Just some useless info for the masses …

This is the (much maligned) putter that dropped putts like crazy in the WGC Cadillac event – Method 001. As known he still uses the Nike One Tour D. If you look closely you can see a star icon in between the “one” and the “tour” not found on retail versions.

So you mean that ball’s not off the rack?

Hahaha…..sorry, couldn’t resist :-D

not sure if i am rightor not,but it looked like his
putter had a ping grip

not sure if i am rightor not,but it looked like his
putter had a ping grip

Has had a Ping grip since high school. There were stages where his sponsors would have him try their attempt to replicate it (Titleist, Nike) but none have lasted very long.

He used a Ping Anser style putter growing up hence the obvious comfort with that grip.

I dont really understand how the engineers at the oven cant mix up a polymer to exactly match that grip unless there is some kind of patent infringement issue. Needless to say it gets a lot of attention when people see it for the first time.

Just some useless info for the masses …

This is the (much maligned) putter that dropped putts like crazy in the WGC Cadillac event – Method 001. As known he still uses the Nike One Tour D. If you look closely you can see a star icon in between the “one” and the “tour” <nobr>not found</nobr> on retail versions.

Putter looks like a ping answer or a Odessey, nothing special really except the name on it, which really has no influence on the ball.

Arent Nike balls made in Srixon factory ?

Just some useless info for the masses …

This is the (much maligned) putter that dropped putts like crazy in the WGC Cadillac event – Method 001. As known he still uses the Nike One Tour D. If you look closely you can see a star icon in between the “one” and the “tour” <nobr>not found</nobr> on retail versions.

Putter looks like a ping answer or a Odessey, nothing special really except the name on it, which really has no influence on the ball.

Arent Nike balls made in Srixon factory ?

VTPP 0482

OOM winner Patterson River 2010

A grade winner Sunshine OOM#4 2012

Winning team in Beaconhills Invitational Classic 2012

2012 Rotary Ambrose Champions “All Star Team” Member.

Srixon Balls are made in Japan, Nike in China. The balls are also nothing alike in look or feel. Obviously Tiger has a much softer prototype than the Nike balls off the shelf. As they’re complete rock pieces of shit that no half decent golfer uses.

Just some useless info for the masses …

This is the (much maligned) putter that dropped putts like crazy in the WGC Cadillac event – Method 001. As known he still uses the Nike One Tour D. If you look closely you can see a star icon in between the “one” and the “tour” <nobr>not found</nobr> on retail versions.

Putter looks like a ping answer or a Odessey, nothing special really except the name on it, which really has no influence on the ball.

Arent Nike balls made in Srixon factory ?

VTPP 0482

OOM winner Patterson River 2010

A grade winner Sunshine OOM#4 2012

Winning team in Beaconhills Invitational Classic 2012

2012 Rotary Ambrose Champions “All Star Team” Member.

Srixon Balls are made in Japan, Nike in China. The balls are also nothing alike in look or feel. Obviously Tiger has a much softer prototype than the Nike balls off the shelf. As they’re complete rock pieces of shit that no half decent golfer uses.

Obviously you’ve never actually tried a Nike ball?

I’m intrigued by the 2013 Nike One RZN-x balls, they sound like the “holy grail” for me

http://www.mygolfspy.com/ni...

Nike balls were made in the US / Japan and China.

They are currently made in Japan / China and Taiwan with
the actual Tour balls mainly coming from the Bridgestone
factory in Japan. whilst they keep working on their Taiwan
tour balls.

Just some useless info for the masses …

This is the (much maligned) putter that dropped putts like crazy in the WGC Cadillac event – Method 001. As known he still uses the Nike One Tour D. If you look closely you can see a star icon in between the “one” and the “tour” <nobr>not found</nobr> on retail versions.

Putter looks like a ping answer or a Odessey, nothing special really except the name on it, which really has no influence on the ball.

Arent Nike balls made in Srixon factory ?

