TPC Sawgrass

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What are your thoughts on this amazing course?
The finishing 4 holes make for terrific golf viewing.
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Great coverage on Fox Sports with Brett Ogle’s commentary.

GO SERGIO!

I love having somewhere to talk about this shit!

 

Coverage is pretty good, especially with BOgle in the box, he’s a legend. The course is the epitome of American target golf which is the type of golf course design I dislike and can make for boring golf. However considering that Sawgrass was carved out of Florida swamp for the sole purpose of hosting this tournament I guess it makes no attempt to be a strategic course. I also feel that 17 is a bit gimmicky to be a potentially tournament defining hole. While I don’t like this target golf concept because it creates no strategic options there’s no denying that it does make an exciting tounament venue.

Go Sergio – he’s due!

 

If Sergio could putt, it would be Tiger who?

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We have a play off !!.... agree , what a great golf course, fantastic viewing and Brett Ogle is terrific on the coverage.

"Golf is played between the ears"

 

Yeah ogle is great and sergio is the man. He putted well today, besides that 16th hole. I think the 17th is a great hole.

 

Robbo

Actually I didn’t find the course all that endearing – save for a few holes around the finish.

 

It was disappointing that the tournament was decided on the 17th in that fashion. That’s what i mean that it is a bit gimmicky. There are no options on an island green – including no options for a brilliant recovery shot when one has missed the green to continue the play off.

However Sergio was a well deserved winner, with his ball striking this week it really should not have been a play off in reality if he had holed his share of putts.

 

What is disappointing about having a playoff hole on a short par 3?

 

I agree, with the wind that strong (and fluky) the 17th effectively turned the playoff into a lottery.

Kudos to Sergio for sticking it to 4 feet, but I would like to see how many times he could do it from 10 attempts.

Reverse every natural instinct you have and do just the opposite of what you are inclined to do and you will probably come very close to having a perfect golf swing. - BEN HOGAN, POWER GOLF

 

What is disappointing about having a playoff hole on a short par 3?

It’s disappointing because the hole is gimmicky, as Muntz said it turned the play off into a lottery in that wind. A great golf hole should reward a great shot yet still provide the player with an opportunity to play an equally great recovery shot if their first shot was not great. With a target golf course like TPC, and the 17th especially, there is no opportunity for such a recovery.

 

Well said BuggeraCup….

17 is a hole that is just a gimmick and undermines the aspirations of the TPC to be considered a major. Then to use it for a sudden-death playoff cheapens its “major” mojo even further….

There’s no strategy except to hit the green….and as indicated, the lottery type situation re the wind for the play-off is too severe.

A poor choice by the PGA tour officials for using it as the hole to decide the tournament.

 

Well, you can also aim for the path like Sergio did earlier in the week. :) But that didn’t work out so well for him either.

It might be OK if the green was more receptive but some “good” wedges took a hop or two and still ended up in the drink. The margin for error is just too narrow, a little bit off with your yardage plus an unexpected gust of wind and hey presto you can mark down a double bogey and get to have another crack from the drop zone. You might as well just spin a wheel.

Ernie was steaming when his otherwise excellent first round got hijacked by the 17th. He would have been pretty close to the tournament lead for most of Sunday if you take that triple bogey out.

The 17th makes for “exciting” viewing (the PGA tour web site had a live feed online) but IMHO more suitable to the XBox than an elite, prestigious tournament.

Reverse every natural instinct you have and do just the opposite of what you are inclined to do and you will probably come very close to having a perfect golf swing. - BEN HOGAN, POWER GOLF

 

the 17th at Sagrass exists for the ‘wow’ factor. If it didn’t, then someone would be building another one somewhere else.

Personally, I like the course and the hole. Yes, I wouldn’t like to see one of the four majors decided on it, but, its something different for the players and viewers alike.

..i'll come up with one soon..

 

what are you guys sooking about.

its a large green. its 130 yards. its only a wedge.

if there was no water a pro would be so mad at himself for missing the green.

pros would be expecting to birdie this hole 90% of the time if there was no water.

its the water factor that gets to them. its a battle of nerves.

pros always complain about tough golf courses.I would rather watch a comp where the winner is -6 than one where the winner is -19 or even better.

Its a challenging course that beautifully designed.

the pros need to stop crying about courses like sawgrass and oakmont and step up to the challenge.

 

it’s a lottery

according to his caddy Goydos hit his wedge perfectly, it just caught a gust of wind and came down a smidge short…

tournament over

no chance to make an up and down to keep the playoff going

Reverse every natural instinct you have and do just the opposite of what you are inclined to do and you will probably come very close to having a perfect golf swing. - BEN HOGAN, POWER GOLF

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