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Hope so. Now cue the Cabbageman.

Hope so. Now cue the Cabbageman.

Cabbageman [garbageman] , SMS316 , or one of the many aliases you have had on Australian golf forums that you still frequent or have been banned from, please reply Shaun.

Tipping the USGA will stay with the proposed ban of anchoring for the good of the game. It is the right thing to do.

There’s nothing “right” about it, Raz.

It’s going to adversely affect a large number of amateurs, but only a few touring pros.

The ‘spirit of the game’ has allowed players to swing their clubs by any method they can conjure up, provided their swing line doesn’t go between the feet. Now they’re trying to specify how the club is to be gripped, or not gripped. What’s next?

Banning side saddle ;)

They use an anchored long putter because they couldn’t survive using a traditional short putter.

Would be ridiculous if it ends up effectively being banned for amateurs (for whom there is a good argument that anything that makes the game more fun for people should be okay) but permitted for professionals.

Banning side saddle ;)

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I like to be ‘different’, TB.

Would be ridiculous if it ends up effectively being banned for amateurs (for whom there is a good argument that anything that makes the game more fun for people should be okay) but permitted for professionals.

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That is a likely outcome Deege.

So nothing that makes the game more fun should be banned from the game?
I hardly think that is either a logical or sensible idea.
Let us hope that whatever decision the rules makers come up with , that the PGA will not decide to get their own way by using a big stick. That will not lead to growing the game. Or even keeping it at the level it is now.
I do not see this rule being reversed for pros & not for the rest of the golfing community either.

I hope the USGA and R&A tell the prima donnas to get on and learn to putt without anchoring.

There are plenty of alternative ways to hold a putter (claw grip, cross handed etc). I’m sure Tim Clark can find a way that doesn’t impede his “wrist condition”. A condition that seems to have no affect on the rest of his game.

I hope the USGA and R&A tell the prima donnas to get on and learn to putt without anchoring.

There are plenty of alternative ways to hold a putter (claw grip, cross handed etc). I’m sure Tim Clark can find a way that doesn’t impede his “wrist condition”. A condition that seems to have no affect on the rest of his game.

Nine out of ten people believe that out of ten people, one person will always disagree with the other nine!

Yeah i thought the wrist condition a strange argument… There’s nearly no wrists involved with a putting stroke and if it’s to do with his grip then as mentioned there are countless alternatives to try.

Go the Finch!! Stick it to em mate.

If ‘easier for amateurs’ is a driver for rule choices then they should reverse the MOI, driver head size and ball rules.

If you are going to try golf and then drop it because it is too difficult nothing will change that. Getting to use an anchored putting strike won’t make it easy.

How dumb did Johnny Miller sound when sitting next to Tim Finchem today? There is still NO evidence that anchoring makes the putting stroke easier or provides an advantage. The USGA / R & A made it clear that that is the case when announcing the 2016 changes.

I like what Finchem is saying. A voice of common sense in a sea of extreme arguments. Go the Finch!! Stick it to em mate.

I think that what he is saying is truly dangerous. For its whole history, the PGA tour has agreed to accept the rules as handed down by the USGA and the R&A. There have been some occasions where they have made particular rules for the tour (like the one ball rule) but those have been sensible measures which most people don’t see as massively changing the game.

So now, they have decided they want to take on rule-making as well? Good luck to them.

How dumb did Johnny Miller sound when sitting next to Tim Finchem today? There is still NO evidence that anchoring makes the putting stroke easier or provides an advantage. The USGA / R & A made it clear that that is the case when announcing the 2016 changes.

I like what Finchem is saying. A voice of common sense in a sea of extreme arguments. Go the Finch!! Stick it to em mate.

Well worded argument that. Saying it is no advantage is correct for those who are good putters.

Why would someone use an anchored putter if it didn’t improve their performance? It is clearly obvious that anchoring significantly assists some people but not others.

