You can only manipulate you handicap by 4 shots at the most over 12 months because of the anchor which has taken away extreme cheating or manipulation.

He presumably is happy to play crap all year paying his entry fee to enable himself to “peak” for this event each year. That is a lot of crap play for 2 good rounds a year.

Play it as it lies, get on with it, its not life or death, its just a game!

Shanks

I would note the comments re 4 Ball events….........

I have to watch 2 of these type, it is amazing how they can play crap golf but come to 4 Ball there is suddenly a turn around and then strangely back to crap golf….

If skilled at the art they bank their rounds until something comes up they might like to try and win…... If you have had 20 rounds playing say 6 shots above ones handicap and then slip in a good’un strangely enough ones handicap doesn’t get effected….. Back to playing lay down golf until the next event and hopefully do enough banking between now and then…...

It does happen sadly…..
Example a pair from a club qualified for the next round of a 4 Ball contest. Player A has the opportunity to visit the course where the next round is to be held a week before the event. After 9 holes he is under par, strangely half way through back nine he has knocked 3 balls in a row OOB’s and ends up NCRing…......... Sadly he did this in the that Clubs open day and they were spewing….
Karma did come to bite him as he in his partner failed miserably on the big day and had no hope of progressing…...

You can only manipulate you handicap by 4 shots at the most over 12 months because of the anchor which has taken away extreme cheating or manipulation.

He presumably is happy to play crap all year paying his entry fee to enable himself to “peak” for this event each year. That is a lot of crap play for 2 good rounds a year.

Play it as it lies, get on with it, its not life or death, its just a game!

.....sadly, he’s been known to win a few 4-balls as well….has also got his name on the club honour board twice winning the 4-ball match play knockout …
As peg has stated….these guys are out there….absolutely no shame. In club comps he plays a 5 iron from 170 out….obviously ALWAYS comes up short….in the big open event when 170 out he hits a hybrid onto the green. He actually birdied the 1st on the 1st day of the open….which, in stableford, would have been 3 for 5.

As the history of this said individual grows it would appear he is manipulating his handicap. Very sad individual ruining it for everybody else and diminishing your club in the eyes of visitors to your open competition.

Very hard to undo what has been done but Golf Australia has provision to treat these manipulators via the club handicap committee. It does take a certain amount of gumption for this committee to actually do something which would likely come from a member revolt which would create a very unhappy club atmosphere.

People like this do not deserve to play this great game.

As the history of this said individual grows it would appear he is manipulating his handicap. Very sad individual ruining it for everybody else and diminishing your club in the eyes of visitors to your open competition.

Very hard to undo what has been done but Golf Australia has provision to treat these manipulators via the club handicap committee. It does take a certain amount of gumption for this committee to actually do something which would likely come from a member revolt which would create a very unhappy club atmosphere.

People like this do not deserve to play this great game.

Play it as it lies, get on with it, its not life or death, its just a game!

And Shanks that is where the problem lies…..........

It just sounds stupid that someone would do that. If he’s playing a lot of golf surely his aim would be to get his HC as low as possible. Maybe it’s just me but the completion in golf is more with yourself than others. Just my 2 cents worth.

It just sounds stupid that someone would do that. If he’s playing a lot of golf surely his aim would be to get his HC as low as possible. Maybe it’s just me but the completion in golf is more with yourself than others. Just my 2 cents worth.

That is what the majority of golfers aim to do….... But as today’s news has shown some will go to extraordinary lengths to win….

Some people like to big note themselves & win the Big prizes Wal.

may i ask for my own interest how old this guy is?

i ask because most of the most blatant cheats i’ve ever played with were basically in the 60’s or 70’s, almost as if they were trying to stock up the trophy cabinet before they die because they weren’t good at anything when they were young, haha! true story

One question? Does he support Essendon footy club???

Can actually score better duffing it short to the front of greens in Competion off huge handicaps.Still thirteen over par.

Appreciate all the comments guys…the club really is in a quandary over this…..always easy in hindsight but maybe he should have been spoken to by the committee last year.
Seriously, I have never seen such animosity in a club before over this sort of thing. A guy who plays (change that to “played”) with this bloke regularly has said he’s very good at making sure he always comes in about 3 shots over his handicap in most club comps.
As has been said here…he has to be given the benefit of the doubt…suck it up…..and see what happens in the next few months.

