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That’s piss funny Raz
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+1 for blaming the pro golf on tv…..lots of golf to watch and then the amateur dick heads take it onto their own course thinking this is how the game is played. Marking a ball on the green when its a 2 ft tap in is the most frustrating for me, closely followed by deliberating for an eternity over club selection…and then missing the green anyway. I agree with a post on a different thread about the time limit for searching for a ball….2 or 3 minutes is plenty of time….I’m one for playing the provisional ball in play rather than trying to hack out of the bush. If my ball is not clearly visible within a minute…I’m outta there.
Consultancy….if you’re not part of the solution, there’s big bucks to be made prolonging the problem. |
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While watching the television coverage of the Ladies Masters last weekend @ Royal Pines, one of the commentators was applauding the way one of the players, who had missed a green by a fair margin, walked all the way from her ball to the pin and then back again before deliberating about what shot she might play. Very professional was the comment. Unfortunately, this sort of behaviour is mimicked by the weekend warriors and contributes to the pace of play concerns expressed here. Until courses and clubs get serious about this issue, more and more players will consider their options. Putting slow players “on the clock” with marshalls policing the pace of play needs to become commonplace if anything is going to change.
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Our group (about 40 players) played at Heritage today and took us 4 hours 50 mins. Waited on every tee and every second shot. We played Stableford. First group got around in 4 hours and finished 3 to 4 holes ahead of the second group. I was in the third group so the obvious problem was the second group. The second group was given the hurry up a few times from us but we saw no course marshalls the entire time. A couple of guys walked / drove off after 12 holes because it was taking too long and they had to get to work. One of the guys in the second group is renowned for being slow and should be put at the end of the field every week. Almost 5 hours to play Stableford, Midweek, with hardly anyone else on the course is a joke. I am not one to ‘race’ around a course, but having to wait on every tee box and for every second shot on every hole should not happen, period. Ignorant and selfish pricks IMO.
The only way to find out a man’s true character is see how he reacts when a shanked ball is coming at him. |
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At least you were in one of the first groups, Shrek. We were in group 7 and by the time we got in it was 5 hours and 40 min. I was VERY over it by the end and my back 9 holes reflected it. We did have one of the other slower players in our group though.
9/10/12 – Hole In One – 7th Hole Portsea GC |
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WOW 5h 40 isn’t golf; it’s torture. You have my sympathy.
This space for rent. |
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Thanks mate..
9/10/12 – Hole In One – 7th Hole Portsea GC |
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Wow, that is sh*tfull Frank!!! The President has already been informed and it will be raised again at Keysborough.
The only way to find out a man’s true character is see how he reacts when a shanked ball is coming at him. |
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The Captain was in the last group and he wasn’t overly pleased. I’ll leave it to the Committee…....I’m sure you guys will sort something out. It should be interesting when we play St. Johns??
9/10/12 – Hole In One – 7th Hole Portsea GC |
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I recently came up with a half arsed idea for my club…...some par rounds here take 5 hours FFS!!!
Consultancy….if you’re not part of the solution, there’s big bucks to be made prolonging the problem. |
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So now would not be a good time to tell ya that MM round took 3hrs 40mins with a lunch break…........
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I bet he wasn’t. Hopefully it gets sorted. The slow pricks just can’t be told – that’s the main problem. They don’t think they are SLOW.
The only way to find out a man’s true character is see how he reacts when a shanked ball is coming at him. |
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educating can start from the golfer itself by helping his/her fellow golfer out. why not if you happen to notice someone in your group that is slowing down and diplomaticlly saying fred, mate i just noticed that you placed your buggy at the far back of the green when we have to depart from the front to get to next tee fred another thing i noticed is when we joe went into the tree and was good of you to help him but 1st hit your ball and then help look for joes ball does the commitee really need to do this or could it be done by anyone anyone can educate on slow play heck i would appreciate it more if a fellow golfer helped educate me on slow play… where as it would get my back up if a fellow competitor went to the commitee dobbed me in for slow play my back is up and all i would be wanting to do is hunt the person down and educate them with my fist and probably wouldnt have taken anything on board ya know it states that the lowest marker of the group is supposedly the one to keep the group at pace however everyone in the group in my opinion needs to beware of slow play in the group and say hey guys we pushing it bit slow today we need to get a bit of a move on help our fellow golfers out and try to educate them in a being golf ready rather then just leaving it to a commitee to do it
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Hear what you are saying OZ but as I stated above it is always the same ones who do it and when spoken to about it or pointed out to them about slow play the are in total denial. They always blame others for their slow play and as I stated they swear black and blue that they are not slow. Unfortunately this day and age people take it also as a personal criticism of them and they become defensive and confrontations take place. That is why it has come to a point where the committee will need to take a stand and ultimately they will be ‘put on the clock’ and penalised if need be. Some of the guys at our club who are the worst offenders have been playing golf in comps for over 30 years. They understand their responsibilities regarding pace of play and their place in the field but they get out on the course and they couldn’t give a sh*t about anyone else. I, for one, am sick and tired of trying to rush my shots to keep the group moving because of these selfish pricks.
