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Whats the ruling - IN a house
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Wifey managed to put on through a window and into a house tonite. Needless to say, I’m proud of her. :) Anyways, who would you rule pay for it? We say the guy should expect a golf ball hit from time to time when he is so damn close to the hole. He thinks otherwise. Clubhouse says we have no reason to pay up because he is supposed to have insurace for it and if he doesn’t, tough luck for him. I should add the guy was a confrontational ass, and I told her she was going to have to play it where it lies. He didn’t think it was so funny.
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I think it is mandatory over here (Oz that is) that the golf course has the insurance cover for these type instances. Don’t you guys put up protective fencing or anything along residential parts of the course? As far as playing it as it lies, should have made it even harder in that she had to go back out throught he same hole she had made on the way in.
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I thought the ruling was the house gets to keep the ball :)
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if he doesn’t want to pay for broken windows he should move… There’s a council road cuts across the front of the first and tenth tee at Queanbeyan, you should hear the crap bounce off the fan when a car driver gets the f scared out of them. There has actually be instances of balls being driven through the drivers side and out the passengers side windows….now that’s a problem and a half…. No, golf clubs won’t ever pay for damage, it’s not their problem. As long as they can prove they have taken reasonable actions to prevent injury. I suppose there would be an argument if the golf course was built after the houses were built, but only then. I actually had a guy abuse me because I hit a ball into his front yard when him and his moronic family was standing there admiring the view at sunset. He called me an idiot and asked me if I knew what golf was! Didn’t I know I had to hit the ball up the fairway? I asked for my ball back and he wouldn’t give it to me. So I laughed and walked off…he kept yelling at me but I just shook my head and waved back. Come on, these people want their cake and eat it too. They want the nice quiet green outlook, with no cars, pretty birdies, etc but when it comes and bites them every now and then, they want compensation too??? Tell the guy to get a life…
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I was always under the impression that the player was responsible for any damage and I have played courses that have signs posted that refer to that. If you’re playing cricket in the park and you hit the ball through someone’s front or car window, is that still not your responsibility, even if the park was there first? It’s not fair to say that someone should have to pay for a new window because someone can’t hit a ball straight. Would you feel the same way if some drunken bogans were intentionally hitting balls at your house?
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If I hit someones car while playing cricket, I would not expect them to ask me to pay and same if someone hit mine. Parking near a cricket field you are asking for trouble, and so you do so at your own risk as far as im concerned.
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every golf course car park I have parked in has the same signs, “You park here at your own risk!” or something similar….
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The Melbourne Age – September 12, 2004 Social and club golfers should ensure they are covered by insurance before they even think about teeing off, the Victorian Golf Association has warned. Executive director Doug Fox said golfers, particularly green fee golfers, should make sure they have public liability insurance cover. “You would expect that a large number who have a hit at golf haven’t even thought about the issue of whether they have public liability cover,” he said. “They may have insurance through their home policy, or they may have been pro-active in seeking that out, but I suspect that proportion is low, and a smart thing for them to do would be to take something out.” In Victoria, about 360,000 people play golf. Of those, 125,000 are registered members of golf clubs, compared with about 235,000 green fee paying golfers. Mr Fox said that, while many registered golfers were already covered by their golf club, many green-fee golfers might not be protected. Some may also be covered by their household contents policies, he said, but urged golfers to check whether those policies include public liability outside of their homes.
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Our club, some years ago was made to shorten a par 3 (180 to 155 ) and change the position of the green, about 15 metres ,further away from a road, because the Insurance company indicated that they would refuse to pay claims for car damage unless we did. An occasional ball still goes over, but the player is covered by the club policy.
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i’m not sure of those signs mean s*&T, our club has that but the council or insurance pay for damage .
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Ahhhhh the age old question… who pays… I would say walk away from it all but generally some clubs will pay out of goodwill to keep the peace with neighbours… but i bet those whinging neighbours would be the first to say when they describe their home that it “backs onto a golf course” as a boast to mates… As for the cricket field problem its even better when you hit a six and it damages the bowlers’ car.. did that once. twas a supreme stroke and quite frankly pure luck… if I mistimed would of been lbw or leading edge lollipop back to bowler…
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cannonball !!! in Caddyshack when the ball went into Carl Spackler’s house, Ty Webb was required to have a drink, a smoke and then play it from where it lay. hope that helps?????
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Why didn’t you just shoot him?
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The governing phrase in this situation is Duty Of Care.
A bad day on the golf course is better than no golf at all.
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My FIL sent one through a window in his younger day’s I think the course was Redcliffe, the layout has since changed, and the guy wasn’t phased one bit as he said the club cover’s any damage to house or car… but that was a while ago. I thought the same as broso posted, that you would’ve just popped him. I see Washigton was made safer today no more ban on handguns i bet the police breathed a sigh of relief.
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Oh no Don,t start that thread again , Please.
A bad day on the golf course is better than no golf at all.
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I think its fairly pointless asking this forum Racinfarmer as the laws over here are quite different from most parts of the US. From my knowledge it falls under Civil liability which is measured on the balance of probability and the degree of negligence will differ with each incident. Therefore you would be more liable if you intentionally hit a ball over the road hoping to draw it back on the wind and happened to get the old straight ball through the window of a car than you would if you hit it nowhere near the road but it bounced off a tree, etc. There are levels of contributary negligence. If the club has taken no action to stop balls crossing towards houses or roads where it is obvious that this may happen e.g the road runs closely alongside the fairway and there is no fence or trees planted – then the club has a level of responsiblity. We used to have a hole where the car park was only 5 metres from the edge of a green and the fence was only 2 metres high. The carpark wasn’t even OB initially – you got a free drop. I drifted one on the wind one day into the carpark and landed it fair and square on the bonnet of my fathers car, while he was standing at the boot getting his clubs out. He came out onto the fairway about to abuse someone and we both pissed ourselves laughing when we realised the irony of the situation. The club insurance policy paid for that one without any problems
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Couldn’t resist just poking fun at Racin :-)
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I would have shot him, but I didn’t have my .50 cal rifle in the bag…
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What happened Racin,did you forget to put it back in the bag after practicing at home :}o
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Would you want another 37 pounds to carry around in your golf bag?
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The price of a buggy all the time in case such a scenario happens is a bit prohibitive I spose.There would have to be one shaped like a tank or a Hummer somewhere in America wouldn’t there
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Know some people who live right on the boundary of a course,they often have damage from errant shots and my understanding is the golf club has always met the cost of repairs probably through insurance.
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If he was decent about it you might feel like you could meet him half way….but seeing as was a total ass about it, fuck him…you get what you deserve in life, and he sounds like he deserves a slap! As you were without your shooter you should have decked him with your driver!
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He is right in one sense although possession is still 9/10s of the law. It would probably be seen more leniently since the item was found in his yard. Its the same if you find $50 sitting ont he ground. Legally if you make no attempt to find an owner then you are committing an offence. If you carried a rifle in your golf bag, would you only be allowed 13 clubs????
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