Time to replace the driver

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I've had my Callaway Great Big Bertha Titanium since new (1995) -9 deg with Callaway BB Ultralite firm flex shaft. Used it for the majority of time I've owned it - used a Titleist 975D, 9.5 deg, stiff flex for about 3 years until the shaft split, then I went back to the trusty Bertha 2 years ago

I'm fancying a change what with driver technology coming on so much since '95.

My 1st choice was a Titleist 905R... I've tried this club in 9.5 deg with both the Proforce V2 and YS6+ stiff shafts. YS6+ felt better, but both seemed to baloon away with little control. I have also hit a 905S, 9.5 degree with X flex Grafalloy Blue shaft, and it was horrible - far to stiff for me.

At least with the GBB I get a lot of feel when hitting the ball.

Any suggestions for others to consider? I am thinking the titleist 905s are not for me.

I am around a 16 handicap, but not sure of swing speed - need to head to a Drummond store to find this out.

With the GBB, I am hitting around 250y -270y (incl roll) with quite a low, penetrating trajectory

Thanks for any pointers

Mike

 

QUOTE: mrobbie @ Feb 13 2007, 11:13 PM

I've had my Callaway Great Big Bertha Titanium since new (1995) -9 deg with Callaway BB Ultralite firm flex shaft. Used it for the majority of time I've owned it - used a Titleist 975D, 9.5 deg, stiff flex for about 3 years until the shaft split, then I went back to the trusty Bertha 2 years ago

I'm fancying a change what with driver technology coming on so much since '95.

My 1st choice was a Titleist 905R... I've tried this club in 9.5 deg with both the Proforce V2 and YS6+ stiff shafts. YS6+ felt better, but both seemed to baloon away with little control. I have also hit a 905S, 9.5 degree with X flex Grafalloy Blue shaft, and it was horrible - far to stiff for me.

At least with the GBB I get a lot of feel when hitting the ball.

Any suggestions for others to consider? I am thinking the titleist 905s are not for me.

I am around a 16 handicap, but not sure of swing speed - need to head to a Drummond store to find this out.

With the GBB, I am hitting around 250m -270m (incl roll) with quite a low, penetrating trajectory

Thanks for any pointers

Mike


Mike, I'm also in the process of updating my Titleist 975D driver to take advantage of modern technology. Irrespective of my own personal swing faults I've had no end of trouble trying to find a better all round driver than the 975D. As you've experienced I also had problems with ballooning and control.

Your probably hitting about 20m further than me and my swing speed as per Drummond is low to mid nineties - mph. However, my ball speed or the quality of contact was fairly high. As you can appreciate there are so many factors to be considered when choosing a driver. In fact, I've given up for now and sticking with the 975D until I get properly fitted.

I think everything points to being properly fitted, and that's what I'll eventually do. I'd imagine we'd have to be fortunate to buy a driver off the shelf that suited our swings. You may be lucky, but in reality bitting the bullet and getting fitted properly seems the logical thing to do.

Hope this helps...Ian

 

cheers Ian, I was all set to replace the shaft on the 975D but was torn between spending $150+ on reshafting a 5 year old club vs buying something new for $400-500... decided new is the option and the GBB will keep me going for now.

Hope to keep trying some other drivers on the range at the local golf club, and always comparing to the GBB in the same sessions. Only problem is they have quite limited stock. I'll try a Ping G5 and Cleveland Hi Bore over the next few weeks...

I think you are right with going somewhere for proper fitting though

Wish I could have the 975 working again to compare it to the GBB and others, but not up for spending the cash on it. Could stick a proforce V2 on it for $100 I guess, but that may just be money down the pan as I feel something new would give me more benefit if I can find the right club for me...

 

sorry I cant help but ask you hit it 250-270 yet your off 17...geez keep the driver and get some new irons and wedges...

I havent seen many guys of 17 who hit 270...most guys that can hit that play off 10 or below...

in terms of drivers its a real buyers feats as all the new models out make the 05-06 models great value...SQ's around for 250..Hi bores for less than 300..TM top drivers for 400 odd...its a real estate term but its certainly a buyers market right now...

try everything...I hit the 905R felt nice...lovely trajectory...it had a green NV (stiff in it) in it...

 

QUOTE: Sven @ Feb 14 2007, 12:37 AM

sorry I cant help but ask you hit it 250-270 yet your off 17...geez keep the driver and get some new irons and wedges...

