GPJ, a question if I can? and it is a serious question.

If you had 1 long sentence that you could write about yourself about how you think you play on the golf course, what would it be? ie- describe your golf game into 1 long sentence.

Gaz,
Invest in your golf, get lessons and learn how to play the game properly it pays divots ends long term.

Yesterday I caught with Craig Parry at Albert Park. He did a clinic for every one. The first words that came out of Craig’s mouth was get yourself a great coach.
His comments were when I was younger I had no real lessons. Bruce Green show him the basics that was about it. Although he said when my golf really kicked off is when he was 17 and played in WA state team. He got full time coaching and taught HOW to train and practice properly. He was taught how to play game and learn how to play all the shots.
Craig hit’s 300 balls a day his words were 2 hours short game and 1 hour long game a day.
He said you want to get good practice, practice, practice and have a great coach.
Craig’s son is 17 and off scratch because he had a coach and also had his father guide him how to play the shots and play the game. How to practice properly etc. His son swings it pure to.

Yesterdays putting and short game clinics by Craig were really good he explained how to play all various shots and when to play them. (very simple approach). The people who attended learnt something. I enjoyed listening in it was great information, actually priceless to be honest.

Gaz here my 2 cents worth why waste your time out there playing blind and guessing what to do to improve.Why not get a guide who can teach you where to invest your time and energy to improve your game.

GPJ, a question if I can? and it is a serious question.

If you had 1 long sentence that you could write about yourself about how you think you play on the golf course, what would it be? ie- describe your golf game into 1 long sentence.

“I work with retards, Those goofy bastards are about the best thing I’ve got going.” – Pat Healy – “There’s Something About Mary”

My golf game – By GPJ (Good Luck reading that Hacky)

My golf game consists these days of trying to be sensible in how I play each hole, as opposed to that little voice from deep within, that used to whisper …... “just smash the little fecker” …. but it’s definitely sensible golf I try and play at all times these days …........ so that when I step up to the ball, I try to have assessed each shot fully and made sure it is within my capabilities …. so I’ve ticked off all the many boxes, lie, slope, elevation, wind effects, distance requirement, shape, aimpoint, landing zone, etc …...... and have come up with the right choices for the shot at hand, and its then just matter of me taking the club back and swinging the club thru confidently… which I find I can do without a single thought in my head ….. unlike some apparently….... however at times I can certainly hit one fat, or thin one, or pull one or push one etc …. just as easily as the next person, and again, at times I might absentmindedly skip ticking off one of those pesky boxes, which will cause me more annoyance as soon as I see the ball move in an unwanted direction .. and I realise what step I’ve missed … as I think I can deal with execution errors much better than “decision” type errors for some weird reason ….. possibly due to all the time we have to make our decisions that I’ve just gone and wasted by missing something …....... prior to that short burst of actual activity when I figure once my swings started I’ve pretty much given up control …. but I digress slightly …......... yet thankfully these days, I don’t really do that much harm to my game with my errors, in that I usually have some sort of recovery shot, or am just in a “not ideal” position instead of being “dead” someplace nasty ......... and then, once I get within about 130m or so though …..... my thoughts tend to focus directly onto the flag and in how best to get the ball close, if not in the hole …...... I’ll take into account any lurking danger and try to hit a shot that gives me the most room for error in terms of keeping the ball away from the trouble areas, but always with the intent of cosying the ball up to the flag …..... and in terms of shot selection, I’ll generally go for full shots every chance I can from that distance, but I won’t certainly discount playing ¾ swings on anything less than 100m out … cause I find I get just as much control in that regard, so these days I tend to play a lot of wedge shots with just a little bit of distance taken off them, which I am fairly consistent with …... and so onto my chipping and putting, and I’m putting a lot more work into them over the last couple of months …..... and I’ve found the Beacy in fact has a “practice green”, which I always used to think was just some place to hang around, whilst having a dart as you waited for your tee off time …. but now I’m hitting all sorts of clubs and shots around it . and really looking forward to getting on a green and giving my new putter its head …. in an overall playing sense though, I have no thoughts on my handicap, as I figure my aim is to make par on every hole at a minimum … I’ve certainly never stood on any tee and thought about making a bogey for my two points …... so for me, my game is about making par, and if I hit a bad one …........ the mindset is to get myself back in play and in good position, in order to put the next one close and one putt my way to my par …. so I guess in general my mindset is to play the course as it was intended to be played, and take whatever birdies come my way with a view to getting a lot closer on them these days.

