but
still manages (after only a couple of months back in the game) to
go round in between 85 -95 and is improving round by round as the
cobwebs clear out.
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The best place to get genuine club fitting and sound advice in Adelaide?
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My golf buddy after a long hiatus is getting back into the game
and starting to hit the ball nicely. He literally has equipment
that cash converters would turn their nose at He has around $1500 available for a decent set up and after we played this morning we dropped into one of Adelaide's larger golf shops - after hitting some clubs in the nets the assistant (who spent around 40 minutes with us and seemed a nice bloke) was ready to take $1400 of my mate. Combo was a Callaway 3 wood, two Power Bilt Hybrids (2 and 3) and a set of Wilson Staff irons with a Proline bag etc. All good so far but my questions are three:
2. Where in Adelaide can both he and I get REAL advice and a set of clubs made or packaged to suit and improve a golfers game? Where in Adelaide can $1400 dollars be spent to get the best result! I see the names like Wilson etc all the time yet I see on here Nakashima and Muiro? are worthwhile alternatives... 3. I am a hacker with 2 months in the game shooting in the 110's and I have been told that my of the shelf graphite shafted Rapiers are no good for a bloke my size (I am 6 foot 2 about 115 kg and heavy set) and he recommended going to steel shafted clubs immediatley, my question is someone who is not hitting the ball consistantly going to benefit from changing to newer equipment with only a dozen games under my belt??? We are serious about the sport, I am having lessons with a reputable Pro, he is happy developing on his own at the moment. Help us please...
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I was in a similar position to you foxy, and I ended up going to see Ben in Melbourne. I really struggled to find someone here that provided a decent clubfitting experience. Kerry Ellis/Drummond I believe are the only places that have a launch monitor in adelaide, but they still like to make a dollar and aren't too happy when you ask for demo's to try on course. There is also Long Drive Golf at the Driving range at O'Hallorin Hill who do custom fittings, but not sure to what extent - I think tim@ldg is from there so may be able to shed some more light
Maybe a guys weekend in melbourne with a clubfit session could be
the go? Hope that helps Cheers Liam
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Kerry Ellis in the city has a awsome setup! All brand new! Go there!
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No matter where you get "fitted", if you walk in and walk out with a new set of clubs, or the final specs have been decided in the one "fitting" without any outdoor (and I mean in play not just at a range) testing, then you have not been fitted correctly.
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No matter where you get "fitted", if you walk in and walk out with a new set of clubs, or the final specs have been decided in the one "fitting" without any outdoor (and I mean in play not just at a range) testing, then you have not been fitted correctly.
If someone tells you you are a swinger and then proceeds to try
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defenentily go have a look at o,hallaran hill range.they have
heaps of clubs to choose from and chris will do a full swing fit
up.also if you do like the wilson range of clubs they do custom
fitting there and you can step out on the range and hit balls .i
had my driver custom made from here and couldnt be happier.
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Thanks for the plug dac.
Foxy. Feel free to call up for a chat or bring up your bats so we
can see your action & see what goes. I don't care where
you buy from (we send just as many people back down the hill to
Kerry-Drummonds) but our advice & fitting is free of BS. I
guarantee a completely different experience from the other
"shops". Heck. You can even see Wilson Staff &
Nakashima side by side.
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I don't think there is anywhere is in SA you can actually get fitted beside The Range and have custom building done.
Timmy is also a bit of allright to look at, so its well worth the
trip
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Awww shucks...
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You are very close to me and I have practiced there a couple of times...just waiting till you get the grassed tee going as I'm not a fan of the synthetic platforms. How much do you charge for a swing analysis and fitting?? What is the price range of Nakashima clubs? I haven't heard/seen much of them other than on this site...PM me if you'd prefer to keep prices private.
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Gday I work down at Golf World on West Tce and we have a dynamic fitting system upstairs in our nets. We have just implemented this system and myself and my manager have both been through a training course to teach us how to fit clubs. We can fit the clubs to your length, lie, shaft flex, shaft (graphite/steel) and grip thickness using our launch monitor. It only takes about 10-15 mins and we do it for no extra cost on top of the clubs. James
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Thats awesome, a launchy is the ONLY way to fit for correct grip
thickness!
