Just curious as to how many here have actually been fitted for their clubs. Personally, none of mine have been. Not because I don't believe in fitting, but none of the yahoos working in the pro shops around my little country town seem to know what fitting means.

Cheers,

Col

All of my clubs are fitted, by me...

I have worked out what works for me and what doesn't and I make sure I get my lie angles checked on my irons etc etc.

I had a launch monitor session recently and I was pretty damn close to being optimal (just had to cut back the spin and launch a little higher) with the driver.

I don't think having an extensive fitting session would make that much of a difference, I get it pretty close to spot on through my own work.

It might sound arrogant to an extent, but I use a lie board to check my lie angles, and then work out what is best in terms of a dynamic fit.

I got fitted to make sure that I had the right shafts - flex and weight - about 12 months ago. Paul at Advantage Custom was great and I would recommend him to anyone but he has sold the business.

I don't work there either and I think cjgolf from this forum might have some involvement. I'll be back there for a check up in the next few weeks and will report back as to how it goes

I went for the henry griffits custom fit. They replaced a set of 10 year old King Cobra's and my handicap went backwards for 12 months.
I like them now, but they may be a bit long in the shaft length

nope,

whats the point of fitting clubs to an inconsistent swing?

If you're playing off more than 5, I don't really see the point.

Just get an idea of what suits you and go from there - like shaft flex, length and lie.

QUOTE: Moe @ Sep 17 2006, 09:47 PM

nope,

whats the point of fitting clubs to an inconsistent swing?

If you're playing off more than 5, I don't really see the point.

Just get an idea of what suits you and go from there - like shaft flex, length and lie.

You'd be surpised what fitting can do to bring out the positives in your swing. Its actually the people with the higher handicaps who benefit from fitting a lot more than the guys off 5.

QUOTE: Moe @ Sep 17 2006, 09:47 PM

nope,

whats the point of fitting clubs to an inconsistent swing?

If you're playing off more than 5, I don't really see the point.

Just get an idea of what suits you and go from there - like shaft flex, length and lie.

That sounds like an excuse, not to get better. I saw a great ad. at a driving range the other day, it went something like, why does Robert Allenby have regular lessons for his golf game & you don't ?
If you & your equipment are on the same page, then that's one less thing to worry about.
I've had my clubs fitted/made, since 1981. ( PGF, Carnegie Clark, local )
Jon...

QUOTE: Ben @ Sep 17 2006, 10:07 PM

Its actually the people with the higher handicaps who benefit from fitting a lot more than the guys off 5.

Totally agree with that. The higher your handicap, the more important it is to be fitted.

Low markers can distort the fitting process, because they are generally good enough to compensate for lie angles and lengths that may not be right for them on the course.

QUOTE: beancounter @ Sep 17 2006, 09:43 PM

I went for the henry griffits custom fit. They replaced a set of 10 year old King Cobra's and my handicap went backwards for 12 months.
I like them now, but they may be a bit long in the shaft length

That is because Henry Griffitts don't custom fit. They just give everybody shafts that are too long and lofts that are too low. The customer then walks away saying, "Wow, I can hit my 7 iron 20 metres further", not realizing that their 7 iron is now in fact a 5 iron. Then they go out onto the course and wonder why they have trouble scoring.

Every Henry Griffitts set I have seen has been misfit for both length and lie and some have been so poorly assembled that it is laughable. IMO they are the biggest rip off in golf.

This thread should have been titled, "Are your clubs

properly

fitted?"

BTW, mine are. I did them myself.

Mick

QUOTE: vman @ Sep 18 2006, 01:46 PM

Every Henry Griffitts set I have seen has been misfit for both length and lie and some have been so poorly assembled that it is laughable. IMO they are the biggest rip off in golf.

That is just NOT True... Of the 20 or so I have seen, only about 18 have been incorrectly fitted. usually too long and too upright. The heads are blatent rip offs also...

Also Callaway is the biggest rip off in golf...

QUOTE: ScratchPlayer @ Sep 17 2006, 09:37 PM

I got fitted to make sure that I had the right shafts - flex and weight - about 12 months ago. Paul at Advantage Custom was great and I would recommend him to anyone but he has sold the business.

I don't work there either and I think cjgolf from this forum might have some involvement. I'll be back there for a check up in the next few weeks and will report back as to how it goes

Paul Hoffman had a good reputation.

The guy that took over posted on here at one stage.

I dont have involvement - that wld have to be a plus for them

QUOTE: Virge666 @ Sep 18 2006, 01:54 PM

That is just NOT True... Of the 20 or so I have seen, only about 18 have been incorrectly fitted. usually too long and too upright. The heads are blatent rip offs also...