Also Hacky, in thinking about my golf these days more deeply than before …...... I try to analyse my mistakes as and when they happen and look for patterns etc in order to prioritise and address them.

Gaz,
Invest in your golf, get lessons and learn how to play the game properly it pays divots ends long term.

Yesterday I caught with Craig Parry at Albert Park. He did a clinic for every one. The first words that came out of Craig’s mouth was get yourself a great coach.
His comments were when I was younger I had no real lessons. Bruce Green show him the basics that was about it. Although he said when my golf really kicked off is when he was 17 and played in WA state team. He got full time coaching and taught HOW to train and practice properly. He was taught how to play game and learn how to play all the shots.
Craig hit’s 300 balls a day his words were 2 hours short game and 1 hour long game a day.
He said you want to get good practice, practice, practice and have a great coach.
Craig’s son is 17 and off scratch because he had a coach and also had his father guide him how to play the shots and play the game. How to practice properly etc. His son swings it pure to.

Yesterdays putting and short game clinics by Craig were really good he explained how to play all various shots and when to play them. (very simple approach). The people who attended learnt something. I enjoyed listening in it was great information, actually priceless to be honest.

Gaz here my 2 cents worth why waste your time out there playing blind and guessing what to do to improve.Why not get a guide who can teach you where to invest your time and energy to improve your game.

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Scotty …....... good points.

Your two cents …...... is worth a lot more than that.

Will digest it all and talk to my local pro as a starting point.

Gaz,
Your local pro David is a great coach, he could play the game and still pretty handy today. He’s posted a few low numbers at Beacon Hills and quite often shoots a 67 around there.
David is always researching on becoming a better coach, always open minded to learning any thing new.
He’s a really smart guy, he knows how to coach and knows how to teach people how to play the game. A top bloke as well.

You would learn a great deal from David and I think he would help you tons. Tell him I said Hi, he’ll look after you :)

GPJ,

I think your stubbornness is a big asset. I don’t like working with people who are not resistant and argumentative. For one you know where they stand and when you have moved them.

Go for it with the best help you can afford.

For tuition in Sydney call Paul Hart (TheDart) 0412 070 820.

Terry Hill’s, St. Michael’s or Duntryleague Golf Club Orange

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Gotta love it! But seriously, chatting amongst our mates last wk, weve each had plenty of experience with coaches and 100% say theyll put 20-30 metres on yr drives etc and begin the instruction. Trouble the info is NEVER consistant, everyone says something different.

It is of serious concern, who do you belive? All of us had a coachinng credibility issue it appeared.( Thats why concept of tgm sounds great, uniform approach if i understand it correctly.) But, i like the idea of doing it yrself but i think a mentor is essential. Good luck with it!

The weird thing is almost everyone has the same basic fault but different ways of compensating for it.

TGM scribes and Zenolink shows in graphic form, very similar faults in almost all players.

Zenolink shows we all fail in sequencing and TGM describes clubhead throwaway/flipping as a result.

Tell me about it Dart.
I can feel myself throwing it away 70% of the time.

And I can look back down / across a fairway, and see someone throwing it away on every hole.

It’s a disease. I wish I never knew it existed.

For me, 4.

I played and practised everyday for years when I was younger, but could never get down to 3, no matter how hard I tried.

I had 2 lessons from 2 different pros back then but I didn’t get much out of it; I didn’t really click with them personally plus I was young and didn’t have much of a clue.

No kidding, I have been off either 4 or 5 for the last 22 years. (I did get out to 6 for a couple of weeks at one stage 10 or so years ago). Even though the amount of times I’d play in a year has varied greatly, I’m off either 4 or 5. Four is my wall.

3 or 4 years ago, however, I started to get quite frustrated with my game so I went and had a lesson off another pro who a friend recommended . I liked him a lot – he listened to me and gave me some valuable insight into my swing. Even though I’ve read and watched hundreds of instructional books and vision I realised I misunderstood some quite fundamental shit about the best way for me to hit a ball.

Anyway I committed to having a bunch of lessons off this guy and looked at him as my ‘coach’ rather than a golf pro. It’s the best thing (relative to golf) that I’ve ever done.

Of course just as I felt I was starting to hit my straps and post consistently better scores my wife falls pregnant and then we have another and now I hardly play at all (let me check – 4 comp games each of the last 2 years).

So I completely 100% back up what zenstb writes. I wish I had kept looking for a good teacher when I was younger and stuck with one.