Consultancy….if you’re not part of the solution, there’s big bucks to be made prolonging the problem.

I had experience with a similar type of member some years back. Under the old system would always shoot 32 or 33 pts on the odd occasion that he played single events unless it was a big event. played off 16 when should have been on 8 or 9. He would however be in the top 3 in nearly every ambrose, major fourball or foursomes event.

we put 2 things in place. Firstly we ruled that in major events you had to have played at least 5 individual events in the past 3 months. That eliminated a few players who would sit back and wait for the big trophies but this bloke just made sure he just met those criteria without busting

so we sent him a letter , very carefully written so as to not be libelous, stating that in our observations he appeared to be unable to attend when singles events were occurring so we “invited” him to play off 12 as it was obvious that his other commitments were hindering his ability to get his handicap to a fair mark. That worked well.

may i ask for my own interest how old this guy is?

i ask because most of the most blatant cheats i’ve ever played with were basically in the 60’s or 70’s, almost as if they were trying to stock up the trophy cabinet before they die because they weren’t good at anything when they were young, haha! true story

spot on ingy…...in the high side of that bracket

Agree totally with Wal. The game is against yourself. Prizes are nice but if your manipulating your HC to simply win prizes then you cant enjoy the sport that much.

I agree with some of the commentators – what a crappy way to get enjoyment out of your golf – holding yourself back so you have mediocre rounds week after week and then a couple of good úns so that you can get up on the board. I’d give the game away well before I made it onto any board.

Part of me thinks that if you want it that bad, then have it – getting your name on a silly board in a club that nobody outside will ever care about and in a way that everyone inside the club will resent and dislike you for is not worth it – a sign of real emotional messedupedness in my view.

I can’t wait to what happens when someone shoots 46+ points in an OOM…....

I can’t wait to what happens when someone shoots 46+ points in an OOM…….

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It will probably be you Mick…........I will be laughing in the back ground.

I can’t wait to what happens when someone shoots 46+ points in an OOM…….

http://www.golflink.com.au/...

Well I’ll be hitting par off the stick to do it… so nope… can’t see it happening from me. You? Well roll in a 94 off the stick and you’ve done it… GPJ will be ecstatic.

I don’t think I could do it now the handicapper has caught up with me

I can’t wait to what happens when someone shoots 46+ points in an OOM…….

http://www.golflink.com.au/...

Well I’ll be hitting par off the stick to do it… so nope… can’t see it happening from me. You? Well roll in a 94 off the stick and you’ve done it… GPJ will be ecstatic.

OOMBET 2013 is coming… Buckle Up!

Smoldy… Checking you in to the Smackdown Hotel.

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BMAN HOT favourite

I can’t wait to what happens when someone shoots 46+ points in an OOM…….

http://www.golflink.com.au/...

Well I’ll be hitting par off the stick to do it… so nope… can’t see it happening from me. You? Well roll in a 94 off the stick and you’ve done it… GPJ will be ecstatic.

OOMBET 2013 is coming… Buckle Up!

Smoldy… Checking you in to the Smackdown Hotel.

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http://www.golflink.com.au/...

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Never argue with an idiot they will bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.

Nope… I’ve got a few others ahead of him GT. OOMBET looks at the likelihood of someone hitting 40pts… At SL, just can’t see BMan keeping it out of the penal rough enough. Accuracy is a premium over length at this track..

Still not enough real evidence team, maybe he practices a lot before the big tournament.
If the Club are convinced he is deliberately ‘farming’ his handicap, why doesn’t someone have a diplomatic word to this chap and bring it to his attention that there are many eyes watching him.
I presume he also has regular golf mates, maybe a quiet word in their ear.
At the end of the day, a burglar is a burglar and if this is the case here, I would suggest the tournament committee decline his entry. There are a few ways this can be done with no comeback.

I can’t wait to what happens when someone shoots 46+ points in an OOM…….

http://www.golflink.com.au/...

Well I’ll be hitting par off the stick to do it… so nope… can’t see it happening from me. You? Well roll in a 94 off the stick and you’ve done it… GPJ will be ecstatic.

OOMBET 2013 is coming… Buckle Up!

Smoldy… Checking you in to the Smackdown Hotel.

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http://www.golflink.com.au/...

Especially if he has 44 Pts… :D