This story just out-

“Vijay Singh, long lauded for his longevity and tireless work ethic, admitted to using a banned substance in an article in this week’s Sports Illustrated.

The SI story is centered on the company S.W.A.T.S. – Sports with Alternatives to Steroids – which sells such products as deer antler spray and hologram chips to help athletes maximize their performance. Linebacker Ray Lewis was among the players mentioned in the report.”

Full story here

Do you think it really helps?

once a cheater, always a cheater?

does sound like he had no idea that it was banned though, otherwise he wouldn’t have admitted it so openly!

Agreed. He wouldn’t be the only tour player using the spay either. Reading the wiki article, there seems to be some doubt that deer antler spray contains the banned substance. The claim seems to be based on the fact that deer antlers grow and mature in such a short time. The spray is readily available to everybody which is unusual if it contained a banned hormonal substance.

Agreed. He wouldn’t be the only tour player using the spay either. Reading the wiki article, there seems to be some doubt that deer antler spray contains the banned substance. The claim seems to be based on the fact that deer antlers grow and mature in such a short time. The spray is readily available to everybody which is unusual if it contained a banned hormonal substance.

The man who hits at the ball rather than through it has no sense of rhythm.
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even if it’s banned by WADA, doesn’t mean you can’t buy it off the shelves, there’s plenty of things that are on the list that you might find in your medicine drawer…

think we should load up?

Hell yes. It may be the answer to my knee issues.:)

Hell yes. It may be the answer to my knee issues.:)

The man who hits at the ball rather than through it has no sense of rhythm.
Secrets of the Master – The Best of Bobby Jones

+1 my back and shoulder!

Where did you say it was for sale?

http://www.nutronicslabs.co...

lower back for me…

I can imagine what the discussion will be like between Vijay and the PGA Board.

I can imagine what the discussion will be like between Vijay and the PGA Board.

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First time in golf – what do we think penalty will look like? It’s been too long since his “cheating” fiasco for them to affect the judgement one would have thought… but wouldn’t be surprised to see a retirement notice come from Vijay…

Storm in a tea cup IMO. No one else hit the ball for Vijay.

Storm in a tea cup IMO. No one else hit the ball for Vijay.

no one rode the bike for lance or ran for marion either… whether anyone else hit the ball for vijay is irrelevant.

As a golfer you know how hard it would be to back up 72 holes plus practice week in week out. He’s renowned for a work ethic that has him practicing harder than anyone else, if this is supported by using something that is banned and is seen to be performance enhancing, then he’s no different to a cyclist on the gear (even though intent is a consideration – but the outcome is the same)

Hell yes. It may be the answer to my knee issues.:)

The man who hits at the ball rather than through it has no sense of rhythm.
Secrets of the Master – The Best of Bobby Jones

+1 my back and shoulder!

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and I have a scoring problem :-)

Storm in a tea cup IMO. No one else hit the ball for Vijay.

Double standards compared to lance. If i remember correctly you were quite annoyed by lance’s antics. If that was you…

Storm in a tea cup IMO. No one else hit the ball for Vijay.

Double standards compared to lance. If i remember correctly you were quite annoyed by lance’s antics. If that was you…

In the bag:
TM R11 – AVIXcore black
TM RBZ tour 3
TM 18 degree
Mizuno MP-68 3-PW
Titleist Vokey 52, 56 & 60
TM penta / pro V1

May have been a different geek?;)

Storm in a tea cup IMO. No one else hit the ball for Vijay.

Double standards compared to lance. If i remember correctly you were quite annoyed by lance’s antics. If that was you…

In the bag:
TM R11 – AVIXcore black
TM RBZ tour 3
TM 18 degree
Mizuno MP-68 3-PW
Titleist Vokey 52, 56 & 60
TM penta / pro V1

Nope. Not guilty. Someone else.

no comparison between VJ and Lance
something comes to mind about admitting on one hand and on the other years of denial combined with attacking those that accused him?

He uses a long putter. No morals.

Lance uses a long putter now?

Bastard.

You know he would. Handy golfer by all accounts. Only carries one ball.

Wears cargo shorts with white belt as well.

Only carries one ball.

Anchoring is cheating.

Some would question the veracity of that claim…..who are you trying to impress?

Wears cargo shorts with white belts as well.

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Bastard.

Most research that floats across my desk (I’m a drug and alcohol counselor) suggests about 10% of the population use illicit drugs – give or take a % point or two across different cultures

drugs hold no social boundaries – lawyers use doctors use

rich people use …poor people use too

truckies use, young people use …yep there would be polilies using also

so yeah golfers would be using

My general question – Was it intentional or not?

Have they been using it not knowing it was banned?

If not intentional then they stop, maybe get a warning for not knowing (bit should have) and move on. Happens again then raise the bar in penalty.

If it is intentional then nail them to the wall.