Are they over-rated?

I saw a reputable coach half a dozen times last year. Didn’t come in a point.

Is it just me? I can understand the logic behind an initial lesson to learn grip, set up etc, but are the rest a waste of time? Unless you’re a low marker maybe?

I saw a chiropractor once too, tiwce a week for 8 weeks. Back’s still r00ted.

I’m lucky to get find hour for the lesson and the 5-6 hours for a round once a week. Can’t practice hours and hours.

Maybe each to their own? Be interested to hear other experiences.

Depends I think.

I had lessons as a beginner because I didn’t want to go down a completely wrong path and have to re-learn when things went tits up. After that I think it depends on what type of person you are

Some people want to have lessons and do drills that correct or improve things without getting too much into why the drills will “fix” their swing.

Others want know what causes their wonky ball flight and prefer to fix their own swing path and face alignment etc, with the odd lesson here and there.

Either or.

If you know everything , they re an absolute waste of time, period

If you don’t have time to practice you will gain little. It’s like anything, you get out what you put in.

I don’t understand your logic that lessons are more important for low markers? There is a reason they’re off a low handicap.

Are they over-rated?

I saw a reputable coach half a dozen times last year. Didn’t come in a point.

if it was as easy as just seeing a reputable coach 6 times a year to drop handicaps everyone would be doing it.
did you make changes?
did you practice?
what did you expect?

If you don’t have time to practice you will gain little. It’s like anything, you get out what you put in.

I don’t understand your logic that lessons are more important for low markers? There is a reason they’re off a low handicap.

Agreed, especially about the low markers

Simon, you have to make time to practice bud. No 2 ways about it. Try and squeeze at least 1 range session in a week, or bash 9 holes in.

Are you playing much?

If you don’t have time to practice you will gain little. It’s like anything, you get out what you put in.

I don’t understand your logic that lessons are more important for low markers? There is a reason they’re off a low handicap.

SYS – I think your theory holds true with or without lessons. Just assuming there might be more fine tuning involved the better you are? Harder to get from 5 to 1 than from 20 to 15. Fair point though. I’m not after a right or wrong answer, just interested in other people’s experiences.

The thing about golf is that the correct action goes against our natural instinct. By correct action I mean efficient (greatest output for the least effort) and safety (less prone to injury). Unless somebody shows us the correct fundamentals, how do we learn the right way? The golf swing has been a mystery to the majority of players (pros included) from the very beginning, nobody has mastered it. It’s a “catch22” – we are damned if we do and damned if we don’t.
Watching vids of swings is fine for learning tempo, not so good for learning the fundaments, because the camera lens only catches movements that happen and which are caused by movements hidden from the lens. The only way to learn the fundamentals is by feel and instruction and constant practice until they become mechanical. Usually one or two fundamentals at any one time. That is if one wishes to get as much out of the game to his/her abilities.
It is an extremely difficult game to learn and to maintain. Every low marker has paid the price in time and effort to reach their current level and to stay at that level.

Trevino says if you’re a mechanical guy who just stands at 150 out and hits the club that goes 150 you need lessons.

If you’re a feel player and know you have options you never need lessons.

It sounds like you dont need them though. Why have them if you cant develop them.
Ever tried to learn guitar, chinese? etc. No practice means you are stuffed.
.

If you don’t have time to practice you will gain little. It’s like anything, you get out what you put in.

I don’t understand your logic that lessons are more important for low markers? There is a reason they’re off a low handicap.

Agreed, especially about the low markers

Simon, you have to make time to practice bud. No 2 ways about it. Try and squeeze at least 1 range session in a week, or bash 9 holes in.

Are you playing much?

2011 C Grade Champion Vic ISG Round #4 OOM Keysborough Golf Club
2012 B Grade Champion Paterson River ISG OOM Round #3
2012 ISG Matchplay Champion

http://www.golflink.com.au/...

I’m playing once a week mate. And I probably have one range session a week too. It’s just when I think back, I can only really attribute my grip and set up to anything I learnt via a lesson.

I think 2putts summed it up with ‘either or’. Just curious as to other’s opinions.

Are they over-rated?

I saw a reputable coach half a dozen times last year. Didn’t come in a point.

if it was as easy as just seeing a reputable coach 6 times a year to drop handicaps everyone would be doing it.
did you make changes?
did you practice?
what did you expect?

If i was to start smoking
i think they would be oh i don’t know..
Vanilla flavored i reckon

Good questions. I’ll say yes, yes, and to get better.

To be honest, I’ll say I have gotten better in terms of consistency. Not as many blow out, nightmare rounds. I’ve had success at other sports with minimal effort. Maybe I’m just shiit at golf? The evidence is overwhelming.

Are they over-rated?

I saw a reputable coach half a dozen times last year. Didn’t come in a point.

if it was as easy as just seeing a reputable coach 6 times a year to drop handicaps everyone would be doing it.
did you make changes?
did you practice?
what did you expect?

If i was to start smoking
i think they would be oh i don’t know..
Vanilla flavored i reckon

Good questions. I’ll say yes, yes, and to get better.

To be honest, I’ll say I have gotten better in terms of consistency. Not as many blow out, nightmare rounds. I’ve had success at other sports with minimal effort. Maybe I’m just shiit at golf? The evidence is overwhelming.

all good
keep applying your self i reckon

Just had my first lesson last week after playing about 9 months and being a club member with HC about 5. Worked my way down from 36 HC to 24. Played my first rnd after lesson today and was the worst score I’ve had since well before Xmas. In saying that my ball striking when hit well felt real nice. I’m sticking with the advice I received and hopefully in a month or so ill see improvements. I guess it’s like what others say you get out what you put in. Time will tell for me

Just had my first lesson last week after playing about 9 months and being a club member with HC about 5. Worked my way down from 36 HC to 24. Played my first rnd after lesson today and was the worst score I’ve had since well before Xmas. In saying that my ball striking when hit well felt real nice. I’m sticking with the advice I received and hopefully in a month or so ill see improvements. I guess it’s like what others say you get out what you put in. Time will tell for me

I think the first 6 months after a change of swing suck. And that’s if you keep working at it.

Paul Hart says it takes 6 years to remove a fault….......

Keep at it.

I saw a reputable coach half a dozen times last year. Didn’t come in a point.

What did you learn from your lessons? What are the weaknesses in your swing? What were you left to work on after your last lesson?

If you had 6 lessons, worked once a week on whatever was identified in your lesson, played once a week and stuck with your changes, and yet didn’t improve your handicap at all then I’d say something didn’t work about your student/teacher relationship.

If you don’t have time to practice you will gain little. It’s like anything, you get out what you put in.

I don’t understand your logic that lessons are more important for low markers? There is a reason they’re off a low handicap.

SYS – I think your theory holds true with or without lessons. Just assuming there might be more fine tuning involved the better you are? Harder to get from 5 to 1 than from 20 to 15. Fair point though. I’m not after a right or wrong answer, just interested in other people’s experiences.

In that case I will give my experience. I’ve had lessons my whole life from when I started off a 27 handicap untill I got to a plus handicap. I don’t have lessons anymore as I’ve learnt a lot over the years about my own technique. As a low handicapper there isn’t really much technical fine tuning involved. Just keeping an eye on the basics like posture, alignment and ball position. The rest seems to fall into place. More importantly good consistant practice. Most of which needs to be from 100m in.

So unless you are off a low handicap I would say lessons will definatly benefit. But only if you have the time to practice at least 2-3 times a week.