I hope in a few years when the kids get a bit older I’ll play more again. But with what I’ve learned in those 15 or so lessons I’m confident that the frustrations I’ve had playing golf in the past will be way less frequent.

Ps even though I’ve only played 4 times this year I’ve finally got down to 3 for the first time ever! (but I gotta say with the new hcp system somehow it doesn’t feel quite right).

Treb,

Thanks for your story. It will help many.

Enjoy the family. It is more important. Get a coach for that too is my advise. It is a far more difficult game than golf and if you get it wrong it will cost you your house, wife and kids.

GPJ, a question if I can? and it is a serious question.

If you had 1 long sentence that you could write about yourself about how you think you play on the golf course, what would it be? ie- describe your golf game into 1 long sentence.

“I work with retards, Those goofy bastards are about the best thing I’ve got going.” – Pat Healy – “There’s Something About Mary”

My golf game – By GPJ (Good Luck reading that Hacky)

My golf game consists these days of trying to be sensible in how I play each hole, as opposed to that little voice from deep within, that used to whisper …… “just smash the little fecker” …. but it’s definitely sensible golf I try and play at all times these days ……..... so that when I step up to the ball, I try to have assessed each shot fully and made sure it is within my capabilities …. so I’ve ticked off all the many boxes, lie, slope, elevation, wind effects, distance requirement, shape, aimpoint, landing zone, etc ……... and have come up with the right choices for the shot at hand, and its then just matter of me taking the club back and swinging the club thru confidently… which I find I can do without a single thought in my head ….. unlike some apparently……. however at times I can certainly hit one fat, or thin one, or pull one or push one etc …. just as easily as the next person, and again, at times I might absentmindedly skip ticking off one of those pesky boxes, which will cause me more annoyance as soon as I see the ball move in an unwanted direction .. and I realise what step I’ve missed … as I think I can deal with execution errors much better than “decision” type errors for some weird reason ….. possibly due to all the time we have to make our decisions that I’ve just gone and wasted by missing something …….... prior to that short burst of actual activity when I figure once my swings started I’ve pretty much given up control …. but I digress slightly ……...... yet thankfully these days, I don’t really do that much harm to my game with my errors, in that I usually have some sort of recovery shot, or am just in a “not ideal” position instead of being “dead” someplace nasty …...... and then, once I get within about 130m or so though …….. my thoughts tend to focus directly onto the flag and in how best to get the ball close, if not in the hole ……... I’ll take into account any lurking danger and try to hit a shot that gives me the most room for error in terms of keeping the ball away from the trouble areas, but always with the intent of cosying the ball up to the flag …….. and in terms of shot selection, I’ll generally go for full shots every chance I can from that distance, but I won’t certainly discount playing ¾ swings on anything less than 100m out … cause I find I get just as much control in that regard, so these days I tend to play a lot of wedge shots with just a little bit of distance taken off them, which I am fairly consistent with …… and so onto my chipping and putting, and I’m putting a lot more work into them over the last couple of months …….. and I’ve found the Beacy in fact has a “practice green”, which I always used to think was just some place to hang around, whilst having a dart as you waited for your tee off time …. but now I’m hitting all sorts of clubs and shots around it . and really looking forward to getting on a green and giving my new putter its head …. in an overall playing sense though, I have no thoughts on my handicap, as I figure my aim is to make par on every hole at a minimum … I’ve certainly never stood on any tee and thought about making a bogey for my two points …… so for me, my game is about making par, and if I hit a bad one ……..... the mindset is to get myself back in play and in good position, in order to put the next one close and one putt my way to my par …. so I guess in general my mindset is to play the course as it was intended to be played, and take whatever birdies come my way with a view to getting a lot closer on them these days.

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Birdie – “The ball of many miles”,St. Andrews Beach 2011
Longdrive Champion – Growling Frog 2011, A Grade Waterford Valley 2012, Bendigo 2012.
Shot 69, using 68’s – 26/12/11.

Shit, I would have just gone with ’ I’m a chopper I need help’.

Ha …...... well he did say 1 long sentence, Deano.

Of course not being a post ho like some, I don’t mind being a tad verbose in the one single post, as opposed to some on here, who dole out words like they’re paying them off in installments, so that it takes you two pages to get the gist of what they are saying, only to find in the end, that they are actually engaged in having a conversation …....... with themselves.

Despite all of that though, your taciturn summation of my affliction …is pretty well correct in its diagnosis.