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I am sorry but it is impossible to correctly fit someone in ten to fifteen minutes. it isalso impossible to correctly fit someone indoors only.
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I dont want to disagree but the system we have only takes 10-15 mins to do if the person knows what they are doing, has the test clubs set out and if the person is easy to fit, I just want to know why this is impossible when I have done this in the past? We use the launch monitor inside which is quite accurate and gives us a read of club head speed to fit the shaft flex to our customer. Using the launch monitor we dont feel as though it is necessary to hit balls outside.
And no we dont use the launch monitor for grip thickness
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hi james, you are correct and I should give you the benefit of the doubt. to give us all an idea of your fitting system can you describe how you fit for the following, as these are really the key aspects of fitting:
1. length thannks ben
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Also does the customer get to pick ferrule colour?
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Sounds like someone has just spent a lot of money on gear that works indoor only.
James ,
If someone tells you you are a swinger and then proceeds to try
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Great stuff James. It is good to see companies in Adelaide growing and trying to fulfil customers needs. While it might not be everyones cup of tea, I am sure it is a whole lot better than hitting a few golf balls into a net. ash ps. do you sell impact bags there? if so I might nip down after work one day.
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In reply to your comment ben we do not custom fit everything on your list, we only do what we feel is needed to fit a set of clubs to our customers. How we do this I will explain. Lie angle: by getting the customer to hit shots off a board and seeing on the bottom of the club where the impact is (using tape). We change the clubs with different lie angles until the impact is in the middle of the sole. Length: we use face tape and look for consistency with the shots. If the club is too long or too short the markings on the face tape will be inconsistent. Shaft flex: we use the launch monitor and look at club speed to match the club to the correct shaft. Loft: we use the launch monitor again and look for a good launch angle (data given to us by the program), obviously it differs from customer to customer depending on club speed. We were trained by a person in the Golf World group from QLD that came down and set up the system and then trained us for a day, then we had to take a written and practical exam. I am by no means saying our system is the best or anyone else's is worse, just explaining what we do in our store and giving a run down on our custom fitting system. P.S sorry we dont sell impact bags at the moment, but I will try and see if we can get one for you! James
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James, There is much more to shaft flex fitting than just swing speed. Considerations such as tempo, transition and release action are of equal importance. Mick
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Im not saying those aspects do not apply its just that we havent found the need to custom fit our customers to those points as of yet. But I will certainly look into this as I want to learn more!
Cheers for the pointers
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Very interesting reading these links on club making, fitting etc. Seems that there are so many opinions, who is right? The MOI boys, the simple approach of James Mc (much easier to understand than the MOI too), the golf retailers, the professionals, off the shelf. Who knows, and, does the average golfer really care? Most new clubs have a honeymoon period which disappears quite quickly anyway. Strange how so much time is spent on the virtues of club making, what about putting. The score is lowered on the putting green more times than not. It is quite difficult to hit the ball 6 strokes per round better, but it is a lot easier to improve putting from say 36 putts per round to say 30 putts per round with a good short game. Most golfers would be happy just scoring 4 strokes better per round in club competitions, and that could be just 4 less 3 putt greens. Perhaps golfers need to concentrate more on developing a good short game and putting. Instead of continually searching for the answer with a new club or theory, keep the pennies in the pocket and sharpen the around the green skills and putting.
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You really should consider these other aspects of shaft fitting. If you are basing flex on swing speed alone, you will be lucky to fit the correct flex even half of the time.
Then read this: http://www.freegolfinfo.com...
Or you could do both. Mick
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You can fit for putters, too - in fact its very important. Lenght, loft, lie, etc. Your standard, off the shelf, 35" Oddy or Titty does not fit everyone.
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I would suggest its not the need, its the lack of understanding of the fitters. What you do is provide a retail service, it is not custom fitting. Growler,
I spend a lot of time fitting putters these days. I have one of
the only putter loft and lie machines in Melbourne.
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