Also Callaway is the biggest rip off in golf...

I stand corrected.

Callaway prices have dropped significantly over the last few years, so I would now put then in second place.

Mick

QUOTE: Ben @ Sep 17 2006, 10:07 PM

You'd be surpised what fitting can do to bring out the positives in your swing. Its actually the people with the higher handicaps who benefit from fitting a lot more than the guys off 5.

After picking up second prize in this years footy tipping competition ($618) I thought I'd treat myself to a new club to bridge the gap between my 5w & 5i. I'd taken my 3 & 4i out of the bag as I couldn't hit them. I went to see Ben at the urging of somebody else on here and instead of making me a new club he adjusted all the irons I have currently. So back into the bag with the 3 & 4i and on the weekend I played Hidden Valley & Corowa. The 3i worked a treat, I was 6 for 6 hitting it clean & straight. So I now agree with
Ben, there is quite a lot to be gained from having your club fitting done properly regardless of your handicap.

Thanks Ben.

QUOTE: andigold @ Sep 18 2006, 04:43 PM

After picking up second prize in this years footy tipping competition ($618) I thought I'd treat myself to a new club to bridge the gap between my 5w & 5i. I'd taken my 3 & 4i out of the bag as I couldn't hit them. I went to see Ben at the urging of somebody else on here and instead of making me a new club he adjusted all the irons I have currently. So back into the bag with the 3 & 4i and on the weekend I played Hidden Valley & Corowa. The 3i worked a treat, I was 6 for 6 hitting it clean & straight. So I now agree with
Ben, there is quite a lot to be gained from having your club fitting done properly regardless of your handicap.

Thanks Ben.

Andy,

Awesome to hear the MOI matching worked. I knew you'd be ok once that was sorted .. if only I knew you had $618 to spend tho!!

QUOTE: vman @ Sep 18 2006, 01:46 PM

Every Henry Griffitts set I have seen has been misfit for both length and lie and some have been so poorly assembled that it is laughable. IMO they are the biggest rip off in golf.

Mick

Mick,
I hear what u r saying. My game hasn;t improved as much as I would have liked since having the HG's.
In fact, it hasn;t improved at all. However, a lot of guys at our club have bought them and most seem pretty happy with them and have taken plenty of shots off their handicaps, which is what it is all about.

I didn't improve greatly in distance per club, so i don't see that as an issue.

I know that our club pro believes in them, but i would be interested to know if profit margin on HG clubs is greater than other clubs.

I am certainly not defending them and probably would not recommend them, but I would hate to think that our club pro is pushing a dud product.

QUOTE: beancounter @ Sep 18 2006, 07:05 PM

Mick,
I hear what u r saying...

I know that our club pro believes in them, but i would be interested to know if profit margin on HG clubs is greater than other clubs.

beancounter,

My Statement was a general one. There are a great many people out there assembling HG clubs and, no doubt, some of them do a good job. Your pro may be one of them.

However, it has been my experience that HG clubs are assembled from mediocre components with, in some cases, sub-standard workmanship. And none have been properly fitted for the customer. As Virge said, the lies are invariably far too upright.

For what you get, HG clubs are grossly overpriced.

I am certainly not defending them and probably would not recommend them, but I would hate to think that our club pro is pushing a dud product.

To a large degree, clubs are only as good as the clubfitter/maker. If your pro knows his stuff, then you might be in luck. But, there are obviously many HG guys who don't have a clue.

Mick

I have been playing golf now for 3 years and i have never been fitted for clubs. The first set i bought was
from A-Mart for a few hundred dollars to get me started. i was always in the 100's at the end of the day as a beginner usually is. slowly my score started comming down so 2 years later i decided to to spend some $$$
and went for taylor rac os irons. ive been using them almost 12 months and score has come down heaps. last sunday i shot 89 for the 3rd time and yesterday i shot 86 at indooroopilly on the red and gold combo.

ive been through a few drivers in the last 12months, from the Cleveland Launcher 460. Nike Ignite 460, Adams RPM 430Q, Then i hit the Nike SQ on a demo day and my drives where slightly further but alot straighter. So i bought one off the shelf with upgraded Aldila S flex, and its still in my bag, wont be changing that club for a long time. So as far as it goes for club fitting i dont belive in it as i will explain in a moment. maby one day when my score is consistantly in the 80's, if ever, then maby i will find someone to check
my lie angles and shaft lengh or what ever it is they do to see if i use the right equipment.