Thank you Doctor Cod ….........

Gaz,
Your local pro David is a great coach, he could play the game and still pretty handy today. He’s posted a few low numbers at Beacon Hills and quite often shoots a 67 around there.
David is always researching on becoming a better coach, always open minded to learning any thing new.
He’s a really smart guy, he knows how to coach and knows how to teach people how to play the game. A top bloke as well.

You would learn a great deal from David and I think he would help you tons. Tell him I said Hi, he’ll look after you :)

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I’ve just got to catch David at a time when he’s not busy, as we only ever seem to chat for a minute or so before one of us is heading off in the other direction …..... but I’ll have a word in his shell like and see what he can offer.

I guess another thing that has held me back from seeking out a coach in the past to be honest, (aside from my natural stubborness in refusing to seek help) ..... is my lack of interest in the really technical details of the golf swing.

I wouldn’t know one “power accumulator” from another, and aside from knowing that a “flat right wrist” is a desirable thing to have, I have felt, either rightly or wrongly in the past, that a coach would offer said instruction, from a very technical perspective.

For me, the game is all about “feel” rather than strict mechanics, so while I am probably doing some things right, (out of either dumb luck or some level of self awareness) ....... in trying to get my game to the next level, I have had a perception, that a coach would force me away from my natural inclination towards “feel”, and instruct me in the minute specific mechanics that I need to create ….... whilst trying to swing the club at 100mph.

To me, my golf swing just has a start, a middle and an end, and I have had in the past, a loathing to look at it too closely, as I figured I don’t swing it in slow motion, so how can I pick it apart, and control my hand position, or the plane angle to the split second etc?

For me, my ideal golf instruction would simply be to groove a repeatable swing without having to think about anything too technical, and to work out a couple of easy, no fuss steps that would get me from where I am today, towards having a more repeatable swing.

The other thing is, I want to play golf, and not play “golf swing” ........ so what I really need I guess is instruction on how to get the ball in the hole a little bit quicker ….. and not … how to look like a poster boy.

Once I get a repeatable full swing, (If I’m still alive) ...... then I figure I could probably work on the other more specialised shots that make up the game.

Hmm, I think the above, might just form the basis of my chat with my local pro …......

Treb,

Thanks for your story. It will help many.

Enjoy the family. It is more important. Get a coach for that too is my advise. It is a far more difficult game than golf and if you get it wrong it will cost you your house, wife and kids.

For tuition in Sydney call Paul Hart (TheDart) 0412 070 820.

Terry Hill’s, St. Michael’s or Duntryleague Golf Club Orange

An official iseekgolf.com teaching panelist.

Thanks Dart, I miss hitting golf balls but very much enjoy the family.

I’m lucky enough to have 1 or 2 great mentors family-wise, I count my blessings daily, sincerely Dart thanks for your words.

I guess another thing that has held me back from seeking out a coach in the past to be honest, (aside from my natural stubborness in refusing to seek help) ..... is my lack of interest in the really technical details of the golf swing.

I wouldn’t know one “power accumulator” from another, and aside from knowing that a “flat right wrist” is a desirable thing to have, I have felt, either rightly or wrongly in the past, that a coach would offer said instruction, from a very technical perspective.

For me, the game is all about “feel” rather than strict mechanics, so while I am probably doing some things right, (out of either dumb luck or some level of self awareness) ....... in trying to get my game to the next level, I have had a perception, that a coach would force me away from my natural inclination towards “feel”, and instruct me in the minute specific mechanics that I need to create ……. whilst trying to swing the club at 100mph.

To me, my golf swing just has a start, a middle and an end, and I have had in the past, a loathing to look at it too closely, as I figured I don’t swing it in slow motion, so how can I pick it apart, and control my hand position, or the plane angle to the split second etc?

For me, my ideal golf instruction would simply be to groove a repeatable swing without having to think about anything too technical, and to work out a couple of easy, no fuss steps that would get me from where I am today, towards having a more repeatable swing.

The other thing is, I want to play golf, and not play “golf swing” …..... so what I really need I guess is instruction on how to get the ball in the hole a little bit quicker ….. and not … how to look like a poster boy.

Once I get a repeatable full swing, (If I’m still alive) ...... then I figure I could probably work on the other more specialised shots that make up the game.

Hmm, I think the above, might just form the basis of my chat with my local pro ……...

http://www.golflink.com.au/...
Birdie – “The ball of many miles”,St. Andrews Beach 2011
Longdrive Champion – Growling Frog 2011, A Grade Waterford Valley 2012, Bendigo 2012.
Shot 69, using 68’s – 26/12/11.