VTPP 0482

OOM winner Patterson River 2010

A grade winner Sunshine OOM#4 2012

Winning team in Beaconhills Invitational Classic 2012

2012 Rotary Ambrose Champions “All Star Team” Member.

Srixon Balls are made in Japan, Nike in China. The balls are also nothing alike in look or feel. Obviously Tiger has a much softer prototype than the Nike balls off the shelf. As they’re complete rock pieces of shit that no half decent golfer uses.

Obviously you’ve never actually tried a Nike ball?

“If Ben Hogan saw that, he’d puke…”

“Competitive pricing” doesnt seem to be in the vocabulary of Axis golf. Either that or their definition of it is incorrect.

The One tour’s were an awesome ball. I can see why Tiger still uses them, but it’s common knowledge that Tiger uses a different blend in his Tour D, a very soft construction similar to what was common 10+ years ago. Balata-ish almost. Imagine if he started using a modern ball???

Nike balls were made in the US / Japan and China.

They are currently made in Japan / China and Taiwan with
the actual Tour balls mainly coming from the Bridgestone
factory in Japan. whilst they keep working on their Taiwan
tour balls.

Boz, if it’s the same machinery being used to output the same chemical formulas, how much difference is there in a largely automated process to the end product produced in different locations? How much can the human operators f things up if human input is limited?

Hi Mub,

Good question,,, ok the Japanese balls have come from a
factory that has 30 years or more of premium ball experience
and I don’t think they have told Nike exactly how they do what
they do, where as the 20X1’s are coming out of a new plant from
what I understand that has been making urethane balls for 3
years?

Each OEM supplier has their own way of producing balls, Nike
does not design balls so has to look to each factory to offer
designs that they do best.

Another way to look at it is all the ball companies have been trying
to make a ball that feels like the ProV1 since 2000 and in general
I don’t think any one has actually succeeded, close but not the real
feel and sound,,,,they have all though got a lot closer to the ProV1X though as it has been such a hard ball internally and
as such more like many other multilayer tour balls.

Cheers, Boz

Srixon Balls are made in Japan,

Not so your honour
According to the boxes the following Srixon balls are made in Indonesia

Srixon Distance
Srixon soft feel
Srixon AD333
Srixon Q star

Yes Bridgestone and Srixon run 2 piece ball plants in Indonesia.

Just some useless info for the masses …

This is the (much maligned) putter that dropped putts like crazy in the WGC Cadillac event – Method 001. As known he still uses the Nike One Tour D. If you look closely you can see a star icon in between the “one” and the “tour” <nobr>not found</nobr> on retail versions.

Putter looks like a ping answer or a Odessey, nothing special really except the name on it, which really has no influence on the ball.

Arent Nike balls made in Srixon factory ?

VTPP 0482

OOM winner Patterson River 2010

A grade winner Sunshine OOM#4 2012

Winning team in Beaconhills Invitational Classic 2012

2012 Rotary Ambrose Champions “All Star Team” Member.

Srixon Balls are made in Japan, Nike in China. The balls are also nothing alike in look or feel. Obviously Tiger has a much softer prototype than the Nike balls off the shelf. As they’re complete rock pieces of shit that no half decent golfer uses.

Obviously you’ve never actually tried a Nike ball?

“If Ben Hogan saw that, he’d puke…”

Obviously I have or I wouldn’t have known how shit they are. Performance wise they’re tour balls are ok. They don’t really spin anything like a pro v1 or z star. They are without doubt the hardest feeling tour ball I’ve used though. Boz said they’re similar to a pro vx. Although I think they feel much harder off the clubface. You just need to look at top level amateur stuff, no one really plays Nike or callaway tour balls. They’re just not yet in the same class as the others

Just some useless info for the masses …

This is the (much maligned) putter that dropped putts like crazy in the WGC Cadillac event – Method 001. As known he still uses the Nike One Tour D. If you look closely you can see a star icon in between the “one” and the “tour” <nobr>not found</nobr> on retail versions.

Putter looks like a ping answer or a Odessey, nothing special really except the name on it, which really has no influence on the ball.