I havent seen many guys of 17 who hit 270...most guys that can hit that play off 10 or below...

in terms of drivers its a real buyers feats as all the new models out make the 05-06 models great value...SQ's around for 250..Hi bores for less than 300..TM top drivers for 400 odd...its a real estate term but its certainly a buyers market right now...

try everything...I hit the 905R felt nice...lovely trajectory...it had a green NV (stiff in it) in it...


Well, Mike wasn't very specific on his distances...I'm not sure if he meant that was his average?...and we all exaggerate a little laugh.gif One thing I find interesting is, most people list their driver distance (please fill in) 20m more than the 3 wood. Considering all the technological advancements have been made in the driver, it's a wonder the spread between that and the 3 wood isn't far greater. Anyway, I've heard as long as you purchase a post 2003 driver most of the acclaimed advances are included.

 

QUOTE: Sven @ Feb 14 2007, 12:37 AM

sorry I cant help but ask you hit it 250-270 yet your off 17...geez keep the driver and get some new irons and wedges...

I have to agree. If you hit it over 230m almost every time and yet you are off 17, then you need to become a much better iron player and need to putt for a few hours a week. Something is horribly wrong with your short game. If you hit 60% of your fairways at a distance of 220-230m, it is almost impossible to have more than 80-85 strokes around an average golf course, and you'll very often break 80.

Just a general question to others; Is it just me or do too many golfers who fail to get up and down more than 30-40% of the time from beside the green dismiss the practice of working on this part of their game and just keep buying rocket launchers that won't help them?

 

QUOTE: mrobbie @ Feb 13 2007, 11:13 PM

With the GBB, I am hitting around 250m -270m (incl roll) with quite a low, penetrating trajectory

Keep the GBB if you hit it that well. Most pros would be happy with these numbers and trajectory. Spend your money on lessons for your wedge game.

 

Just a general question to others; Is it just me or do too many golfers who fail to get up and down more than 30-40% of the time from beside the green dismiss the practice of working on this part of their game and just keep buying rocket launchers that won't help them?

Absolutely! Virtually every golfer out there would give his left nad to be able to hit it 10m further off the tee (& that includes the pros). Who cares about short game? Look at the average handicap. Drive for show. Putt for...who gives a $#!t.

Back to the topic. You probably hit your old driver lower because it had a smaller, shallow head & a lower tee height. The shaft in it is pretty soft which probably contributes to the good "feel" you describe.
If you hit the ball as far as you say then your SS is up around 110-115 mph (maybe more if you aren't hitting the middle of the face consistently which I'm going to assume you aren't given your handicap). I'd suggest a session on a launchie to work this out first.
You can also mess around with this program.
Distance Dashboard
Then it's a matter of coming to terms with the bigger heads & their lack of workability. They are designed to bomb it on a higher trajectory than your 95 club so might as well get used to that.
Remember to demo on course before you buy whenever possible.
Good luck.

Home on The Range

 

Doh! my bad - I hit 250-270

yards

- sorry! All confused since getting to Oz and working in metres!

Hope this clears it all up - wasn't trying to big myself up - just a boo boo

 

Give the guy a break - that distance in yards isn't too unbelievable for a player with that h'cap. And, like most people, he's probably talking about well struck shots and not including the occassional crappy shot that goes nowhere.

Also, he didn't say that it goes straight!

mrobbie

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There's not too much point people suggesting club / shaft combinations without seeing you hit. Plus, what works for one person might not work for another.

I would suggest you either go see someone in your local area who can fit you properly (probably a clubfitter and not your local Drummond store), or head down to a driving range where you can try a few different clubs out and see how they perform outdoors. If you take the trial and error option, take your current driver along as well to compare results.

Tithers,

I agree - people who struggle to get up&down should focus on that part of their game instead of spending all their time and money on drivers searching for an extra few metres. I guess for many the thrill of a well struck drive far exceeds the thrill of a good score.

 

QUOTE: mrobbie @ Feb 14 2007, 09:17 AM

Doh! my bad - I hit 250-270

yards

- sorry! All confused since getting to Oz and working in metres!

Hope this clears it all up - wasn't trying to big myself up - just a boo boo


Yes, I did notice the yards laugh.gif I figured you'd hit 20m further than me after I converted. I'm certainly not a long hitter. I'd bet the Distance Dashboard tool would be a fair indication of our true distances. If you can, get on a launchie and take out the guesswork.

The feel of the modern drivers is quite different to the ones we're using. I guess we'll just get used to the feel as I did many years ago when I changed from wood to metal.