The only way to find out a man’s true character is see how he reacts when a shanked ball is coming at him. |
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I’l give you one example of our slow player yesterday….......he was in the bunker and ‘skinnied’ it out over the green and into a lot of rough. We had all got the green and ready to putt. He had 2 practice swings in the rough and then his real shot. He gets on the green and one of us putts out while he’s walking to the green. The other 2 would have been standing on his line so we waited for him to get to his ball as he was almost to the green by this time. He then proceeds to brush grass thistles out of his socks on the edge of the green. After about 30 seconds he walks to his ball, marks it and then surveys the line from a few areas, then 2 practice putt strokes etc…....
9/10/12 – Hole In One – 7th Hole Portsea GC |
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5 hours 40 mins….........i would have been gone 1.5 hours earlier. Guess that track is out for me when the OOM goes there, no way hosay. disclaimer: all OOM’s i’ve been to have been fairly quick days so far.
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Send me a message Frank with the players name.
The only way to find out a man’s true character is see how he reacts when a shanked ball is coming at him. |
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I agree with some of the other sentiments here – it is very difficult for players in a group to get a slow player to speed up etc., without it descending into a personal confrontation of some description. As the low marker in a group about 6 months ago, I politely asked one of the players to try and speed up a bit because not only was he being slow in all aspects of his game, he would stop for five to ten mins to fish balls out of the lakes (of which we have quite a few). Well this led to a tirade of abuse in return and my playing partners who had voiced their irritation to me did not pipe up in support. It has made me think twice about doing it again as I don’t need the aggravation. I just make mental notes of slow players and avoid them on the timesheets.
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Its a good course Deano, not one to miss imo I played it mid week a couple of years ago and it was fairly empty, still took us 4 Hrs tho, its reasonably long with a couple of long stretches between Green and Tee from memory… Some really nice holes though
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Some of the guys at our club who are the worst offenders have been playing golf in comps for over 30 years. They understand their responsibilities regarding pace of play and their place in the field but they get out on the course and they couldn’t give a sh*t about anyone else. There’s a couple of similar groups at my club as well… I find with most of them it’s no the actual play that is slow, it’s the time it takes them to get from shot to shot… I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again… In my experience that is the number one contributed to slow play. You can take all the time you want around the ball and on the green, but if you can just learn to walk up the side of the rough to your ball as you partners play behind you, it will save a LOT of time – especially if everyone does it.
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There are a two main areas to address to improve POP. 1) The players Unfortunately many little things make up each of these areas. Players need to be educated, reminded, warned, etc. This is the tough part of the equation as we can see from all the feedback in this thread. Someone has to play traffic cop! Management plays a big factor as well and does have many ways to help improve the POP and fully under their immediate control. Do any Boards out there look at the average player ability when setting up the course? Do clubs have a POP policy which includes setting up courses, green speed, rough height etc? Are courses being set up too tough for the average member to get around in a reasonable time? Are green speeds to fast for the average member? I managed a courses that have had 100k rounds per year and we found that 8-9 on stimp was the ideal pace of greens to help reduce extra putts on green. There is no easy solution but start with a plan and abide by the plan. I penned an article several years ago on this subject.
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Setting up courses for the average bloke as set out above dumbs courses down and the better golfer gets bored. Perhaps they need a few courses which have maximum handicap limits for people to be permitted to play.
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I understand what you mean, but if 90% of the players are “avg” then that is how course should be set up. You cant have every comp round playing from the tips, with brutal pin spots and expect a fast round. The difference between an acceptable and not acceptable round is say 30-60 minutes on average. So a few minutes per hole will make that deficit up. There are two situations as well. Pace and Flow. If pace is slow but flow is steady then most dont complain as you can adjust your rhythm and not feel like your waiting all the time. (like being on motorway going 50k) If pace slow and flow erratic then bad experience. (Like stop/start on a motorway) RE: max hdc limits not a bad idea- it wont work everywhere but could be possible if enough of the player demographic is available. They do it in some European countries. Ive read about a few clubs overseas that have a minimum hdc to join- they are real players clubs and the course is set to their requirements at all times. On the flip side- there are many low hdc players that are slow players and many high hdc players that are very fast. So player education and management is also part of the solution.
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It was half a pisstake, and it would be hard to see it ever being viable. What I would like to see, even if it was just once a month, would be to see the greens sped up so you could play the course and use the angles around the greens like they are designed. I consider that to be fun. The easy trade off is to play forward tees and not cut all of the pins in corners. A bit of give and take goes a long way.
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ha ha the ideas are not bad seriously I just doubt any club could even do it unless they rewrote their constitution.
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