Hi,

Just wanted to get some feedback off anyone who uses the TM R7 irons. Just the stock standard R7 (not xd, draw etc). I'd like to know about why they are regarded so highly as a game improvement iron. Appreciate your comments.

Regards

I use the r7 TPs so not exactly what you are asking for. But I will say if the normal ones are a bit easier to hit than the TP models, they'd have to be good.

They would certainly be easier to hit than the CG2 you are currently using. Thats quite a high quality bag you have there. The irons I dare say would be quite hard to hit consistantly for a 25 handicapper.

Thanks for your reply rookie,

You are absolutely correct. My Cleveland CG2 irons are too much club for me. Someone of my handicap will not benefit at all from them. These irons were made for someone of your handicap and lower. There is absolutely no forgiveness in these irons, every shot must be struck flush and true. This is why I am removing them from my bag. But one thing is for certain, when these irons are struck purely, there is no feeling like nailing a forged iron shot.

I am hoping the TM R7's will help my game, I am sure they will, bigger head and wider sole, they have to. I'll be picking them up sometime this week. I just wanted to get some feeback off those who use the R7. The TP's that you use would be rate in between the standard R7 and the CG2's, in terms of playability, according to some articles I have read.

However, I did shoot 6 under my handicap in stroke play today with the CG2's. Nevertheless, the CG2's are going.

Thanks again for the reply..

Hi longnstraight,

FWIW I got fitted for a new set of irons by my club pro on Saturday and one of the models I'm very keen on is the TM R7s.

The reason for my change is I'm currently using the Callaway Big Berthas and the ball flight is waaay too high due to (as the fitting uncovered) an unsuitable shaft (the stock uniflex - too soft), and the high-launch clubhead design.

I hit the following during the fitting:

• Cleveland CG4

  
  Probably my favourite out of the lot. Felt terrific on centered hits and very forgiving on those that weren't. Nice high flight without the ballooning effect of the Big Berthas.

• Cleveland CG4 Tour

  
  Similar to the regular CG4s but less offset and less forgiving on mishits.

• TM R7

  
  After the CG4s my 2nd favourite - very very similar characteristics to the Clevelands, and now that I think about it, not much in it between the two.

• TM R7 TP

  
  Is to the regular R7 as what the CG4 Tour is the the CG4

• Titleist 755

  
  These were used mainly as a control to determine the correct lie angles and lengths - too much club for me but nowhere near as scary to hit as I'd anticipated. Probably quite a similar club to the CG2s I'd imagine...

• Cobra FP

  
  I also liked these - I really only marginally prefer the TM and Cleveland clubs.

• Callaway X20

  
  Reminded me too much of the Big Berthas at address they felt OK, very forgiving, but just seemed to have that very samey feel without any real feedback on mishits.

Hope this helps, and I can't stress (as others will probably testify to) how important the fitting and shaft selection really is and what a difference it makes - the choice of club model really is secondary following being setup with the right specs and shaft for your swing.

HTH

Hi thesuperjason,
Thanks for your in depth description of the irons that you have tried. I appreciate your comments.

I totally agree with you in terms of having correct shaft selection. I have a relatively fast swing speed and am a long hitter. I have selected the T Step 90-gram steel in a stiff flex for my new R7 irons. In this particular model, TM does not offer Dynamic Gold, Rifle or True Temper shafts (only in the TP version). However, I am confident that this shaft will do the job for me.

Looking for game improvement, I too was considering the CG4's as an option. However, being a current Cleveland iron owner I wanted to try something different. I have heard great things about the CG4's both from yourself and other golfing collegues.

I have never hit Callaways before (heard the BB Fusions are a great iron), Cobra FP also looks like a great iron, and Titleist irons (in my humble opinion) are a "players" iron. Although they make a cavity back, I would only consider them if I was a low marker.

I'll let you know how the the R7's are working for me.

Regards

I'll let you know how the the R7's are working for me.

Thanks - I'd be interested to hear how you get along with them, especially with the 90g standard steel shaft - please post your feedback

Just OOI, what is your swing speed? I averaged out at just under 90 MPH with a 6 iron.

The MacGregor 455's are the sweetest OEM GI club I have hit. Can be had on Ebay and clearance in some golf shops.

Thanks for the suggestion solarbear88, appreciate it.

superjason, my swing speed is around 100mph with a driver. Will definately post feedback with regards to the R7 irons

QUOTE: longnstraight @ Mar 5 2007, 04:33 PM

Hi thesuperjason,
Thanks for your in depth description of the irons that you have tried. I appreciate your comments.

