What comes 1st? clubs or lesson!

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Hi all.
i bought myself some cheap texan clubs last year tro see if i liked the game and i do.
I’ve started hitting the clubs alright, but after using someone elses clubs i hit them alot better, still just as many bad ones too though. but now am having trouble with my clubs
so i’ve decided to look into some lesson and better clubs, should i get the lessons 1st then choose my clubs or look for something that is an improvement and learn with them ?
cheers for any input

 

Get the lessons first. You’ll change your swing with the lessons so the clubs you like the feel of with your current swing might not be the same as the new swing.

The coach can also advise you on which type of clubs to get in terms of sole width, offset, length and even some different weights (if you’re lucky).

 

You will get any number of options thrown up in regard to this subject, but for my 2c worth, your last option sounds pretty reasonable. Ideally get them fitted as well.

The key to success is to learn to do something right, then do it right every time. Oh I wish.....

 

when starting do this…

Just go and play the game…yep dont practice at all just play the game and enjoy the pure pleasure of it…give that a go for say 2 months

youll need clubs first so get fitted if you can – if you can afford that process…...or just get some decent cavity back irons that are forgiving a 12 deg driver and say a couple of hybrids and away you go

after 2 months you’ll know a bit about the game, in that time read some golf magazines…that way at least you’ll learn some of the terminology that golf coaches will use..Like OTT like strong grip and hip turn and so on…also learn the rules if you can along the way too

after a couple of months go and practice your short game…then work towards hitting a few 9 irons and maybe some 7 irons….after you feel you can hit a straightish 7 iron then book a lesson…a half hour one first…

then listen and be sponge to as much info he’ll give you…

try and implement his or her recommendations even if it means going backwards before you go forwards….

most of all just keep enjoying the game….the more you enjoy it the more you’ll want to get better…sometimes trying to get better too quickly will only frustrate you no end and possibly turn you away from the game….its like relationships when you first start…you don’t ask her to marry you on the second date or get relationship counseling on the third date…you just enjoy the buzz factor of whats happening…golf is no different..i reckon for 64 or 5 months just play

in the end playing will always be more fun than serious stuff anyways

NOTE:...I’m married with 2 kids so you can still have the “serious stuff” and enjoy it…just takes time…golf is no different really

 

I have found that in the long run improving your golf game is a succession of club improvements and lessons.

I started off with a cheap set, then had lessons. Then I bought a quality set of second-hand clubs, which after a while I had re-shafted to suit my better swing (along with a re-grip).

More lessons and I bought my first set of totally new clubs. I had them fully fitted, and I wouldn’t do it any other way. Off-the-shelf clubs are a waste, and probably poorly put together. I’m now on my second set of new clubs, and have just had some more lessons!

This is a process that for me has been going on for over a decade. I’m pretty set on my clubs now, and won’t be spending any more until they literally wear out, like the first set of new ones did. I remember looking longingly at some very expensive new clubs in a golf shop not longer after I took up the game, and now realise that buying them would have been a total waste. I’m glad I didn’t.

Whatever your situation, I don’t think you can improve your golf by spending a lot at the beginning on clubs. You need to learn a better swing, but you also need to learn more about your game, and what is available in terms of clubs to suit it. Then you improve your clubs … not the other way round.

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http://www.trenthamgolf.com

 

Cheers Guys!!

G’day Dave_1 !
I been trying to play as much as i can since Oct last year, I’m no star but definately loving the game and a few beers after it, I just want to get a bit more consistant and that would do me for now. I can definately take the piss out of my self on the course so getting too serious is not a problem just yet, but I think the one thing i’ve found is maybe keep playing just 9 holes for a while as i can get a little frustrated near the end of 15 or so sometimes.

 

Cheers for info Publish, yeah i definately didn’t think clubs would put me straight on top of things, i think i will end up going for some lessons, can you reccomend anyone in southern syd area

 

How much money have you got to play with? Is $300 a serious kick in the groin, or something you could manage ok?

Reason I ask is that I recently picked up some secondhand sticks here in mint condition and from day one my ball flight and direction improved heaps. I was hitting my old clubs and new ones side by side and it was scary how much better the newbies were.

Technology is a great thing, there really is a huge difference between el cheapos and top clubs like Mizuno or my TMs, as long as you get something that is in the ballpark for your general swing characteristics. In 1-2 years time once your swing is retooled you could review your progress and get measured up properly.

People here are always upgrading their clubs so if you put up a “wanted to buy” in the classifieds here and let people know what sort of swing characteristics you have, i.e. how far you hit a 7iron, do you hit it high / low / hook / slice, etc. In general for an average guy a reg shaft with standard lie and loft is probably not going to be too far off the mark.

If you are not happy you can sell them on without too many dramas.

Reverse every natural instinct you have and do just the opposite of what you are inclined to do and you will probably come very close to having a perfect golf swing. - BEN HOGAN, POWER GOLF

 

$300 is o.k
1 of the reasons I thought I would post the subject is I was looking into lesson then I found out about club fitting for certain heights and how far you hit certain clubs.
But than I got stuck on the Lind Site custom fit and american site called rockbottom wich had plenty of new options in this price range as
But as you mentioned posting on here for clubs wanted seems like a good idea.
Its hard being a protagonist
cheers

 

I got clubs first, cheap $350 set, then read up everything I could on here and have since had three 18 hole rounds and four 9 hole rounds in which time i’ve never finished under 100 or hit a straight drive.

