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I currently have the standard Maxfli Revolition PW (48 deg) and SW (55 deg), to which I have added a Maxfli Revolution 52 deg gap wedge. I am looking to get a lob wedge, and I was thinking of either a 58 or 60 deg Titleist Vokey wedge, with the oil can finish as I have heard lots of good stuff about this club. I had planned on changing my driver in the near future, however from listening to advice from a number of people and through trials of new drivers, I'm seeing that I hit my current driver as well as anything new out there, so may have that bit of extra money to spare for the short game. So, should I;
- get a set of wedges (52, 55, 58/60) to replace my existing GW
and SW and add the LW? - just go with the 58 or 60 and stick with the other wedges I have? Also, can anyone explain the options of bounce that go with different wedges, and make recommendations for other wedges or options out there? Cheers
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Hey robbie I have a Titleist Oil Can Spin Milled vokey 60 degree wedge which is a dream to hit. Heaps of spin and great feel, Highly Reccomended and a bit dear, but worth it. I think sticking to 52, 56 and 60 is a good combination because you give yourself even gaps between them and more of an idea of even distances. Your definately right about your driver, if you hit it well keep it and focus more on your short game which is where you score. If you hit your current GW and SW well keep them if you feel comfortable with them and maybe just get a 60? The bounces on a wedge help you in different situations, like low bounce such as 4 degrees is better for hard, tight lies because the bounce helps the club under the ball. Higher bounce is good out of bunkers so you can take a pick. I use an even bounce of 8 in my Vokey.
Hope that helped you a bit Rob Some other guys will probably give you some better tips about bounce and your options.
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play 3 wedges... say 48, 52, 58 or 48, 55 (bent 43) and 60...
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I have the same loft PW (48) as you do. My set ( Cobra mild steel) originally came with a 57 SW and I immediately replaced it with Cobra 54/60 wedges to make the gaps 6 degrees. I played this way for years and was quite happy with the results. Anyway, I recently brought a set of the Burrows wedges in 52/56/60 while they were cheap to experiment with. I enjoy wedge play hence I was far happier with the 3 wedge combination although I sometimes leave the 60 wedge out. While I understand the theory with spin and bounce I'm not an expert. I just know I can maufacture shots and never have any undue trouble stopping the ball.
I'd tend to go for the 52/56/60 combination as it keeps a 4
degree spread throughout your clubs. As for the brand, I'm
not savvy enough to recommend anything, however, most rave about
the Titleist. I guess it depends on what lofts are available. A
lot depends on the type of courses you play on but a spare wedge
or two may not go astray. Probably better than a few extra
drivers laying around
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I bought a set of Cleveland CG11 wedges of ebay 52-56-60...they are great...very easy to hit and great spin...I use the 56 a lot but the 52 gets lots of use also...even the 52 spins well cost was $200 bargain really considering they reatil for $220 each...the CG11 has a slightly bigger face than the CG10 and has a very tiny cavity but it certainly doesnt feel like a cavity back wedge...I dont think the small cavity does anything at all to be honest
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Sven you love raving about your new wedges don't you.
woohoo my birthday today!! 14 y/o
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cheers
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I have tried callaway X..Titliest vokeys, nike SV and others the cleveland wedges leave them for dead... yeah bougth them off the uy that sells 3 in pack...they usually go for about 250 odd...geez how does he buy them..who knows??
all I know is they are great wedges
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Just checking is the seller ausg0lf? the one with negative ratings for dodgy/fake hybrids? Can you confirm the wedges are the real thing? I've stayed away due to the 4 or 5 negatives he's received that they were copies. *btw i've pm'ed him quite a few times on different occasions with no reply if they are fake.
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that said I bought mine off mandp23( 163) but I know people who use ausg0lf and they said he was fine Cant say I have een much fake cleveland gear...nike yes..callaway yes...but never Cleveland...thats not to say it doesnt exist its just not as commom from what I have seen (again I can only base it upon what I have seen and heard...not fact though!!)
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he ripped those wedges down last night. i went in to bid on them 15mins before they finished, and the seller had removed them (both sets, there were 2 up yesterday). A short time later they were relisted (1 set.)... listing no longer existed. I'm not sure sure about this seller anymore. thats a bit dodgy. I've never purchased thru ausg0lf before, but with only 313 feedback and some neg, thats not great. Think i'll just stick with egolf_direct.