Now TTR, please, just once, give me a reason why anchoring should remain? What positive influence does it have on the game?

I got the impression that the argument for anchoring is based on it being permitted for 30+ years without proving an to be an advantage over non anchoring. Miller made the point that anchoring has an advantage in keeping the shaft of the putter on plane, particularly with players who can’t do this with a conventional putter.
The R&A and USGA regulated putter grips and banned a very popular grip that narrowed towards the butt with a butt stop. This grip was deemed to help players by allowing them to set the last two fingers of the top hand in such a way that gave them an advantage over players that had a uniform grip on the putter.
The argument is about advantage – does anchoring give an advantage? The answer is yes it does because everything in the golf swing including putting is about plane.:-)

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How dumb did Johnny Miller sound when sitting next to Tim Finchem today? There is still NO evidence that anchoring makes the putting stroke easier or provides an advantage. The USGA / R & A made it clear that that is the case when announcing the 2016 changes.

I like what Finchem is saying. A voice of common sense in a sea of extreme arguments. Go the Finch!! Stick it to em mate.

Well worded argument that. Saying it is no advantage is correct for those who are good putters.

Why would someone use an anchored putter if it didn’t improve their performance? It is clearly obvious that anchoring significantly assists some people but not others.

Now TTR, please, just once, give me a reason why anchoring should remain? What positive influence does it have on the game?

Anchoring is cheating.

So many rhetorical questions there SMS. There’s no point in trying to have a sensible debate with you on this one. Your thread back at Ozgolf is testament to the fanatical resistance you have to long putters; to the point of abuse and personal insults.

The argument is about advantage – does anchoring give an advantage? The answer is yes it does because everything in the golf swing including putting is about plane.:-)

The man who hits at the ball rather than through it has no sense of rhythm.
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There is no evidence that it does. Just the opinion of some based on circumstantial observations; ie. some golfers have moved to the long putter. Equally some golfers have tried it and not liked it. The R & A / GA have been clear that there is no evidence that anchoring gives an advantage. But so many still go on with their unsupported opinions. Then there are the ones who resort to direct insults.

Just to be clear, the R & A / GA have have said that there is no evidence that anchoring gives an advantage. The rule change is about defining what they consider constitutes a ‘stroke’, not to address a supposed advantage.

... and I use a short putter.

The R&A and USGA has stated their concern about players that start playing with the anchored putter. These are the players who have the advantage over their counterparts who start with a conventional putter.

How dumb did Johnny Miller sound when sitting next to Tim Finchem today? There is still NO evidence that anchoring makes the putting stroke easier or provides an advantage. The USGA / R & A made it clear that that is the case when announcing the 2016 changes.

I like what Finchem is saying. A voice of common sense in a sea of extreme arguments. Go the Finch!! Stick it to em mate.

Well worded argument that. Saying it is no advantage is correct for those who are good putters.

Why would someone use an anchored putter if it didn’t improve their performance? It is clearly obvious that anchoring significantly assists some people but not others.

Now TTR, please, just once, give me a reason why anchoring should remain? What positive influence does it have on the game?

Anchoring is cheating.

So many rhetorical questions there SMS. There’s no point in trying to have a sensible debate with you on this one. Your thread back at Ozgolf is testament to the fanatical resistance you have to long putters; to the point of abuse and personal insults.

Really? I think that you will find that the personal abuse in that thread is directed towards me. Any modding done suggests that.

Anyway, poor form to be discussing OZgolf here.

These are the players who have the advantage over their counterparts who start with a conventional putter.

The man who hits at the ball rather than through it has no sense of rhythm.
Secrets of the Master – The Best of Bobby Jones

Again, there is no evidence to support that proposition and the governing bodies haven’t tried to assert that there is an advantage by anchoring the long putter. There is plenty of opinion in golf land but no evidence.

Thanks for the debate Raz. I might check out of this for a little while. I expect the arguments based on insult might be about to arrive.