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I saw that, December 11 cranbourne
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In some early posts I was asked about what core bracing is, In this video it explains why core bracing is so imporant and the key roll it plays in the golf swing.This is video is also describes how club head speed is most efficiently created by releasing or “flinging” the club rather than by the arms through impact zone. And how core brace is a key component in the process of releasing the club
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G’day mate, Sorry bit slow on the uptake. Mate, I can full vouch for this, I have used an LDA 50” driver (48.25” traditional) and I have always felt “wrong” swinging these things. It is such a long lever to be trying to release effectively. I can definitely say a number of my technical and biomechanical breakdowns have been caused via this. At the end of the day mate, I see it as poor science. Yes an inch may produce 2mph of additional clubhead speed, but what are you losing in mechanical efficiency and I can tell you it is a ton harder to get the ball centred with good release angles. So what you pick up on the swings, you lose on the round about… It is not a case of strength either, Jason Zuback is one insanely strong individual. I am not exactly weak either, I have squatted and deadlifted more than double my body weight in the past. This length though is an external force that no amount of strength seems to overcome. The only guys I have seen successfully use such long drivers are guys who are generally well over the 6’3 to 6’5 range. Like in any sport there will always be a freakish talent that overcomes the general observations of the masses, but as a general rule, I definitely know my optimum length will be much shorter than I have used in the past. This training period I am starting short and working out slowly rather than racing to the longest and coming in. The interesting thing I notice is that baseballers create massive impact forces, how long is a baseball bat? 34-35”? Makes sense to be dynamically powerful rather than trying to add external power.
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AB,
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This is review about the X-factor, Chris Welch a biomedical engineer and leadinf research in biomechanics has come forward and explain the myth’s about X-factor this is an article he is referring to In this review of x-factor online today at Golf Digest/Fitness Friday, I would have gone way further than Ben Shear and Craig Davies did and say that under no circumstance (regardless of playing ability and/or athletic ability) should anyone EVER try to MANUFACTURE x-factor or separation between the pelvis and thoracic during the BACK SWING. It serves absolutely no purpose. The amount of separation created during the back swing is not important, the dynamics of core muscular loading are important. The dynamics of core loading include rate of stretch, line of action, response and rate of shorten and these all happen dynamically during the downswing. The manufacturing of separation or x-factor during the back swing only serves to do two things, neither of which are good. 1. put the body in a mechanically disadvantaged position – this negatively impacts the ability to change direction, sequence the kinetic link and puts the joints at higher risk of injury. 2. rob the muscles of the ability to create force by exceeding the natural optimal length tension ratio needed to shorten/contract in a ballistic way. Also, just like the amount of separation during the back swing is not important to performance, its not the amount of separation during the back swing that can contribute to increased loads on the joints of the spine. It is more the fact that in order to manufacture separation the body relinquishes connection to the ground and muscular tension which is necessary to maintain stability. When the muscles “relax” in order to accommodate greater separation, the support structure surrounding the spine is compromised, the joints are less stable… when the body then changes direction in this manufactured relaxed state and applies a significant amount of muscular force through the core the joints are at higher risk for injury. The thing to focus on is the initiation of the change of direction, NOT back swing separation. Separation and back swing “turn/rotation” will be dictated by your natural physical attributes including range of motion… if you change direction effectively and you will more effectively create power. In the article referenced above on xfactor – author Ron Kaspriske states “It’s hard to argue that the torque created by restricting your hip turn while allowing your shoulders to turn as far as they can will help generate a lot of speed and power in your swing.” The primary point of contention I have with this statement is that the body doesn’t coil up like a “big spring” in the back swing. Let’s use examples that get away from golf swing to hit the point home – if you were trying to teach someone how to jump higher, how much time would you spend on how deep their pre-load squat was? if this was the case then guys who wanted to jump the highest would bounce their butts off their calves before jumping… I don’t see too many NBA athletes or Olympic high jumpers doing that, right? the physiology in the golf swing is no different. Whether the lower body stays stationary or you allow it to rotate, whether the swing technique is stretched out and long or short and compact… it still boils down to the dynamics of the pre-load – shorten of the muscle or stretch-shorten. The amount of stretch becomes secondary is more a function of the dynamics and not manufactured separation.
