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NIKE GOOD, NIKE BAD
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As much as it goes against my principles, I actually like a Nike product. A couple of dozen Nike One Black balls passed through my hands yesterday, and it seemed like the thing to do to grab a sleeve and take them for a walk. A really nice ball. THe flight profile is quite beautiful: high but great penetration. THe same hop and stop landing you'd expect from any modern ball, nice feel on the putter and more than average grip with the short shots. A player who likes to play crisp, checking chip shots is going to love the thing. My only beef with the ball is downwind performance. Into the wind it cruises on through the resistance: downwind approach shots were disconcerting. THe ball just did not want to come down and rode on forever into the nasty stuff behind the green. Nike BAD. I also had a long famil session with the SUMO drivers. What an absolute over priced over hyped dog. Ugly visual. Ugly ugly sound, like hitting a rubbish bin with a cricket bat. Ugly ugly ugly flat flight. Ugly ugly ugly ugly hooking machine. THe rounded version was not quite as bad as the square one, but I still wouldn't take one as a gift. So ugly I had to go get my own driver to prove to myself that I hadn't suddenly lost any pretence of a functional golf swing. Then again, why would we be surprised? If the finest player in the history of the game can't hit a fairway with a Nike driver why should I believe I can?
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I have found the SUMO (non ²) to perform quite well, and a solid 10 metres longer than my SQ.
I generally find myself looking at the ball when I hit it though,
so maybe that's where I am going wrong
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I liked the Sumo driver, but I didnt like the square. I also prefer the platinum to the black, but that's because I cant induce enough spin to stop the black on rock hard greens. I find I'm a bit more comfortable with the platinum there.
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What are the supposed differences between the two (ie black and platinum), and who are each one targeted at?
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I was of the opinion that the platinum is like the ProVIx and the black is like the ProVI. I think the black is a great ball, managed to pick up a dozen for about $30 last year.
"There is no society in human history that ever suffered
because its people became too reasonable" Sam Harris |
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The platinum have a softer cover and feel, mark up a lot easier than the black. Feel sweet off the putter though.
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I know, there were 2 boxes left at Golf Mart, and I thought "gee, Andrew. That seems to be ok, I'll take one box and see how it goes."
Stupid me should have grabbed both boxes then and there. I guess
they were clearing them for the newer style boxes.
"There is no society in human history that ever suffered
because its people became too reasonable" Sam Harris |
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I would have to agree and say the new Nike drivers, both the SQ and SUMO2, are the ugliest things (golf club or anything else) I have ever laid my eyes upon. Also agree and say the Nike One Black is an excellent ball in windy conditions.
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I played a round today with the original SQ and loved it so easy to hit...thew sumo i tried on a launch monitor it felt good also...will I buy one...maybe..on ebay at about 400 the sumo isnt bad value
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Other way around. The black is the harder ball, the platinum the softer. But the platinum feels closer to the V1x than the V1.
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Get yourself an SQ tour - around the 8.5 or 9.5 degree and put a 75 gram X flex shaft in it. No idea why but most decent players I give this combination to flush it... you will need a 105mph swing or thereabouts. it just seems to match up..
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Surely you're not going to buy a club based on launchy results.
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I knew someone would poke fun at me for that... When I'm standing over the ball Im yes looking at the club head well sort of I actually look at the print on the ball which I make sure is placed towards the front side of the tee (or towards target) I certainly aint thinking geez this looks ugly or big or whatever...and Im thinking stay relaxed and begin takeaway and the recoil downwards... if youre thinking geez it looks ugly you probably wont play very well with it
I dont care what a club really looks like if its good its good if
its bad I wont touch it...
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And I am so head over heels in love with my driver set up** that I have a bag full of untouched freebie "upgrades" in the back room. (** SRX 403 9.5°, Accuflex Tour X 1.8. I'm not admitting to the length. Folk will roll on the ground laughing.)
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I can guess... I am with you on the Sumo... "Just not my bag ... man !!"
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The original Nike is still in my bag. Can't go past it. 350cc. I suggest those who don't like massive heads have a look. Yeah, it's a bit old, but it seems the big brands are dedicating their time now to making clubs that resemble a housebrick on a broomstick. Yuck.
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the only mike thing i have used is the balls and a SQ both were great...bought two dozen Nike one blacks and they play really well...the SQ was mates and I used it for a round...nice club I must say... in terms of overall peformance we forget that Nike hasnt been in golf very long but they have one thing thats a big plus for them...they have ooodles of serious $$$$$CASH$$$ to spend on R and D...I think they will be the number one in equipment in 3 years time...why?? well nike are like dog with tasty bone ...once they stick thier teeth into it they dont let go untill its eaten...unlike many of the top golf companies Nike doesnt just do golf...they have Tiger Federer and most of the NBA...thye have cash to spare like you wouldnt believe that said taylor made is basically has Adidas backing it
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The nike golf devision has no where near the moiney behind it that Titleist and Taylor Made do. They won't be the #1 golf equipment company ever... Having the #1 player in the world for the last number of years hasn't helped them. You forget that Nike golf withdrew from Australia because it wasn't viable, they are now serviced out here via a distributor. Nike have some good people there, Tom Sykes and Roc are good at what they do, but they will never be the power house that TM/Ping/Titleist and to a lesser extent Callaway (who always seem to be in massive financial trouble) are.
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??? Have they ever been #1 in any sport? Basketball? Maybe, but there are a number of shoemakers that appear, from my limited viewing, to be more popular with players Tennis? Nope, and the machine man isn't going to change years of perception and tradition. Are there any other sports that they dabble in? I think golf is the same as tennis, having TW on the pay role is not going to change years of perception and tradition. If Dunlop released a dunlop branded set of muscle back irons would they become popular just through marketing? I highly doubt it, and it would appear that Dunlop doubt it too, Maxfli do have muscle back irons...
"There is no society in human history that ever suffered
because its people became too reasonable" Sam Harris |
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The most recognisable brands are Coca cola and Nike is seocnd... they make more money and turn over more sports product than any other brand does...easily...I'm talking overall not just shoes or raquets or whatever... nike has only jus beagn in golf...give it time...it might take ten years but they will get there I gurantee it...they sign up the best players at 14 or 15 and they will do the same in golf...if a young player shows something nike will be all over him or her...as they did with Wie
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I'm not disputing that they are one of the most recognisable brands in the world. But you're saying that they will be #1 in golf. I don't see how that can happen when your comparison sports they aren't even #1 in. Hey I could be wrong, maybe you are right and they will be #1, but your argument is flawed.
"There is no society in human history that ever suffered
because its people became too reasonable" Sam Harris |
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Nike dominate the footwear market, which is largely what gives them their dominance in dollar and market share terms over other sporting goods manufacturers. They are not a dominant manufacturer of sporting goods other than footwear and clothing.
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so which is it? I'm happy to put money that in 10 years Nike will have withdrawn from the equipment (not apparel) side of golf. Nike DO NOT make money out of golf equipment. Mizuno are one of the most popular irons on the market, who plays them on tour? You really need to get a greater understanding of this industry before your start making comments like this Sven. Nike have previously been on the virge of pulling out of the industry, and no doubt they will be looking at it again shortly.
Here's my prediction. Within 15 years both Callaway and Nike
will have exited the industry in some form. I expect Callaway
will no longer be a public company and will probablly go through
a management buy out (assuming they stay in the market at all).
Nike will have stopped producing hardware and will focus on their
clothing and possibly their shoes.
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