I had my first lesson recently well it was a golf clinic and the pro showed me a few key things I was doing wrong and i just got back from the range tonight putting into practise what i’ve learned and hit my short irons really well, 7-hybrid 3 fairly average and 3 wood and driver….. well you couldn’t wipe the grin of my face about 20 balls between them and 1 duffed shot nice and straight a couple had the smallest of fades and even got one over the 200 hundred sign, i’m not the biggest of hitters so that was huge.

Since you have a set of clubs already that your familiar with i’d get a lesson and see what happens. If there’s anything really wrong with your clubs ie length the pro will probably pick it up.

 

G’day Sarge
cheers mate, are you in syd by any chance? if so where are you getting lessons?

 

No sorry i’m in Brisbane, but I wish I was in Sydney cause then i’d be going to see The Dart

 

cheers for the link sarge, he is just near my work so that makes it easy

 

hi muntz, i noticed some Taylormade rac lt’s in the classifieds section, do you think something like that is over the top.

 

Not Muntz, but nope. Would suggest if they are the right fit for you, shaft length/flex etc, they are good value and excellent commencement/improvement clubs.

The key to success is to learn to do something right, then do it right every time. Oh I wish.....

 

well its taken me a while but i’ve checked nearly every page on the equipment section and found someone asking nearly exactly same question on the last page, i’ll learn to read b4 i shoot from now on.
so i’ve been given 1 good reccomendation for lessons in milperra, does anyone else have any coach’s they reccommend for for sth sydney area, or close!
and probably a spelling coach too.
cheers

 

cheers davego

 

Dart will be able to fit you out. He is worth the trip over the harbor.
You will find that good stuff is always worth the travel time.

 

Wack – Can’t disagree with the recommendation for The Dart. The dedication, knowledge and patience he shows in his written teachings on this site are testimony enough to his credentials. If you want to make the right choice, he is probably the one…..

An alternate if you do not wish to go that way is the guys at Moore Park. Have not personally had anything to do with them but a couple of people I know have been there and give them a fair report card.

Lind Golf (sponsors of this forum) also conduct there demo’s there on a Wednesday nights. May assist in the clubs project as well. They also will be able to give you an indication and attend to the club fitting needs.

The key to success is to learn to do something right, then do it right every time. Oh I wish.....

 

hi muntz, i noticed some Taylormade rac lt’s in the classifieds section, do you think something like that is over the top.

There are a range of RACs – I have the LTs, which have more of a tour profile (but still are very forgiving). I love ‘em.

Reverse every natural instinct you have and do just the opposite of what you are inclined to do and you will probably come very close to having a perfect golf swing. - BEN HOGAN, POWER GOLF

 

Can you tell me where i can find him, i was sent a link by sarg but i can’t get through.
cheers
leon

 

No sorry i’m in Brisbane, but I wish I was in Sydney cause then i’d be going to see The Dart

Or Perth Guru :-) and Nick the pro i went to is great too, just in case he looks at this site not that he’d know who I am.

He teaches at the Milperra Golf Driving Range in Sydney.

Don’t know if this is current hartgolf AT ozemail DOT com DOT au

 

well i finally booked my lessons and had my 1st hr last night,
was good to find out i was doing everything wrong, ha ha.
so we started back at the very basics with grip and stance, must say felt a bit wierd swinging proplerly, but i think i will get it down soon enough, hit a couple of good ones.
so for now it’s back to the mirror and the range, and hoefully by the time i’ve had a few more and gotten better my coin bin will be full enough for those new clubs.
that pokey win didn’t last long
cheers

 

get some clubs and go and play…learn to enjoy the game….no one should be getting lessons in the first 5 or 6 months they play, just enjoy the sport and challenge see how you go, you can always flog off the set and upgrade later….

I reckon just play…..then get lessons later….if you get a lesson straight up they will fill your head with a million terms you have never heard of….look read some websites and golf mags and learn that way…then get a lesson after 6 months or so

 

Leonsj,

Anyone who recommends not getting lessons is condemning you to a lifetime of bad golf or at least ensuring that you won’t rise to your full potential.

Get the lessons before you get too many bad habits. These forums are full of people with irritating slices and hooks, inability to have any short game and mostly because they fell into bad habits that became ingrained before they had any lessons, if at all.

Do yourself a favour, forget the new clubs for the time being, spend the money on lessons. Find a coach that teaches you how you need to be taught.

Start with the short game (putting then bunkers then chipping) and move out from there. Every golf game is won in the area inside 100 metres. Tiger misses most fairways but sinks most putts.

When you’ve knocked a pile of strokes of your handicap then think about buying a properly fitted set of clubs that are the best you can afford. You’ll find that the pro who has been giving you lessons will also be able to help with lending you some demo clubs from most major brands to see how you hit and feel with them. Nothing better than being able to make an informed decision.

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