OK. a friend of mine had been plaing for 10 years but had a 5 year break, then started back up again when i took up this great game. It was time for him to sell his Shark clubs he bought from kmart 10 years ago
and upgrade for to Taylormade rac, "which he wanted before me". he decided to get fitted at one of the local pro shops, which i wont mention who that is. what he found out apparently was that he need a 6degree
toe up and unfortunatley he was told Taylor dont do rac in 6 degree, so what he ended up with was Maxfli custom.. which cost him $1400.

i just shook my head, he didnt get a 2nd opinion just say "oh ok" and his clubs were ordered. Which i find very strange as i thought those old clubs he used he hit very well. He has a hit few times with my rac's and he's hit them pretty well most of the time. Personally i think this bloke saw a easy oportunity to sell some old crappy stock that he wanted to get rid of quickly. His driver and fairway metals arnt 6 degree which he sold him as well, so why are the irons?? He went a bought a Cleveland lob wedge from Golf World from off the shelf and he hits that pretty well too most times. Shouldnt that wedge be 6 degree??
Ide like to know what you guys think, do you think he's been ripped off?? I do..

I think club fit suits the low handicap player, but personally dont think it would make much difference
to us beginners. You go to the local golf shop, the staff come over try to sell you a club your looking at, which you end up buying, so they take it to the counter, scan it threw and say so it that cash or credit, but they dont say, "ok, we will fit you for this club now!"

SOrry,
i didnt realize i almost wrote a book there.

QUOTE: vman @ Sep 18 2006, 07:24 PM

For what you get, HG clubs are grossly overpriced.
To a large degree, clubs are only as good as the clubfitter/maker. If your pro knows his stuff, then you might be in luck. But, there are obviously many HG guys who don't have a clue.

Mick

Mick,

Good points. If I had the wisdom of this forum 3 years ago, i might have made a different choice.
Cost was significant.

At some point I might pay a visit to Ben and get them checked out.

I'm not fitted for any of my clubs...but I do have a preference for Mizunos (early edition sets) and Pings with orange dots...
2degrees below standard thru the set...
I think it's just mind over matter for me...

I've played with AEPs for couple of years that I know the irons were too upright for me, but I played great with those...

am playing great with the Mizunos atm...so not really caught-up in the idea of club fitting as yet...

would love to get onto a launch monitor to find the ideal driver tho...

At the end of the day if you don't get clubs fitted to your swing then you are adjusting your swing to suit the equipment you buy. This is akin to buying a new car without being able to adjust the seat to suit you. Sure, you can get from A to B but is it the best ride possible? Not likely.
I'd say, on average, 80% of the people we fit are playing shafts that are too firm for them, especially in their irons. Bloody DG S300s. & people wonder why they hit cuts when they are not warmed up or start to tire late in rounds. JMHO.
A good fitter is worth his weight in ferrules.

QUOTE: wogboy @ Sep 18 2006, 10:54 PM

I think club fit suits the low handicap player, but personally dont think it would make much difference
to us beginners. You go to the local golf shop, the staff come over try to sell you a club your looking at, which you end up buying, so they take it to the counter, scan it threw and say so it that cash or credit, but they dont say, "ok, we will fit you for this club now!"

Yeah - there a few parts here . . . USUALLY . . . more than 4 degrees either way denotes a swing fault. Or club shaft length or material issue - there are some exceptions - but pretty rare. 6 degrees upright tells me the shaft is too long or your mate needs some lessons

2nd part is that if you are going to spend $1400 on a set of clubs - why would you not spend $50 extra to get fitted by someone half decent... The $299 specials at the local pro shop for a bash on every 7th Sunday is one thing - but $1400 on something you cannot hit .. That is insane.

These forums are pretty good to find some decent clubfitters in most state. Use and abuse it.

Does anyone know how they bent a set of cast RAC OS 6 degrees ?

QUOTE: Virge666 @ Sep 19 2006, 07:46 AM

Does anyone know how they bent a set of cast RAC OS 6 degrees ?

I am betting with a bending bar.

QUOTE: Ben @ Sep 19 2006, 08:38 AM

I am betting with a bending bar.

No - REALLY ???

QUOTE: Virge666 @ Sep 19 2006, 07:46 AM

Does anyone know how they bent a set of cast RAC OS 6 degrees ?

didn't he say they couldn't bend him so recommended the maxfli instead?

Either way, 6°...shite!

QUOTE: Virge666 @ Sep 19 2006, 09:25 AM

No - REALLY ???

They have this guy in the workshop.