Should he be payed/should they pay Tiger to play in the Australian Masters?

I see the positive and negative to this negotiation that is taking place.

What do you guys think of the Australian Tour paying Tiger Woods 3 million dollars as an appearance fee to play in the Masters down there??>

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personally i would like to see him play at royal melbourne which apparently tiger rates as the best course he has played but to get him down for a game at huntingdale may not work
3m thats a lot of money on top of any prizemoney

Still there are some who loose that at the races on a bad day

I don’t think so….. ludicrous I say. In this day and age of cable TV we see enough of the great man. If he played at a course like Huntingdale you would not get near him as the crowds would be massive. Why continue to line his pockets and his enormous back up staff. He will appear in The Presidents Cup in a few years time for no appearance fee. Tiger is fantastic and the place would be a sell out and I would have to think the organisers would break even if it went ahead. I am against paying appearance money and I think the fee demanded by the Wood’s group is outrageous. I ask you … “what appearance money does Tiger Woods demand in the USA?”

3 mill is a drop in the ocean for some of these companies. So just pay it, raise the ticket price to $50 p/day and double all the other corporate marquee costs.

Tiger can come out, play half a practice round, thurs and fri, miss the cut then go home quickly. Who needs a mustard jacket when you have green one’s in the closet.

I think he’s definitely worth it.

There was an debate not too long ago about this on a radio station (3AW?) about whether its worth having the Grand Prix continue to run in Melb or to pay Tiger Woods to come here.

With comparisons like that, it doesn’t seem so ludicrous to pay somebody so unique and talented to travel half way around the world to play in an Australian tournament or exhibition.

The funny thing is we have Aussies, Adam Scott for example who rarely come back to their home country to play in any of our tournaments…who, aren’t anywhere near the golfer Tiger is. Come to think of it, I can’t remember Scott playing in last years Aus PGA / Aus Open or Aus Masters?

Tiger lives in the USA, all the money is over there so naturally he wouldn’t get appearance money for playing in the US, he HAS to (play in the PGA tour) in order to keep his No.1 world ranking status.

Sure we’re all golf heads but anyone who’s even slightly interested in the game knows who Tiger Woods is, many people I know who don’t play but appreciate the sport would love to see him play live.

And yeah if he came here for the masters / aus open, you’d struggle to see him close up on the course, he’d create more interest in the game coming here.

It would be nice to see golf like it was when Nicklaus, Palmer and Player regularly visited our shores. Appearance money is always an issue. I don’t think Tiger has won in Australia. Maybe that should be some sort of incentive to come down here. Not 3mil which is pocket change to him.

3 mill is a drop in the ocean for some of these companies. So just pay it, raise the ticket price to $50 p/day and double all the other corporate marquee costs.

The usual arguments in these scenarios are:

• How far can we raise prices without decreasing crowds vis-a-vis increasing crowds through Tiger’s presence? What’s the price point where income is maximised?
• Do we risk putting other players (for an example, the five Australians in the World Top 50 who are expected to come here as part of their “national duty” for free) off side by paying Tiger a huge fee?
• Do we risk losing long-term public support by asking too much for gate prices?
• Do we really want to change these events from being reasonably egalitarian and affordable for the average Australian to an “elite” model that is only affordable to the well-off?

Those who want Tiger at an event like the Australian Masters should study the financials of the NZ Open when he played there in 2002. It was a disaster, partly because of weather, but also because they didn’t come anywhere near to selling enough high-priced tickets to cover the cost. They raised public ticket prices by up to 1000% thinking there’d be huge demand, but the crowd numbers went down correspondingly. Their price-point was all wrong, and it takes a long time to recover a customer that is spurned by high prices.

There has also been previous negative reactions to high gate prices here. At the 1998 President’s Cup many protested at the $400 season pass price, and at the 2001 World Matchplay they had to almost give away the tickets to get a crowd, such was the negative reaction to the high daily price (and that fact that for the money, lots of high-ranked golfers stayed away and the public didn’t get to see them anyway).

The only advantage we have now is that the exchange rate is US$1=A$0.95. When Woods got $US2 million in 2002, the exchange rate was so poor it equalled NZ$4 million. A hell of a lot to pay.

RETURN ON INVESTMENTS: So Tiger Woods didn’t win the Masters, but it didn’t stop Nike. With Trevor Immelman coming in first, Woods the runner up and Stewart Cink finishing in a tie for third, the Swoosh enjoyed marquee billing on the Masters’ CBS broadcast.
According to sponsorship evaluation company Joyce Julius & Associates, Nike and its golf brands appeared for approximately one-fifth of the entire broadcast, which it equated to nearly $25 million of in-broadcast exposure value.
Nike logos on the Masters Champion were on display for 31 minutes and 18 seconds in Sunday’s telecast representing $14.7 million in equivalent advertising time, according to the firm. Woods’ garnered—12 minutes and 57 seconds of exposure translating to $6.09 million in value. By comparison, Joyce Julius said that Zach Johnson’s win at last year’s Masters led to a combined exposure of $7.5 million for his sponsors.

Somebody should have sponsored the sky, trees and azaleas. They got more exposure than any of the players or their equipment.

It would be nice to see golf like it was when Nicklaus, Palmer and Player regularly visited our shores. Appearance money is always an issue. I don’t think Tiger has won in Australia. Maybe that should be some sort of incentive to come down here. Not 3mil which is pocket change to him.

Weren’t their trips subsidised by the late Kerry Packer? They stayed and partied with Packer at his house and around Oz.

Somebody should have sponsored the sky, trees and azaleas. They got more exposure than any of the players or their equipment.