No no a coach won’t necessarily get overly technical. If you feel like the pro you see isn’t listening to you or can’t work with you in your ‘mode’, try and find someone else who will.

It is such a good feeling when you work with someone and it ‘clicks’ or suddenly all makes sense, hitting a ball is a joy, the game becomes so much fun.

Yes I’m a strong believer that for most of us an objective eye saves so much time and frustration.

Once I get a repeatable full swing, (If I’m still alive) ...... then I figure I could probably work on the other more specialised shots that make up the game.

Hmm, I think the above, might just form the basis of my chat with my local pro ……...

Interesting Gaz. You know you are way ahead of me skill wise etc.
I was talking to a pro a couple of months back. Just a 30 minute chat.
I’ve never had a lesson with him.

He knows who my coach is and likes him.
And I was saying how there’s a bunch of shots I want to learn when I get better.
But he said “no, don’t think you can wait until everything is working well before you play specialised shots. You need to be learning them now”

Just another perspective.

GPJ, a question if I can? and it is a serious question.

If you had 1 long sentence that you could write about yourself about how you think you play on the golf course, what would it be? ie- describe your golf game into 1 long sentence.

“I work with retards, Those goofy bastards are about the best thing I’ve got going.” – Pat Healy – “There’s Something About Mary”

My golf game – By GPJ (Good Luck reading that Hacky)

My golf game consists these days of trying to be sensible in how I play each hole, as opposed to that little voice from deep within, that used to whisper …… “just smash the little fecker” …. but it’s definitely sensible golf I try and play at all times these days ……..... so that when I step up to the ball, I try to have assessed each shot fully and made sure it is within my capabilities …. so I’ve ticked off all the many boxes, lie, slope, elevation, wind effects, distance requirement, shape, aimpoint, landing zone, etc ……... and have come up with the right choices for the shot at hand, and its then just matter of me taking the club back and swinging the club thru confidently… which I find I can do without a single thought in my head ….. unlike some apparently……. however at times I can certainly hit one fat, or thin one, or pull one or push one etc …. just as easily as the next person, and again, at times I might absentmindedly skip ticking off one of those pesky boxes, which will cause me more annoyance as soon as I see the ball move in an unwanted direction .. and I realise what step I’ve missed … as I think I can deal with execution errors much better than “decision” type errors for some weird reason ….. possibly due to all the time we have to make our decisions that I’ve just gone and wasted by missing something …….... prior to that short burst of actual activity when I figure once my swings started I’ve pretty much given up control …. but I digress slightly ……...... yet thankfully these days, I don’t really do that much harm to my game with my errors, in that I usually have some sort of recovery shot, or am just in a “not ideal” position instead of being “dead” someplace nasty …...... and then, once I get within about 130m or so though …….. my thoughts tend to focus directly onto the flag and in how best to get the ball close, if not in the hole ……... I’ll take into account any lurking danger and try to hit a shot that gives me the most room for error in terms of keeping the ball away from the trouble areas, but always with the intent of cosying the ball up to the flag …….. and in terms of shot selection, I’ll generally go for full shots every chance I can from that distance, but I won’t certainly discount playing ¾ swings on anything less than 100m out … cause I find I get just as much control in that regard, so these days I tend to play a lot of wedge shots with just a little bit of distance taken off them, which I am fairly consistent with …… and so onto my chipping and putting, and I’m putting a lot more work into them over the last couple of months …….. and I’ve found the Beacy in fact has a “practice green”, which I always used to think was just some place to hang around, whilst having a dart as you waited for your tee off time …. but now I’m hitting all sorts of clubs and shots around it . and really looking forward to getting on a green and giving my new putter its head …. in an overall playing sense though, I have no thoughts on my handicap, as I figure my aim is to make par on every hole at a minimum … I’ve certainly never stood on any tee and thought about making a bogey for my two points …… so for me, my game is about making par, and if I hit a bad one ……..... the mindset is to get myself back in play and in good position, in order to put the next one close and one putt my way to my par …. so I guess in general my mindset is to play the course as it was intended to be played, and take whatever birdies come my way with a view to getting a lot closer on them these days.

http://www.golflink.com.au/...
Birdie – “The ball of many miles”,St. Andrews Beach 2011
Longdrive Champion – Growling Frog 2011, A Grade Waterford Valley 2012, Bendigo 2012.
Shot 69, using 68’s – 26/12/11.

thanks gaz…..

good insight there…..

i mwill post back when i get a chance

I was listening to a podcast the other day which in part dealt with how to choose a pro/coach. The pro they were talking to suggested that when you see a new pro you should be able to tell immediately that it is going to be good for your game or see immediate improvement. That is not to say that you will fix everything without further work, but if someone is the right coach, what they are saying to you should be making an impact on your game (in one way or another) from Day 1.