I totally agree with you in terms of having correct shaft selection. I have a relatively fast swing speed and am a long hitter. I have selected the T Step 90-gram steel in a stiff flex for my new R7 irons. In this particular model, TM does not offer Dynamic Gold, Rifle or True Temper shafts (only in the TP version). However, I am confident that this shaft will do the job for me.

Looking for game improvement, I too was considering the CG4's as an option. However, being a current Cleveland iron owner I wanted to try something different. I have heard great things about the CG4's both from yourself and other golfing collegues.

I have never hit Callaways before (heard the BB Fusions are a great iron), Cobra FP also looks like a great iron, and Titleist irons (in my humble opinion) are a "players" iron. Although they make a cavity back, I would only consider them if I was a low marker.

I'll let you know how the the R7's are working for me.

Regards

I'm currently using Big Bertha fusions and they are great...the BB fusion isnt anywhere near as chunky as the straight fusion...it has some off set but not major off set. I use reg flex nippon shafts and they are fine

very easy to hiy but can work the ball also

bought them off ebay for 600..3 to sw almost brand new..ben hit for 2 or 3 rounds...

I was wondering about TM R7 irons also..are they midsized or oversized head??

QUOTE: Sven @ Mar 5 2007, 10:00 PM

I was wondering about TM R7 irons also..are they midsized or oversized head??

Hi Sven,

I'm pretty sure the TM R7 has what they classify as an oversize head, with the TPs having a midsize one.

I've heard good things about the BB Fusions and I am led to believe that they are a very different club to the regular Big Berthas. Is the Fusion Wide Sole the chunky one you're thinking of?

QUOTE: Sven @ Mar 5 2007, 11:00 PM

I'm currently using Big Bertha fusions and they are great...the BB fusion isnt anywhere near as chunky as the straight fusion...it has some off set but not major off set. I use reg flex nippon shafts and they are fine

very easy to hiy but can work the ball also

bought them off ebay for 600..3 to sw almost brand new..ben hit for 2 or 3 rounds...

I was wondering about TM R7 irons also..are they midsized or oversized head??

Gee-Wizz, you got the Fusions for a steal. 3 - SW you did extremely well. They retail for close to $1800? I love ebay too, most of my stuff is from there.

The R7's are considered an oversize iron. However a comparison can be made between the R7 iron (oversize) and the R7 - CGB Max (huge sole area) with the Callaway BB Fusion (oversize) and the Fusion Wide Sole (huge sole area).

Your BB Fusions and my R7's are considered as a game improvement iron, and the R7-CGB's and Fusion wide soles are considered a super-game improvement iron. Go and buy a copy of the current US version of Golf Digest, they have reviewed everything you can think of in this issue, including our irons (reviews performed by scientists and golfers). Some interesting info there.

QUOTE: longnstraight @ Mar 4 2007, 10:15 PM

But one thing is for certain, when these irons are struck purely, there is no feeling like nailing a forged iron shot.

With the r7 TPs you also can really feel the difference between a pure shot and a mishit. They feel so sweet with a good shot but you can really feel a bad shot. The good thing I have found though is that miss hits still go straight and longish. There have been a few times I have sworn about my poor shot only to see it pop onto the green. With the same feeling with my old clubs, I knew the ball would have ended up short right.

They are just great irons. I imagine the regular r7s would also hit well, just with a bit more forgiveness. Looking forward to seeing how you go with them.

Now to just get my putter and driver working better!

QUOTE: longnstraight @ Mar 6 2007, 09:54 AM

Gee-Wizz, you got the Fusions for a steal. 3 - SW you did extremely well. They retail for close to $1800? I love ebay too, most of my stuff is from there.

The R7's are considered an oversize iron. However a comparison can be made between the R7 iron (oversize) and the R7 - CGB Max (huge sole area) with the Callaway BB Fusion (oversize) and the Fusion Wide Sole (huge sole area).

Your BB Fusions and my R7's are considered as a game improvement iron, and the R7-CGB's and Fusion wide soles are considered a super-game improvement iron. Go and buy a copy of the current US version of Golf Digest, they have reviewed everything you can think of in this issue, including our irons (reviews performed by scientists and golfers). Some interesting info there.

yeah you have to be quick on ebay when theres a bargain to be had...I also look at reasle value...callaway hold thier value well...The irons are great the BB fusion is very different from the chunky wide sole ones...

