What are the various likely combinations if someone incorrectly mixes their putting stroke, with an incorrectly balanced putter?

Eg if you putt straight back, straight through and use a face balanced, you should go straight.
But if you are sbst, and use a toe balanced or toe hang, your putts are more likely to…...what exactly?

Or vice versa, if you putt with an arc, but use face balanced, your putts will….what?

Miss to the left or right? Come up short or go a bit long?

I use a face balanced putter, and putt pretty much SBST, and still miss heaps :-)

Depends on the ball position.

No matter which error is present eg, if either the clubface is rotating due to its own design on a straight back and thru swing …... or your hands are rotating in an arc with a putter designed for straight back and thru …....... you’ll miss, one way or another a fair bit.

The swingpath and clubface (if using the two opposites) ......... will only be matched for a very short time, so if the ball is not in the exact position where the swingpath delivers the face perfectly square to your target line …....... then you will miss.

That miss could be either one side of the hole or the other depending on the variation between face and path at the point of contact.

It won’t however effect distance much if any ........... just accuracy.

Putters are balanced ? really ?

What is SBST also ?

My poor old 31 yr old ping is probably bent and seems to work ok, I know the shaft has been straightened dozens of times ;-)

Too much info will do your head in…..

What is SBST also ?

I learnt this at ballroom dance classes
Step Back, Step together…

straight back, straight through , you buffoons.

Hey Coddy, what model is the Ping?

straight back, straight through , you buffoons.

Attempting to play golf since 2001.

Ahhhh, is there another way ?

Razaar, it’s one of those silver anser 2’s (had to check that hehe), the old man bought it for me while i was a junior, never had the need to change. tried one of those 2 balls when they come out, putted short great just could not get the depth right. the old girl (putter) has been stress tested and i even checked it’s aerodynamics over the years, we’ve had good times and bad but we just get on ;-)

What are the various likely combinations if someone incorrectly mixes their putting stroke, with an incorrectly balanced putter?

Eg if you putt straight back, straight through and use a face balanced, you should go straight.
But if you are sbst, and use a toe balanced or toe hang, your putts are more likely to……what exactly?

Or vice versa, if you putt with an arc, but use face balanced, your putts will….what?

Miss to the left or right? Come up short or go a bit long?

Mate, once we have a putting technique, putting well is really about confidence. Confidence in our stroke or method and confidence in the instrument we putt with. As Coddy hinted, the less complicated the better. The only way to gain confidence is to succeed. Confidence breeds success and success breeds confidence.

The questions you raise are best answered by working through it yourself on a practice putting green IMO.

Coddy, do you know if it is berrillium nickel BeNi. If it is it is quite rare.
http://www.best-putter.com/...

Geez I could post you a pic of my putter…. and a few of the Vic Isgr’s could pass comment on it too.

Really?? Balanced putters, straight face putters rotating heads.. what the??

If there’s one thing in golf I know… if you think too much about putting you’ll f it up. Get the basics right. move the putter head through the line you want the ball to travel and judge the speed.

Some days it’s on. Some days it’s not. Like every other part of the game.

Find a putter that you feel comfortable with and go with it.

I can’t remember where when or how I came by my putter but it has a brass head with Peter Thompsons name on it, has a tatty leather grip and a rusted shaft.

Granted, I’ve never won a putting comp but I’ve never lost one either!

Coddy, do you know if it is berrillium nickel BeNi. If it is it is quite rare.
http://www.best-putter.com/...

The man who hits at the ball rather than through it has no sense of rhythm.
Secrets of the Master – The Best of Bobby Jones

No it’s a standard silver one, nothing special i think. my brother is a collector. he paid $1200 US about 20 years ago for one particular unused rare ping anser, not sure what it is. he has probably 20 ping putters, all rare or important for some reason.

He get’s them out very rarely and cracks it when i try and have a putt, must be expensive i assume.

Geez I could post you a pic of my putter…. and a few of the Vic Isgr’s could pass comment on it too.

I can’t remember where when or how I came by my putter but it has a brass head with Peter Thompsons name on it, has a tatty leather grip and a rusted shaft.

Granted, I’ve never won a putting comp but I’ve never lost one either!

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If you drink, don’t drive. Don’t even putt. ~Dean Martin

I think I’ve seen your putter HF…......one similar to an old one I have in storage now but used to use. I lent it to Codboy once, when he left his at Yarrawonga. I think it’s got “Knox” stamped on it but it’s got a rusted shaft and works fine with a bit of practice.

That would be Keith Knox. My dad used them a long, long time ago

That would be Keith Knox. My dad used them a long, long time ago

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I’m not that old VC. ;-)

Played with hot fuzz last weekend.
His old putter looks like he has used it to knock in star pole pickets and survey pegs.
Had two types of grip on it ir was it one grip worn off??
and a 3 foot piece of tape hanging off it.
Felt nice and heavy tho.