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That is a great post you have written above there Zen, bang on the money. What a BS article…. My thoughts (as I have said before) 1. If X factoring was the definition of power EVERY female and junior golfer in the world would outdrive a male golfer. Females especially have a massive flexibility advantage over males, I am sure 90% could create bigger X factors than males. But they don’t hit it further, because muscular loading and contractile speed is the biggest contributor to power. 2. The shoulders are independant! They move independantly, they are not a unit. And the right shoulder will never move more than 30 degrees beyond the right hip. 3. Great first exercise recommendation, strengthen your EXTERNAL hip rotation and play sh*t golf for the rest of your life. Great players rotate internally into their hip joints, not externally to the hip joint. The second exercise has a high degree of awesomeness too, squat like that and you best be putting your name on the waiting list for hip and knee replacement surgury! How the hell do these guys get their positions as fitness gurus??? So not to spoil your thread mate, I will upload some videos to reiterate points 2 and 3 in AB Tees Off….
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Zen is Brian ferguson at the sunshine range? I thought I might tale ur advice and go see him for a fitting.
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DeepDivot,
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Thanks mate should I book in for club fit before or after mizzie demo day?
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Hi Zen, I sat on a table with Ian Triggs and John Senden as he is Johns coach and an absolute legend of golf training the other night at the PGA centenary dinner. He told me he has been using Bio mechanics since the 80’s!! Thought you might like to hear that!
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Played with someone who tried to get me into the coiled spring. Having played a sport where muscle dynamic was paramount I found it uncomfortable and not easy to replicate accurately.
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And not advisable on the backswing.
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I’d go before so you know what try out first.
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Jetset,
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Regards to point two the shoulders aren’t really rotating sure they internal and externally rotate. Really our spine is rotating, the shoulders. The shoulders as a function rotate around the axis of the spine. In our spine we have facets and each facet recruits a small amount of rotation going up the spine from L5 up to T1. If you do the math maximum if you are hyper mobile is around 70 degrees the shoulder rotate.
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Tom,
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It makes sense to me – now!
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Hi Iseek readers, Below is a video expalining the theoretical model of the kinetic link in how the human body facilitates and coordinates move, speed and power. Not only does this apply to golf also any other bat and ball sports. This is how the human body facilitates and coordinates movement. In this video I put forward the graph measuring a US tour player supporting the theoretical model using 3D biomechanics. To prove the theory was right they also used Force plate and EMG data which measures muscular activity. Over the years our company has tested and worked wiht more female and male tours players than any one on the planet. It’s funny we are always banging our head against the wall trying to educate the golf industry, what is it with golf and why do people think the swing is some mystery. When it’s not at all. The club is connected to the human body and there is a certain way our body is structured to move and function anatomically. The golf swing has to move with in these confinements or golfers get injured and also can’t swing a golf club very well at all. Hope you enjoy this video
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hey Scott the advice you gave GPJ a few weeks back about course management and good misses proved invaluable on the weekend. thanks and I think I have slowed doing spin outs when hitting
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Awesome Pars, glad the info helped you. The Presidents cup all week they spoke about being in the right positions and where the right and wrong spots are to miss. Royal Melbourne chews you up and spits you out if you have poor course management.
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Nice trophy PnB!!! And yes Scott …....... I too appreciate your advice re course management …... its starting to pay off. Hope all is going well for you at your new digs.
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Hi GP,
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Gp,
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Hi Scott, thanks for sharing the video analysis …. it’s nice to see a lefty going through his paces, and also, to have the charts explained once again. I think seeing the video and charts combined like that, could only help for the “penny to drop” and it makes both aspects of the analysis much more relatable to each other. Some very good work going on there!! As for your 3 wood …....... I reckon they are almost as hard to find as the right driver, and finding a decent one can be worth plenty to your golf game. (I’ve been through a few of them too) No doubt you’ll be giving it quite a workout around Kingswood, as I figure the course was built “of an era” where drivers of the day ….... would go about as far as your modern day 3 wood. (It should also be good for keeping them on the short suff at Long Island) I’ll look forward to taking the “grand tour” .... but for now, get back to doing your exercises buddy!!!
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