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recommend trying the Feel Golf wedges. I have three and adore them. Need cutting down tho as they all come at 36" which is too long, particularly for the higher lofts
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was at the driving range yesterday and had a hit with a Vokey spin milled 60 deg wedge with 4 deg bounce. Hit it on the range and around the chipping green. Was not keen on the loft of it - this is one of the reasons that I rarely use my existing 64 deg wedge. Through chatting with the pro, they suggested perhaps a 58 deg with 10 or 12 deg bounce - hits with a lower trajectory and perhaps a more versatile club. This would give me;
48 deg PW ...which would be good with the current set up, as a progressive increase in loft between each wedge They were offering these in either oil can or the satin/silver (not chrome) finishes for $160. The old 'regular' Vokeys are $130 Is this a good price? I have looked on ebay (Aus, US and UK) and all seem to be similar by the time p&p is added... Cheers for the info Mike
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I most commonly use my lob wedge when I need to hit a flop, and for that 10-12° bounce is way too much. You already have a sand wedge with probably that much bounce, you might be better off with less bounce so as to make it more versatile. my 2c
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the loft/bounce options for the Spin Milled wedges on the Titleist site are as follows; SM54.10, SM54.14, SM56.10, SM56.14, SM58.08, SM58.12, SM60.04, SM60.08 I am thinking the 56 is too similar to my current SW, but a possible replacement in the future.
Maybe the 58.08 is a better choice? Or, maybe just more practice
with the 60.04 or a 60.08?!?! From what I understand, the 4 deg bounce will have a higher trajectory, and is a cleaner/crisper hit than the 8 deg bounce? Looking long term, a 60 may be the one to get now, as I can get a 56 further down the line, giving me 52 Maxfli/56 Vokey/60 Vokey
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That's what I'd do, look towards a 4° gap between them, ending with the 60.04. You can always grind bounce off of the sole as well. The decreased bounce will allow crisper contact on bare/crsip lies, while increased bounce is better for softer lies eg heavy rough, sand bunkers, wet ground under foot. While the flop is a high risk shot, once learned it is a major addition to your arsenal, allowing you to aim for misses you otherwise would shy away from. eg Par three at my home course, 160m, small green sloping back left to front right with a six foot drop off the right side of the green and heavy rough and a bunker on the left side of the green. Pin is often cut right side of the green within 3 meters of the edge of the green and the drop off. A miss left in either the heavy rough or the bunker playing downhill can be tricky at the best of times, and is a nervous situation to be in. A miss on the right means you can end 6 foot below the pin with almost no green to work with. Neither situation is gold, but I feel there is less margin for error in a well executed flop shot from the right than in any option from off the left, therefore allowing you to attack the pin cut on the right. HTH and makes sense. Of course it is a personal preference.
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I'm with Abe on this. Choose a bounce that suits your conditions then choose the degrees...imho. I have one High Bounce [60] and two Mid Bounce [52,56] wedges. Mastering the wedges is so rewarding...I love them. http://www.pinggolf.com/wed...
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From reading the replies to this, and the above review (+ others) I get the understanding that the 60 deg should have minimal bounce for increased versatility. So, the 60.04 that I tried yesterday, is a good option. And down the line, should I decide to, adding a 56 with higher (10 deg) bounce to replace my current SW gives the best of both worlds. I'll have a look again at the 60 when I am at the range later this week, but thanks to all for their help and advice with this Cheers
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I was practicing with my lob wedge (60deg) yesterday and found that if I try and hit a normal chip that the ball would just glide over the surface of the club and not really go very far. In order to get the ball any distance I had to swing the club on a steeper plane and let the club bounce just before the ball to get any height or distance, almost like a bunker shot. Does anyone else find this?
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W00t You definately need a more sharper attack angle with wedge shots, more height and spin.
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well, to update, I am going to the pro shop tonight, to demo a
58.08 and a 60.08, to compare how these feel/differ compared to
the 60.04... I will hopefully be coming home with a new wedge
this evening! My final (!) piece of advice is about the finish of the club... The spin milled Vokeys in 'tour chrome' and oil can... Is there anything between these? I know the oil can will rust over time giving a rougher texture. Does the tour chrome remain rust free? Is there any further pros/cons between the 2 finishes? cheers (again!)
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From what I've read no two Oil Can finished Vokeys will feel/play the same. Personally it's a hard enough game when all your clubs do have the same balance and feel, why would you make it more difficult. But there are many (much much much) better playeres than myself using them so...
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based on the following, I went with the SM60.08 in tour chrome...
From golfdigest.co.za it helps prolong the life of the club by nearly 50 percent. "It's by far the most popular finish with our players," said Vokey, "because it gives them the look and feel they are after, but they don't have to change out their wedges as often.""
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w00t well done Robbie It is a great wedge, mine exactly the same but Oil Can. How did it feel compared to the 60.04?
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off the mat at the range, the 60.04 is nicer - much crisper. In the real world however, round the chipping green, the 60.08 is 'safer' as I didn't cut into the turf nearly as much - the 04 tended to get caught up if I was too delicate -08 just gives me that bit more comfort, and will be a better option out of sand. I did not notice any difference in feel between the oil can and tour chrome finishes - then again, with a 17 handicap, this is perhaps not something that is glaringly obvious to me. Looking forward to getting out on the course this weekend, and hoping to be left with a few 60-70m to green shots! Spent a lot of time last night picking yellow flakes of range ball out of the grooves - glad I use NXT Tours rather than Pro V1s!
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