So what balanced putter works with what kind of stroke precisely? I think I’ve heard you can tell the balance by holding it horizontal and seeing where the head orientates itself? Is this correct? Interesting.

A putter where the balance point of the putter face (the point on a putter face where the head would balance on a needle point) is the same as the Cerntre of Percussion or sweet spot is what I would call a balanced putter.

There are putters that are face balanced, toe balanced and heel balanced which is determined on where the shaft if extended would meet the head. Centre, heel side of the centre or the toe side of centre respectively. I have putted with all three and most neck designs (I used to collect putters) and have yet to be convinced that a stroke fits a putter based on whether it is centre, toe or heel balanced.

Played with hot fuzz last weekend.
His old putter looks like he has used it to knock in star pole pickets and survey pegs.
Had two types of grip on it ir was it one grip worn off??
and a 3 foot piece of tape hanging off it.
Felt nice and heavy tho.

Always Always stand behind when playing in Shreks group
hosel rockets are soooo un predictable

Not quite knocking in starpickets but it has given some golf balls a fair drop kick send off back down the fairway they just traversed…..

It has a screw sticking out the top of the grip and a couple of pieces of electrical tap to hold the original leather grip on the putter itself. maybe I like the feel or maybe i’m too tight to buy a new grip let alone a new putter…... ;) (liking the feel of leather jokes can be posted after quoting this….)

I hope one day to perhaps pass it down to a HF the 2nd if he/she wants to play this game…

I reckon Hotfuzz’s putter needs a thread of it’s own…

“My putter is as old as….. “

Seriously though, the man is right. Why over complicate putting. Get something that is comfortable and you are confident with. Smooth stroke, keep alignment with where you aim (whether you read it right is another thing) and keep the lines straight.

I’d putt with a hockey stick if it was comfortable and gave me results.

And that’s HotFuzz’s theory. His old piece of Bronze Age scrap metal works him and he’s a better than average putter.

A putter where the balance point of the putter face (the point on a putter face where the head would balance on a needle point) is the same as the Cerntre of Percussion or sweet spot is what I would call a balanced putter.

There are putters that are face balanced, toe balanced and heel balanced which is determined on where the shaft if extended would meet the head. Centre, heel side of the centre or the toe side of centre respectively. I have putted with all three and most neck designs (I used to collect putters) and have yet to be convinced that a stroke fits a putter based on whether it is centre, toe or heel balanced.

The man who hits at the ball rather than through it has no sense of rhythm.
Secrets of the Master – The Best of Bobby Jones

100%with you there Raz. As long as it is square at contact and square with the target, it will work.

I heard a story about Phil Mickelson making straight putts spin by cutting across the ball in his stroke, and making them bend (not in comp). I called bullshit, but wouldn’t know for sure.

I analysed where I missed most of my putts and it was right – NOT by much but missing right I was

so I looked at scotty cameron’s webiste and they had information on each putter design

2 or 3 putter designs would assits this (amount of offset)

I use the Laguna 1.5 which has like 1/4 offset…

loft is 4 degrees I play on slowish and slightly bumpy greens so left loft gets the ball rolling quicker…

essentially with webistes and some info from our club pro I chose this putter – kinda like fitting myself

one last point – you must lobe the look of your putter…why?

because its the slowest moving club you own – you actually see it move when you swing it…

its the one you carry the most as in you often get it our and hold it for quite some time while others putt out and so forth

YOU must love the putter you have – you must absolutely love it with no second thought of not loving it.

Its probabaly the one you use the most when practicing also….

find a putter that works but you also love the look of it also

and for me its my SC laguna 1.5

Good points Dave… I most definitely don’t love my putter… Should I putt with my 3 wood?

Seriously though, an awesome putter is the next thing on the shopping list… in 2014…

A putter where the balance point of the putter face (the point on a putter face where the head would balance on a needle point) is the same as the Cerntre of Percussion or sweet spot is what I would call a balanced putter.

There are putters that are face balanced, toe balanced and heel balanced which is determined on where the shaft if extended would meet the head. Centre, heel side of the centre or the toe side of centre respectively. I have putted with all three and most neck designs (I used to collect putters) and have yet to be convinced that a stroke fits a putter based on whether it is centre, toe or heel balanced.

The man who hits at the ball rather than through it has no sense of rhythm.
Secrets of the Master – The Best of Bobby Jones

100%with you there Raz. As long as it is square at contact and square with the target, it will work.

I heard a story about Phil Mickelson making straight putts spin by cutting across the ball in his stroke, and making them bend (not in comp). I called bullshit, but wouldn’t know for sure.

Attempting to play golf since 2001.

I have a really nice scotty Cameron fast back and still prefer my odyssey white ice dart.
The scotty is an absolutely beautiful club but alas, I hit the other better ! :(