite for fades. Ball back a little in the stance.

still guessing
& still wrong

Lol. Told you I suck at this. Will sit back and watch and wait and watch. Oh and maybe wait a little more.

Lol. Told you I suck at this. Will sit back and watch and wait and watch. Oh and maybe wait a little more.

& stop guessing too
dont for get that bit

Leo Getz – “okay, okay, okay – I geddit”

Leo Getz – “okay, okay, okay – I geddit”

:)

My miss is a pull/hook and although it is a crap result it feels good. The timing and weight at impact feels almost ideal; it just goes left. It’s as though my right side is strong and conpacted into imapct but for this to happen the left side must get out of the road – rotating left. Sometimes when I feel it happening I can compensate with my hands but tend to lose power. May have been Dart who suggested that I play for it which I have been trying – still really hard to set up right though.

Oh, still have no fecking inkling as to why the pull/hook is a good start to a good swing.

Ghetto train – get on it.
Bandit express.

Winner C grade OOM #3 Patterson River.

Me too. It is one shot I try to avoid like the plague. A push draw or pull fade are two shots worth mentioning.

If the ball goes left, at least the clubface made it to square. If the ball goes right, it never did… Easier to adjust shots that are beyond square than shots that never made it there.

Even a slice starts off left. That is where the clubface was. New ball flight laws. Clubface was left, swing was more left.

A draw has the clubface right because that is where the ball starts, the swing direction was just more right.

My miss is a pull/hook and although it is a crap result it feels good. The timing and weight at impact feels almost ideal; it just goes left. It’s as though my right side is strong and conpacted into imapct but for this to happen the left side must get out of the road – rotating left. Sometimes when I feel it happening I can compensate with my hands but tend to lose power. May have been Dart who suggested that I play for it which I have been trying – still really hard to set up right though.

“Where did THAT go?”

Alloverit,

You win the prize.

That pull/hook is a solid contact – now the difference between golfer and chopper comes in.

Aiming right is open to a push. Not many try that. By far the majority give away the solid strike and hold the face open and hit soft and short.

The guys who make it maintain their body alignment but change the swing direction. This is done by shortening the leg and body drive – stretch/shorten cycle – so as the swing can go before spinning out.

You can get the idea by hitting with the legs almost still but active and extracting the most out of the gut muscles.

TGM calls it 12-5-2 acquired motion.

whoosh
thats the sound that last post made when it went over my head!

What do you mean by “shortening the leg and body drive”

My miss is a pull/hook and although it is a crap result it feels good. The timing and weight at impact feels almost ideal; it just goes left. It’s as though my right side is strong and conpacted into imapct but for this to happen the left side must get out of the road – rotating left. Sometimes when I feel it happening I can compensate with my hands but tend to lose power. May have been Dart who suggested that I play for it which I have been trying – still really hard to set up right though.

“Where did THAT go?”

Alloverit,

You win the prize.

That pull/hook is a solid contact – now the difference between golfer and chopper comes in.

Aiming right is open to a push. Not many try that. By far the majority give away the solid strike and hold the face open and hit soft and short.

The guys who make it maintain their body alignment but change the swing direction. This is done by shortening the leg and body drive – stretch/shorten cycle – so as the swing can go before spinning out.

You can get the idea by hitting with the legs almost still but active and extracting the most out of the gut muscles.

TGM calls it 12-5-2 acquired motion.

For tuition in Sydney call Paul Hart (TheDart) 0412 070 820.

Terry Hill’s, St. Michael’s or Duntryleague Golf Club Orange

An official iseekgolf.com teaching panelist.

Wow thats some techmical stuff Dart but sounds exactly right in regard to my experience. When I am hitting it sweet and at my most natural it does feel as though the legs are quieter and the core is engaged and taking the load through impact (this does depend on how much fitness work I have been doing as well).
What I have messed around with in the past is trying to obtain bigger rotations and weight transferrence through legs, hips and shoulders in an attempt to gain distance and a more penetrating ball flight. I don’t hit a long ball – Driver 250m, Hybrid 3i 190, 5 iron 160m, 8 iron 135m, Pw 105m. And I have only recently come to the conclusion that it just doesn’t work for me, well not without the future guidance of a good coach and a stricter strengthening regime anyway.
I
tend to pick it up pretty quickly without the feel of a big wind-up to set at the top, transition with the hips slightly leading the elbows and hit with a steep downswing, balancing between trying to hold the left side from sliding out and at the same time clearing up and out enough to allow the arms through and the wrists to release. This is where my inconsistency of striking and accuracy comes from I believe.

