At my club, the two rules that are broken the most are 6-3a (players arrive at the tee late and don’t penalize themselves) and 12-2 (players fail to mark the ball before lifting).

Do others agree, or are there other candidates for the “most broken rule”?

Geezer.

Who fails to mark their ball before lifting? I have never seen that.

At my club the most boken rule would be:
20-7 – Playing from Wrong Place.

I’ll go so far as to say 90% of the players who take relief from an imovable obstruction fail to establish the nearest point of relief before taking a drop.
Many will drop within one club length of where the ball lies, often choosing the side with the “nicest” area in which to drop.

At my club the most boken rule would be:
20-7 – Playing from Wrong Place.

I’ll go so far as to say 90% of the players who take relief from an imovable obstruction fail to establish the nearest point of relief before taking a drop.
Many will drop within one club length of where the ball lies, often choosing the side with the “nicest” area in which to drop.

yep, radar….this is where they think NPR is “Nicest Place of Relief”...not “Nearest Point of Relief”

A rule which is constantly abused is taking more than 5 minutes to look for a ball. The sooner this rule is changed to 2 minutes the better.
Personally if I can’t find my ball in about a minute I’m over it….it’s either a wipe in stableford or I play my provisional siitting nicely out on the fairway. I can’t see the fun in trying to hack out of the scrub….but…that’s just me….

most broken rule at my club is they let women play there. second would guys botting smokes every week

Unacceptable comment.

Unacceptable comment.

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You think botting smokes is unacceptable, Deege?

most broken rule at my club is they let women play there. second would guys botting smokes every week

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At my club, the two rules that are broken the most are 6-3a (players arrive at the tee late and don’t penalize themselves) and 12-2 (players fail to mark the ball before lifting).

Do others agree, or are there other candidates for the “most broken rule”?

Geezer.

Geezer, the position of a ball which is to be lifted is to be marked if the ball is to be replaced. Therefore, if it is not being replaced, there is no need to mark the spot.

most broken rule at my club is they let women play there. second would guys botting smokes every week

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Cobra AMP Cell 3W 15.
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Titleist AP1 712 4 – GW.
Mizuno TP 54 & 56.
TM Penta TP5.

Hakman, if this is one of the women at your club, where’s the problem?

Who fails to mark their ball before lifting? I have never seen that.

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Me either. Are you talking about lifting the ball on the putting green or elsewhere on the course. If it’s elsewhere what are the players lifting their ball for – embedded, preferred lie (if in play), immovable obstruction or something else ?

My vote would be twofold around water hazards.

firstly would be “assuming” the ball is in the hazard if it is within a bulls roar and you can’t find it quickly

secondly would be dropping in the wrong spot to take relief. If i had a dollar for every person i saw try and drop along ” the line the ball travelled to get into the hazard” rather than a line from the point it crossed through the pin I would be able to buy a new driver!!

many times this is to their detriment so its not a matter of cheating, just ignorance of the rule

most broken rule at my club is they let women play there. second would guys botting smokes every week

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Hakman, if this is one of the women at your club, where’s the problem?

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She bots smokes too! So double rule breaker

Who fails to mark their ball before lifting? I have never seen that.

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Me either. Are you talking about lifting the ball on the putting green or elsewhere on the course. If it’s elsewhere what are the players lifting their ball for – embedded, preferred lie (if in play), immovable obstruction or something else ?

Runner up (with Mark Gibson), 3 legged race, North Ainslie Primary School athletics carnival, 1966.

As I mentioned in the original post – it’s rule 12-2 .

Geezer

Sorry, but 12-2 is not about lifting without marking in general, 12-2 is about identification of the ball.
If the player fails to mark the ball before lifting in a case where the ball is to be replaced, he incurs a penalty stroke under Rule 20-1/18-2a

• provisional ball rules
• lost ball
• movable obstructions
• NPR from immovable obs

...cos after all why would you need to do anything other than ‘play it where it lies’ if you are on the short grass.
...therefore eliminate all rough and you eliminate all (well, lots of) rules breaches

;-)

I think dropping at the nicest point of relief as opposed to the nearest point gets a fair run.

And no holes anywhere – holes with sand or water can be so annoying. Fill them up, remove the trees and bushes, cut the grass and paint a white line line around the course.

And get ready to play foot ball…

ah, yeah, kicking the ball into a better position gets a fair run too…

I think dropping at the nicest point of relief as opposed to the nearest point gets a fair run.

Definitely this… I also need to stop people from time to time dropping way outside of one club length.

Unplayable rule…generally but also with special ref to keeping ball in line with pin….eeekkkk!

It can be very difficult for some to go straight backwards into to rough when the fairway to the side is so very tempting..
Apart from that the Rule on an unplayable ball shouldn’t cause too much trouble?

Interestingly (or not?), apart from speed of play (see other thread), dropping for relief is probably the most common situation where tournament players seek a referee. Not because it is difficult but to make sure they get it right.

It can be very difficult for some to go straight backwards into to rough when the fairway to the side is so very tempting..
Apart from that the Rule on an unplayable ball shouldn’t cause too much trouble?

Hit it where they mow

Rough? Usually its in scrub or trees so they take the scenic route.
Fairways at all costs just like nicest point of relief.

Actually i see players every week changing their ball for no reason….i thought this was a breech? If so why is it ignored by so many players?