Arent Nike balls made in Srixon factory ?

VTPP 0482

OOM winner Patterson River 2010

A grade winner Sunshine OOM#4 2012

Winning team in Beaconhills Invitational Classic 2012

2012 Rotary Ambrose Champions “All Star Team” Member.

Srixon Balls are made in Japan, Nike in China. The balls are also nothing alike in look or feel. Obviously Tiger has a much softer prototype than the Nike balls off the shelf. As they’re complete rock pieces of shit that no half decent golfer uses.

Obviously you’ve never actually tried a Nike ball?

“If Ben Hogan saw that, he’d puke…”

Obviously I have or I wouldn’t have known how shit they are. Performance wise they’re tour balls are ok. They don’t really spin anything like a pro v1 or z star. They are without doubt the hardest feeling tour ball I’ve used though. Boz said they’re similar to a pro vx. Although I think they feel much harder off the clubface. You just need to look at top level amateur stuff, no one really plays Nike or callaway tour balls. They’re just not yet in the same class as the others

Oh brother … [facepalm]

Obviously I have or I wouldn’t have known how shit they are. Performance wise they’re tour balls are ok. They don’t really spin anything like a pro v1 or z star. They are without doubt the hardest feeling tour ball I’ve used though. Boz said they’re similar to a pro vx. Although I think they feel much harder off the clubface. You just need to look at top level amateur stuff, no one really plays Nike or callaway tour balls. They’re just not yet in the same class as the others

Hahaha. Ok.

Obviously I have or I wouldn’t have known how shit they are. Performance wise they’re tour balls are ok. They don’t really spin anything like a pro v1 or z star. They are without doubt the hardest feeling tour ball I’ve used though. Boz said they’re similar to a pro vx. Although I think they feel much harder off the clubface. You just need to look at top level amateur stuff, no one really plays Nike or callaway tour balls. They’re just not yet in the same class as the others

Hahaha. Ok.

“If Ben Hogan saw that, he’d puke…”

Nice reply.

If your talking about the balls other than 20Xi in the current line up- then your probably correct. However the 20xi, One Tour and One tour D are exceptional balls and spin as much if not more than a ProV and definitely more than a Zstar. I’ve seen it on the course and Ive seen it on a flightscope, numbers dont lie. Zstar is a nice ball but it just doesnt spin like a V1 or a 20xi or a TP5 even. There is no such thing as a “rock piece of shit” tour ball especially if you take an objective approach to evaluating performance.

Hi Bushy,

Good points,,,,,,,

The One Tour and One Tour D are Bridgestone designs and as
such very good balls with many years of joint development involved
between Nike and Bridgestone.

These balls have been very popular in the US in the past but I
don’t believe they are currently available at retail any more as
that deal is not in play any more even though there is stock on
hand for players.

Titleist has always kept some older lines alive as well if enough
Tour players asked them to. Players don’t like balls to change to
much as they like to TRUST what they know and NEW is always
an unknown as a player.

The 20X1 S (Taiwan) 2011/12 spins as much as any other
urethane covered ball but it feels firm within on partial wedge shots
and sometimes a bit clunky on full iron shots.

The newer S version is better but as I have seen in the past they
still have some work to do in maintaining ball speed numbers
whilst obtaining the feel and sound they need to convert more
players.

I would think Rory is playing with a Japan Nike (Bridgestone) ball
at present as they are closer to the Titleist models.

They have been good at maintaining premium prices world wide
like Titleist has as that is the only way to pay for the large amount
of advertising and promotional expenses you incur when doing
the tour validation approach to marketing.

Cheers,
Boz.

If your talking about the balls other than 20Xi in the current line up- then your probably correct. However the 20xi, One Tour and One tour D are exceptional balls and spin as much if not more than a ProV and definitely more than a Zstar. I’ve seen it on the course and Ive seen it on a flightscope, numbers dont lie. Zstar is a nice ball but it just doesnt spin like a V1 or a 20xi or a TP5 even. There is no such thing as a “rock piece of shit” tour ball especially if you take an objective approach to evaluating performance.