Nicely put Dave! :)

yes it is and no it isnt…depending on what youre trying to achieve

If tiger rocks up and plays and doesnt do a lengthy interview or atlest some pr for the game of golf then its a waste

if does rock up and does an interview maybe meets a few up an comers in golf or under privalaged kids then its worth it

him just playing shouldnt be the sole focus…we can watch him every week on foxtel

the sums of money being discussed will mean a few up and coming players wont get a gig at the tournament…..all these sorts of issues need to be thought of

honestly the best chance of getting tiger here is getting a few of the aussies who are close mates with him to get in his ear….hensby, scott and Ogilvy get on well with him.

to me the money to him isnt just going to suddenly make him play here…..it has to be broader than that

I think you’d need to raise prices more than that to cover Tiger’s fee. It effectively triples the prize money budget for the event.

It will be a financial loss no matter what they do. Getting him here is more to do with giving the game a boost locally than trying to make a profit from it.

I think you’d need to raise prices more than that to cover Tiger’s fee. It effectively triples the prize money budget for the event.

It will be a financial loss no matter what they do. Getting him here is more to do with giving the game a boost locally than trying to make a profit from it.

Former Top 10 on the PGA Tour ISG Money List.

Unfortunately, I think it would then come down to no perceived profit, no sponsor. I can’t see anybody writing off a couple of mil just to get Tiger down under. It would be great to see one of the best golfers of all time in Oz, but sadly I think it will come down to waiting for the Preso Cup.

Somebody should have sponsored the sky, trees and azaleas. They got more exposure than any of the players or their equipment.

Nicely put Dave! :)

‘Follow-Through: The part of the swing that takes place after the ball has been hit, but before the club has been thrown.’

Couldn’t agree more. Where did the player Hogan Bridge finish? I saw him featurede every 6 minutes!

Didn’t NZ blow a couple mill last time they brought Tiger out? It would be a lose no matter which way you stacked it.

The man is a legend, but forking out that sort of cash does not seem to make sense?
I guess you need to think about the fans? pushing prices up, and then the circus you end up with??? Is he within reach of the average golfer? not any more… I would prefer getting the Aussie legends to support the tournaments more… Scott, Apples, etc, etc and give the young fans some chance of seeing some local hero’s up close…

there is 1 record tiger will never break and that is the 5 aus open titles jack nicklaus won. if he wants to be regarded as the best to ever play the game he should come here and play for a title not a turnup fee.

sb

And how many other times are we likely to see him in the flesh if the $$$$$ are not put up??

There isn’t a bigger drawcard in golf in the WORLD currently, and with the $AU as it is this may be the best opportunity.

That’s what I was trying to say sb.

I couldn’t really give a fat rats clacker if he came here or not.
Should i get help?

guys and girls,

I think that the idea of paying Woods $3mil appearance fee would be madness. Greg Norman is far better at promoting the game of golf to both new and old than Tiger has been. If I am wrong, I look forward to the argument against me.

I agree with all that Tiger is a brilliant player and conducts himself well, however he plays in probably less than half the annual tornaments that The Shark did and he certainly doesn’t appear to work hard in promoting the game, probably the opposite, I think that he avoids the media as much as possible and only does the minimum promotion as required by the PGA Tour.

So lets continue to work on the Australian talent attending our events and encouraging Norman to do as much as possible in promotions.

Golf Australia has been doing well in the last 2 years and I think that the Open back at RSGC is a great move, may the big events roll on…

ATGTT

guys and girls,

I think that the idea of paying Woods $3mil appearance fee would be madness. Greg Norman is far better at promoting the game of golf to both new and old than Tiger has been. If I am wrong, I look forward to the argument against me.

I agree with all that Tiger is a brilliant player and conducts himself well, however he plays in probably less than half the annual tornaments that The Shark did and he certainly doesn’t appear to work hard in promoting the game, probably the opposite, I think that he avoids the media as much as possible and only does the minimum promotion as required by the PGA Tour.

So lets continue to work on the Australian talent attending our events and encouraging Norman to do as much as possible in promotions.

Golf Australia has been doing well in the last 2 years and I think that the Open back at RSGC is a great move, may the big events roll on…

ATGTT

Tiger’s game is now geared around winning majors and doing enough to keep his sponsers happy. Tiger doesn’t give a rat’s arse about playing or winning in Australia. He would not give a sh1t either about the UK except we still hold one of the majors.
As for paying him as far as I see it Australia are producing some very good golfers who compete very well on the world stage. I personally don’t think you will need him promote the game in Australia. Just wait for the President’s Cup.

Gonna have to compete against China/Asia to get Tiger and we don’t have a sponsor for the Open. If we need guys from offshore, I would rather put offers out to the younger guys. Brandt Snedeker was a sensation last year, get Anthony Kim, Paul Casey likes it down here and a few of the Scandis to do a summer in Oz. Can’t be that hard to convince ‘em to leave Oslo in December.

Liked the Hogan Bridge comment, absolutely true. Anyone know IBF, someone needs to tell them the coverage is crap, and that’s before we get onto Faldo running us through his top ten stories about himself each day on the regular tour events

I think its a joke. He owes a huge amount to the game of golf and yet he only plays select events where they either pay him bucket loads or the sponsor is one of his sponsors. Compare him to Ernie and I think he is a disgrace.

I think he should be compelled to play in at least 2 USPGA events each year that he does not normally support and also compelled to travel to 3 overseas events each year on a rotational basis. He could easily plan that into his year .

I’m sick to death of listening to people rave about what he has done for the sport. Lets remember what the sport has done for him.