Now I don’t know if that is the best way to approach coaching, but it appealed to me. It seems that if you go to someone and are not convinced that it is making a difference to you, then you will remain unconvinced about the value of it and won’t take on his suggestions wholeheartedly.

I had this experience with getting properly fitted – I could immediately see that the different set up was having an effect on my impact, and the flight of the ball, so I felt super confident that I was doing the right thing and that the clubs were suited to me.

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Gaz,
I think the problematic issues with the golf industry is the wrong perceptions are getting put out there by golf magazines etc which have really damaged golf coaching.
There is more to being a golf coach than teaching mechanics it’s a small part of the equation. The biggest role is they are a mentor.

My coach is like a father to me and he treats me like his son. I have known him for over 20 years. He knows how I tick and knows how to guide me.
With me he rarely touches my swing mechanics unless something needs fine tuning again.
At present we are working on Short game, mental game, improving course management. We are working on adding more long game speciality shots to my bag.

My point is that there is so many facets to learn in golf and a good coach can teach you all of the facets. Not just one like swing mechanics. If he does get rid of him quick. Your coach should have a LONG term development plan for you.
As an example. I have a 4 year goal we are working towards I expect to peak in 4 years time to playing my best golf. In 12 months time I will be better than I am now, in the next 12months after that (2 years ) I will be better again.

Every year the tour players are working on improving 2% on average, to improve their game and improve their weaknesses. That’s why so many great players generally don’t win majors until they are in their 30’s. Tiger etc no difference he started at 2 years old it took 20 years of doing thousands upon thousands of hours until he won a major. To do this they all have a coach to guide them on how to achieve the above.

The truth is yeah there is a very rare minority who never had a lesson and make it etc. Although that’s bull dust as well. They learnt off some one some where along the track.
Bubba never had a lesson etc. Yeah a swing mechanics lesson he didn’t, although he had a college coach who guided him how to practice, train, how to improve course management, how to prepare yourself for tournaments etc.

Gaz have a heart to heart with David tell him what you expect from him, tell him what you like and don’t like. Tell him your goals and then you can both decide whether or not you guys are suited. If not keep on searching until you do. If you are suited great.

The relationship between the coach and player is a 2-way street, with an occasional roundabout. A coach should not only take you where you want to go, but also have a vision beyond that for where you can go. That way you can stretch your abilities to gain real improvement.

Gaz,
I think the problematic issues with the golf industry is the wrong perceptions are getting put out there by golf magazines etc which have really damaged golf coaching.
There is more to being a golf coach than teaching mechanics it’s a small part of the equation. The biggest role is they are a mentor.

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Scotty …...... A great point you make there about the “perception” of coaches that exist.

For some reason I have that perception, that they are focussed on mechanics, but as you say, a coach should be so much more than just a “golf swing” coach.

There is a hell of a lot more to the game than a “pretty swing” ....... otherwise the likes of Furyk and co would probably be off selling used cars for a living.

And yes, I’ll definitely catch up with David and have a chat to him.

The relationship between the coach and player is a 2-way street, with an occasional roundabout. A coach should not only take you where you want to go, but also have a vision beyond that for where you can go. That way you can stretch your abilities to gain real improvement.

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I’d agree with that Bob …. cause I think a good coach could get my handicap down by a couple of shots pretty quickly, just by sending me over to the practice green every time he saw me.

I think though that like Scotty said, to really improve and then to sustain that improvement …... it’s got to be those small incremental increases across the whole facet of the game ….. and not just a one off improvement in one area alone.

To do that though, and to work out what and where the improvement lies …. it would require that long term investment from both, and for the coach to eventually get a good understanding of how much improvement is possible in each area of your game (and not how much you yourself think).

I think that is when the improvement would really start to occur, once the coach really knows you’re game, and knows what is possible.

I think that I have currently, half the puzzle, as I have a good understanding of my game, but like my original query . “how low can I go” ........ I don’t have the expertise or knowledge to know what I am actually capable of in the game.