 

yes, 250-270 yards is about 230 to 250 metres

I am also fairly accurate with it, but do admit to be lacking consistency. In an outing, I can be up there with the winners of the longest drive hole

I struggle getting down around the greens. I find that I have no control with the ball and so often play a chip & run up to the hole, rather than pitching to it (however have just bought some NXT Tours so will see if I get more bite with these)

I'm happy with my irons - Maxfli Revolution (red) - after getting them to replace my Titleist DCI 982s (the DCIs had stiff shafts, and I found as, at the time, I was not playing regularly, and so was struggling with the stiffness of them). I find the Maxflis much easier to hit and get the ball up in the air.

My wedges; I have the Maxfli Revolution PW, SW (the standard ones in the set) and additonally, aTPS gap wedge, and an Fazer 64 deg wedge (seldom used). I'd like to swap the Fazer for a better 60 deg wedge that will generate more bite for shots round the green at some point.

My putter is a Fazer IT4G mallet job, which I like cos of the weight behind it. I seem to work well with it.

The biggest contributing factor to my handicap is consistency - on occastion, I can boom a drive down the middle, nice iron to the green putt/2 putts for birdie/par, and then get an 8 on the next.

Jeez, opening a whole can of worms here!! This is getting way beyond the initial driver question! laugh.gif

 

MrRobbie.

ISG is a can of worms - simple wink.gif

If you get 20% of the posts in a thread you start, actually discuss the top, you are doing pretty well.

As far as your driver is concerned - if it ain't broke don't fix it.

 

While we are on the subject of being fitted for a driver. I live in Bayswater VIC does any one know of a nearby Callaway fitter?

 

QUOTE: way2keen @ Feb 14 2007, 11:49 AM

While we are on the subject of being fitted for a driver. I live in Bayswater VIC does any one know of a nearby Callaway fitter?

The Callaway fitting Centre is in Corporate Ave Rowville
I hope this helps

 

QUOTE: ttitheridge @ Feb 14 2007, 08:27 AM

I have to agree. If you hit it over 230m almost every time and yet you are off 17, then you need to become a much better iron player and need to putt for a few hours a week. Something is horribly wrong with your short game. If you hit 60% of your fairways at a distance of 220-230m, it is almost impossible to have more than 80-85 strokes around an average golf course, and you'll very often break 80.

Just a general question to others; Is it just me or do too many golfers who fail to get up and down more than 30-40% of the time from beside the green dismiss the practice of working on this part of their game and just keep buying rocket launchers that won't help them?


When people come to my range Tony they dont bring a putter with them driver driver driver only good golfers bring other clubs or dreamers.


If someone tells you you are a swinger and then proceeds to try and make you a hitter ... run Quickly...



Beside guru on the range ....

 

at the driving range last night, I hit the following;

7 iron
4 iron
5 wood
driver
Titleist demo driver
8 iron
PW
Gap wedge

Each time I had a target to aim at to ensure I was not just smashing it down the range

I would have hit around 9 balls with each club, with the exception of the demo driver where I only hit 6 balls

 

QUOTE: rustific @ Feb 14 2007, 12:09 PM

The Callaway fitting Centre is in Corporate Ave Rowville
I hope this helps

I saw that place on the website it looks very formal. Do you have to pay to go there?

 

QUOTE: way2keen @ Feb 14 2007, 03:10 PM

I saw that place on the website it looks very formal. Do you have to pay to go there?

You pay for the service, and they fit you out with specs for you. They then give you a voucher that will give the cost of the fitting as a discount off your purchase at an authorised Callaway retailer. You can't actually buy the club(s) from the fitting centre. Read the info on the Callaway website, its all spelled out pretty clearly.

 

QUOTE: golfdoc @ Feb 14 2007, 03:51 PM

You pay for the service, and they fit you out with specs for you. They then give you a voucher that will give the cost of the fitting as a discount off your purchase at an authorised Callaway retailer. You can't actually buy the club(s) from the fitting centre. Read the info on the Callaway website, its all spelled out pretty clearly.

Are we looking at the same website, because I can't find any info relating to vouchers and discounts?

 

QUOTE: golfdoc @ Feb 14 2007, 03:51 PM

You pay for the service, and they fit you out with specs for you. They then give you a voucher that will give the cost of the fitting as a discount off your purchase at an authorised Callaway retailer. You can't actually buy the club(s) from the fitting centre. Read the info on the Callaway website, its all spelled out pretty clearly.


You can't, but others can.
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