Once again I have tried eliminating this by chasing the one plane path and a more pro-modelled swing without success; again without guidance. I think my startegy going forward is to go with my ‘natural’ swing and work on my core, leg and hip strength to gain those quieter yet stronger legs and consistently find that sweet timing spot that sends it where I want.

I am also currently on the hunt for a coach who can evaluate my swing and suggest any improvements and have put some feelers out there that I will follow up.

But it won’t be till next year at least as I am just on the way out of a stretch of not enjoying my golf due to messing around with those things I discussed. Have read Rotella’s book, bought Shoemakers awaiting to read and working on getting back to an instinct based approach and just enjoying the challenge of the game over summer after a wet, cold frustrating winter.

My acronym for the next few months is A.C.E:
Artist, Confident, Enjoyment and I have been using a little saying (don’t laugh!) on course, “I am an artist confidently enjoying plying his trade.”

Geez I can waffle, sorry about that.

My miss is a pull/hook and although it is a crap result it feels good. The timing and weight at impact feels almost ideal; it just goes left. It’s as though my right side is strong and conpacted into imapct but for this to happen the left side must get out of the road – rotating left. Sometimes when I feel it happening I can compensate with my hands but tend to lose power. May have been Dart who suggested that I play for it which I have been trying – still really hard to set up right though.

“Where did THAT go?”

Alloverit,

You win the prize.

That pull/hook is a solid contact – now the difference between golfer and chopper comes in.

Aiming right is open to a push. Not many try that. By far the majority give away the solid strike and hold the face open and hit soft and short.

The guys who make it maintain their body alignment but change the swing direction. This is done by shortening the leg and body drive – stretch/shorten cycle – so as the swing can go before spinning out.

You can get the idea by hitting with the legs almost still but active and extracting the most out of the gut muscles.

TGM calls it 12-5-2 acquired motion.

For tuition in Sydney call Paul Hart (TheDart) 0412 070 820.

Terry Hill’s, St. Michael’s or Duntryleague Golf Club Orange

An official iseekgolf.com teaching panelist.

Wow thats some techmical stuff Dart but sounds exactly right in regard to my experience. When I am hitting it sweet and at my most natural it does feel as though the legs are quieter and the core is engaged and taking the load through impact (this does depend on how much fitness work I have been doing as well).
What I have messed around with in the past is trying to obtain bigger rotations and weight transferrence through legs, hips and shoulders in an attempt to gain distance and a more penetrating ball flight. I don’t hit a long ball – Driver 250m, Hybrid 3i 190, 5 iron 160m, 8 iron 135m, Pw 105m. And I have only recently come to the conclusion that it just doesn’t work for me, well not without the future guidance of a good coach and a stricter strengthening regime anyway.
I
tend to pick it up pretty quickly without the feel of a big wind-up to set at the top, transition with the hips slightly leading the elbows and hit with a steep downswing, balancing between trying to hold the left side from sliding out and at the same time clearing up and out enough to allow the arms through and the wrists to release. This is where my inconsistency of striking and accuracy comes from I believe.

Once again I have tried eliminating this by chasing the one plane path and a more pro-modelled swing without success; again without guidance. I think my startegy going forward is to go with my ‘natural’ swing and work on my core, leg and hip strength to gain those quieter yet stronger legs and consistently find that sweet timing spot that sends it where I want.

I am also currently on the hunt for a coach who can evaluate my swing and suggest any improvements and have put some feelers out there that I will follow up.

But it won’t be till next year at least as I am just on the way out of a stretch of not enjoying my golf due to messing around with those things I discussed. Have read Rotella’s book, bought Shoemakers awaiting to read and working on getting back to an instinct based approach and just enjoying the challenge of the game over summer after a wet, cold frustrating winter.

My acronym for the next few months is A.C.E:
Artist, Confident, Enjoyment and I have been using a little saying (don’t laugh!) on course, “I am an artist confidently enjoying plying his trade.”

Geez I can waffle, sorry about that.

Oops sorry for the double-up.

whoosh
thats the sound that last post made when it went over my head!

i told you it would be a riddle

whoosh
thats the sound that last post made when it went over my head!

What do you mean by “shortening the leg and body drive”

Ghetto train – get on it.
Bandit express.

Winner C grade OOM #3 Patterson River.

I read it as just not having a larger more pronounced weight transferrence and wind-up, which is what i do. Just pretty much stand there and hit it.