I wanted game improvement irons that look ok at adress the BB fusions fit this criteria well...has some off set but not huge...but still easy to hit the rock

QUOTE: Sven @ Mar 6 2007, 02:44 PM

yeah you have to be quick on ebay when theres a bargain to be had...I also look at reasle value...callaway hold thier value well...The irons are great the BB fusion is very different from the chunky wide sole ones...

I wanted game improvement irons that look ok at adress the BB fusions fit this criteria well...has some off set but not huge...but still easy to hit the rock

As a "manager" HTF do you communicate with your reports?

Obviously not with typed memos.

QUOTE: Fyirippu @ Mar 6 2007, 03:37 PM

As a "manager" HTF do you communicate with your reports?

Obviously not with typed memos.

mate I dont have the time to spell check my posts ...sorry my bad...

I work for the aus sports commission...we are busy folk

Hi fellas,

Just picked up my R7 irons today and took them straight to the range.

Like anything new they will take some getting some used to, however first impressions are good. Compared to the tiny heads of my CG2's, these are a dream for a player of my ability (limited that is). They launch the ball high and were forgiving even towards the end of my session, when I became tired and lazy in my swing.

I will take them to the range again tomorrow and Sun, and will play with them on Monday (public holiday - yee haa).

I'll give you a report after Mondays round...

Look forward to the review longnstraight

It was a flip of the coin, but I ended up ordering myself a set of TM R7s on Thursday. It'll be 3 weeks before they arrive, so I'll have to bide my time reading other peoples' reviews until then

How much did you guys pay if you don't mind me asking (and where from)?

QUOTE: simonk83 @ Mar 9 2007, 10:10 PM

How much did you guys pay if you don't mind me asking (and where from)?

$799 -3-PW - Golf Works Burwood - Melbourne

They do really great deals, I couldn't even get that price on eBay...

I think prices are coming down everywhere because golf shops know people can get stuff on line...I say to sales assistants all the time hey i can get that 200 bucks cheaper...they say you wont get warranty...yet some sellers do offer warranty...to be honest I have been playing for 12 years now and I havent had anything go wrong with any equipment I have bought...

except bearings coming out of buggy wheel...nothing wrong with clubs...

How much did you guys pay if you don't mind me asking (and where from)?

I be getting mine for $140 an iron from my Pro with Royal Precision Project X shafts fitted, but I have seen them with the stock 90g TM shaft for around $110.

Following the fitting last weekend, he felt the 115g Project X 5.5 would suit my 90mph 6 iron swing perfectly.

Hi longnstraight,

I just went back and read the following in your previous post:

In this particular model, TM does not offer Dynamic Gold, Rifle or True Temper shafts (only in the TP version). However, I am confident that this shaft will do the job for me.

Apparently the TM R7 (regular version) irons aren't distributed to retailers with anything other than the OEM shafts, but it certainly

IS

possible to get them made up with custom shafts. The order needs to be placed (via the retail outlet) to the US, and they take around 3 weeks to be made up and shipped out; this is what's happening with mine.

QUOTE: thesuperjason @ Mar 10 2007, 04:01 PM

Hi longnstraight,

I just went back and read the following in your previous post:
Apparently the TM R7 (regular version) irons aren't distributed to retailers with anything other than the OEM shafts, but it certainly

IS

possible to get them made up with custom shafts. The order needs to be placed (via the retail outlet) to the US, and they take around 3 weeks to be made up and shipped out; this is what's happening with mine.

Hi thesuperjason,

I agree with you with relation to the shaft upgrade.

There is the option of an unpgrade (with any iron) with a custom order, but I felt that these standard shafts suited my swing speed.

3 week wait sounds about right for a custom order. The only thing non-standard on my irons is that TM Aus (here in Melb) put 2 papers under the grips to make them thicker. It took just over a week to recieve them.

You will enjoy them, a really nice game improvment iron.

Rather than start a new thread, thought I’d ask here as it’s kinda relevant.

What I’ve been reading in some threads is ppl stating that although the TM CGB Max irons are very easy to hit and help your game that if you have a low handicap then you wouldn’t want to use them.

For a newbie, I’m wondering, if a club is easy and forgiving and gets lots of distance, why wouldn’t a low handicapper still use them? Do they prefer more of a challenge? :)