“If Ben Hogan saw that, he’d puke…”

I was given a few sleeves of 20xi S to test. I used one and the rest haven’t been touched. By saying rock I’m referring more to the feel of the ball. The only other tour ball that has a harder feel is the old Callaway tour 56. The 20xi is extremely hard and has distictive loud bang off the driver face, very loud click off the putter. A similar sound to a cheap hard two piece ball. Which I believe is due to the resin used to make the core? In a golf ball I look for feel around the greens, as do most better players. While the ball may spin ok on wedge it just feels horrible. A lot of reviews which can be found online by golf digest etc commented on the hard feel.

As for spin rates I can’t really find any stats online for the 20xi that back up or disprove what you’re saying. I can only go on my own experience. I feel a pretty good indicator is the fact that in all the years I’ve played top level amateur golf in this country I’ve never seen anyone play a Nike ball. To be honest I’ve never seen a Callaway ball played either and only a few Taylormade pentas. This is much better indicator than professional golf as no one is paid to use a certain ball and no one has the option of playing softer prototypes which aren’t available on the shelves.

If your talking about the balls other than 20Xi in the current line up- then your probably correct. However the 20xi, One Tour and One tour D are exceptional balls and spin as much if not more than a ProV and definitely more than a Zstar. I’ve seen it on the course and Ive seen it on a flightscope, numbers dont lie. Zstar is a nice ball but it just doesnt spin like a V1 or a 20xi or a TP5 even. There is no such thing as a “rock piece of shit” tour ball especially if you take an objective approach to evaluating performance.

“If Ben Hogan saw that, he’d puke…”

... I can only go on my own experience. I feel a pretty good indicator is the fact that in all the years I’ve played top level amateur golf in this country I’ve never seen anyone play a Nike ball. To be honest I’ve never seen a Callaway ball played either and only a few Taylormade pentas. This is much better indicator than professional golf as no one is paid to use a certain ball and no one has the option of playing softer prototypes which aren’t available on the shelves.

Are you serious? With all due respect, all that “proves” is you have not seem them used. How many people are we talking about in this ‘sample’? Were you even looking for what balls were being played? I’m sorry but before something is condemned, let’s put it in perspective.

There is a MASSIVE difference between the Nike gear professionals use and the gear available to the general public.

The difference is far greater than any other brand and by a long way.

If your talking about the balls other than 20Xi in the current line up- then your probably correct. However the 20xi, One Tour and One tour D are exceptional balls and spin as much if not more than a ProV and definitely more than a Zstar. I’ve seen it on the course and Ive seen it on a flightscope, numbers dont lie. Zstar is a nice ball but it just doesnt spin like a V1 or a 20xi or a TP5 even. There is no such thing as a “rock piece of shit” tour ball especially if you take an objective approach to evaluating performance.

“If Ben Hogan saw that, he’d puke…”

... I can only go on my own experience. I feel a pretty good indicator is the fact that in all the years I’ve played top level amateur golf in this country I’ve never seen anyone play a Nike ball. To be honest I’ve never seen a Callaway ball played either and only a few Taylormade pentas. This is much better indicator than professional golf as no one is paid to use a certain ball and no one has the option of playing softer prototypes which aren’t available on the shelves.

Are you serious? With all due respect, all that “proves” is you have not seem them used. How many people are we talking about in this ‘sample’? Were you even looking for what balls were being played? I’m sorry but before something is condemned, let’s put it in perspective.

I’m generally aware as to what balls my playing partners/opponents are using. It’s not like a Wednesday comp where you rock up and tee off. Markings and balls are compared before tee off.

I do recall a few American blokes playing Nike balls a few years back before the 20xi rocks were released. The Nike one tour was definately a softer feeling ball and I would guess much more popular in the USA than Australia.

At big events such as national amateurs and state opens players are also asked to write down what equipment they play on the registration sheets. There is a very long line of Titleist and the odd other type of ball thrown in. Usually Srixon.